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16:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 64
17:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 32
18:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 16
19:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 8
20:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 4:1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +PAH vs. CLG.EU
Bans:
Anivia Nautilus
Shen Urgot
Ahri Morgana
Picks:
Karthus Maokai / Graves
Corki / Blitzcrank Alistar / Riven
Lee Sin / Nocturne Orianna
21:00 GMT (+00:00) – BYOC Qualification: Round Of 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.EU vs. [M]
Bans:
Graves Alistar
Ahri Urgot
Shen Kog'Maw
Picks:
Nautilus Anivia / Taric
Karthus / Leona Maokai / Corki
Tristana / Malphite Darius
BYOC Bracket
BYOC Top 4
+ Show Spoiler +PAH, CLG.EU, Millenium, Mebdi's Minions
Sunday, Jun 17 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Group A:
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Group B:
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08:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 1, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Curse.EU vs. FnaticRC
Bans:
Twisted Fate Kayle
Kassadin Ahri
Nocturne Shen
Picks:
Urgot Nautilus / Taric
Soraka / Karthus Anivia / Ashe
Maokai / Irelia Nidalee
09:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 1, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +PAH vs. [M]
Bans:
Singed Morgana
Nautilus Urgot
Ahri Nocturne
Picks:
Shen Karthus / Maokai
Graves / Anivia Taric / Vayne
Janna / Yorick Warwick
10:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 2, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Curse.EU vs. PAH
Bans:
Karthus Urgot
Shen Ahri
Nocturne Nautilus
Picks:
Graves Jax / Lulu
Taric / Morgana Anivia / Corki
Malphite / Kayle Yorick
11:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 2, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +FnaticRC vs. [M]
Bans:
Karthus Kennen
Vladimir Twisted Fate
Urgot Nautilus
Picks:
Shen Graves / Taric
Janna / Tristana Cassiopeia / Maokai
Ahri / Irelia Singed
12:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 3, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +FnaticRC vs. PAH
Bans:
Blitzcrank Twisted Fate
Nautilus Ahri
Karthus Shen
Picks:
Maokai Morgana / Urgot
Soraka / Graves Taric / Yorick
Jax / Anivia Nocturne
13:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group A Round 3, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Curse.EU vs. [M]
Bans:
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Picks:
Blue Pick Purple Pick//Pick
Blue Pick//Pick Purple Pick//Pick
Blue Pick//Pick Purple Pick
15:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B Round 1, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.EU vs. Mebdi
Bans:
Ahri Anivia
Yorick Shen
Morgana Urgot
Picks:
Nautilus Ashe / Janna
Kog'Maw / Soraka Jarvan IV / Udyr
Irelia / Karthus Ryze
16:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B Round 1, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +M5 vs. Absolute Legends
Bans:
Nocturne Corki
Nautilus Urgot
Cassiopeia Ashe
Picks:
Shen Irelia / Karthus
Twisted Fate / Nunu Taric / Graves
Kog'Maw / Lee Sin Olaf
17:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B Round 2, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.EU vs. Absolute Legends
Bans:
Udyr Teemo
Nocturne Veigar
Graves Vayne
Picks:
Nautilus Shen / Karthus
Soraka / Tristana Corki / Leona
Ahri / Irelia Jax
18:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B Round 2, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +M5 vs. Mebdi's Minins
Bans:
Nautilus Lee Sin
Ahri Karthus
Nocturne Urgot
Picks:
Shen Alistar / Corki
Twisted Fate / Nunu Lulu / Singed
Miss Fortune / Irelia Shaco
19:00 GMT (+00:00) - Group B Round 3, Match 1
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +CLG.EU vs. M5
Bans:
Nocturne Nautilus
Darius Urgot
Shen Maokai
Picks:
Alistar Karthus / Lee Sin
Tristana / Irelia Nunu / Corki
Aniva / Soraka Vladimir
20:00 GMT (+00:00) - Groub B Round 3, Match 2
+ Show Spoiler [Bans and Picks] +Blue Team vs. Purple Team
Bans:
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Blue Ban Purple Ban
Picks:
Blue Pick Purple Pick//Pick
Blue Pick//Pick Purple Pick//Pick
Blue Pick//Pick Purple Pick
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Match ResultsCurse.EU - FnaticRC [M] - PAHPAH - Curse.EU [M] - FnaticRCPAH - FnaticRCCurse.EU - [M] CLG.EU - MM M5 - AL CLG.EU - AL MM - M5AL - MM CLG.EU - M5 Group A+ Show Spoiler +1. Curse.EU 3-0
2. FnaticRC 2-1
3. PAH 1-2
4. [M] 0-3
Curse.EU and FnaticRC move on to the semifinals!
1. CLG.EU 3-0
2. M5 2-1
3. AL 1-2
4. MM 0-3
CLG.EU and M5 move on to the semifinals!
Monday, Jun 18 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
08:00 GMT (+00:00) - Semi-Final 1
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11:00 GMT (+00:00) - Semi-Final 2
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14:00 GMT (+00:00) - Championship Match
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VODs
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because they didn't qualify?
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nice, i am actually on vacation this upcoming week so I can watch some DH on monday ^.^
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On June 16 2012 05:38 Vaporized wrote:
why no US teams?
All the US teams are at GESL right now.
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On June 16 2012 06:17 overt wrote:All the US teams are at GESL right now.
thanks sir
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There isn't a lot of information around for this, considering it must be starting fairly soon.
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JBright, gonna be in the IRC for this? I'll be up.
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Redemption tournament for CLG.eu. Maybe.
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This seems like something I'd like to watch, however I cant for my life see when it will start?
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strange that its sa-mo instead of fr-su but whatever if the finals are promising to be good i might take monday off of university^^ although at the time of the granfinals i should be homeanyways. gogo m5 and clg.eu
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wait a few minutes ago this page told me it started in like an hour.
now it says it's in 30 hours. what's going on
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On June 16 2012 19:06 Pippah wrote:
This seems like something I'd like to watch, however I cant for my life see when it will start?
19:00 CEST for LoL, it's in the head post ;o.
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I wonder why there starting the LoL tournament so late. Yes its the open qualifier but with the lenght of matches there easily going to be at it untill 1am and then the next day it starts again 9 hours later. Kinda harsh considering they could just start the open before 4pm Oo
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Im here to watch froggen annihilate the BYOC qualification and then take the tourney
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On June 16 2012 21:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
Im here to watch froggen annihilate the BYOC qualification and then take the tourney
As strong Wickd and the rest of clg.eu are super skilled players it's currently really "Froggen and the Boyz" instead of Clg.eu 
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Krepo gonna carry this. :D
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On June 16 2012 18:08 1ntrigue wrote:
Redemption tournament for CLG.eu. Maybe.
Why for CLG.eu and not Curse.eu who did considerably worse than CLG while being on similar level online.
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when does it start? everything else is running except for lol.
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1 1/2 hours from now, 19 CEST
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CLG seems to start playing now.
Snoopeh even streaming: http://clgaming.net/snoopeh/
Its only BYOC against amateur teams though, not much to expect there.
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Oooh I will be watching some of this!
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Man it's so god damned crowded around CLG's computers...wish I brought a bloody camera!
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Some guy got caught cheating. wtf xD
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The schedule in the OP may be off since the DH stream says that the BYOC semis and finals will be starting in around an hour. It would be great if someone who's at DH can update us on the status of the tournament.
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Ugh. Edit post again.
This link is how I get to the BYOC bracket. I can find the info and teams from the link in the OP, but not the bracket for some reason. Maybe I'm just dumb and can't find it in the OP's links.
Edit 1 billion: OP removed the link that confused me, the link still in the OP works great now, thanks!
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On June 17 2012 01:19 Sqq wrote:
Some guy got caught cheating. wtf xD
Hm? Story?
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On June 17 2012 01:41 r.Evo wrote:Hm? Story?
From what I heard on Snoopie's Stream, he was using a mod to the game file to let him zoom out the screen to 2-3x the normal distance. Something about champ vision too, didn't catch all of it.
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On June 17 2012 01:33 Sven Stryker wrote:Ugh. Edit post again. This link is how I get to the BYOC bracket. I can find the info and teams from the link in the OP, but not the bracket for some reason. Maybe I'm just dumb and can't find it in the OP's links. Edit 1 billion: OP removed the link that confused me, the link still in the OP works great now, thanks!
Yeah, thanks for your link. The original one I had was from a really old DH post so they must have changed it without updating their site.
Some teams are playing against Rioters right now but I'm not sure if it's streamed.
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I feel this "let's show the audience while nothing is going on"-thing isn't exactly working in Riots favor. After having one of those "CANT LOOK AWAY SO HORRIBLE OMG"-cases I luckily pressed print screen to capture it for everyone:
NSFW CAREFUL
Does this resemble what Riots wants to present to the public? =P
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So are these games actually worth watching or are they just stomps?
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CLG.eu vs Made in Italy on stream now, very even game still, MiT even slightly leading. Froggen has Anivia though..
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4 BYOC teams have qualified - CLG.EU, PAH (some ex-Sypher players), Millenium, Mebdi's Minions (YamatoCannon's team)
CLG.EU playing PAH in a semi to determine seeding. Millenium vs. Mebdi after this.
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So SK didn't even get through the BYOC? That's gotta hurt their self confidence.
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On June 17 2012 06:02 overt wrote:
So SK didn't even get through the BYOC? That's gotta hurt their self confidence.
It's more like SK didn't show up to the tournament. Ocelot is there but I don't know about the rest of the team. Same thing with aAa. They didn't play in the BYOC either.
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On June 17 2012 06:06 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:02 overt wrote:
So SK didn't even get through the BYOC? That's gotta hurt their self confidence. It's more like SK didn't show up to the tournament. Ocelot is there but I don't know about the rest of the team. Same thing with aAa. They didn't play in the BYOC either.
Oh, that's what happens when I don't do research. I just saw something about ocelote being at DreamHack doing 1v1s and assumed SK showed up to BYOC. Thanks.
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Lol CLG EU eating this up
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Why the lol stream was not featured in the right sidebar?
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On June 17 2012 07:41 Perchloric wrote:
Why the lol stream was not featured in the right sidebar?
It wont really start till tomorrow. The Open Qualifier today had only 1 big team that stomped there way to the top and the actual competition will begin tomorrow.
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Froggen, please stomp these noobs. Thank you.
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I might miss a few of the earlier games so it would be great if people can put down the bans/picks in the thread. I'll read through and update the OP when I get back.
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Curse vs Fnatic
Bans: TF Kass Noc / Kayle Ahri Shen
Picks: Soraka Urgot Karthus Maokai Irelia / Nautilus Ashe Anivia Taric Nidalee
I like how these caster names overlays durinhg the picks suggested that Phreak was playing a 5v5 match against Rivington.
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Btw, if you have the time and bandwidth, check out WE vs TPA in the final match of the StarsWar 7 LAN. They are the two strongest teams in Asia, and some people, like myself, think they may be the top two teams in the world.
http://www.twitch.tv/garenatw
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Meh Xpeke not doing that great with Anivia.
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PAH vs M
Bans: Singed Naut Ahri / Morg Urgot Noc
Picks: Shen Graves Anivia Janna Yorick / Karthus Maokai Taric Vayne Warwick
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Damn Millenium got rolled.
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Curse vs PAH
bans: Karthus Shen Noct / Urgot Ahri Naut
picks: Graves Taric Morg Malph Kayle / Jax Lulu Anivia Corki Yorick
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LOL that Malphite ulti into Morganna Ulti.
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omfg i just tuned in late and is the DH site only has 1 stream?
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Fnatic vs M
Bans: ? / ?
Picks: Ahri Shen Trist Janna Irelia / Graves Maokai Cass Taric Singed
Missed the bans.
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why no tsm? 
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On June 17 2012 20:51 Katsuge wrote:why no tsm?
TSM doesn't have a team participating in the EU circuit, do they? AFAIK both of their teams are American.
Is there any site you can check the group standings? I haven't been able to find anything yet.
Edit: Nvm, found it: http://binarybeast.com/xLoL1206171
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Have we seen a PAH game yet? I'm a little late to the party (it's Sunday and I like to sleep in)
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Poor entenzwerg
T_T so fucking tired vs CLG
Yes everygame until now was streamed now our game will not be streamed (maybe on french stream) we are out anyway gl to others!
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On June 17 2012 20:51 Katsuge wrote:why no tsm?
They are at GESL winning free money.
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Fnatic vs PAH
Bans: Blitz Naut Karthus / TF Ahri Shen
Picks: Mao Soroka Graves Jax Anivia / Morg Urgot Taric Yorick Nocturne
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Looking pretty close still, Fnatic vs PAH. soaz is doing great toplane, that Jax is going to hurt. And yeah, triple quicksilver sash. No more swapping.
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On June 17 2012 17:44 1ntrigue wrote:Btw, if you have the time and bandwidth, check out WE vs TPA in the final match of the StarsWar 7 LAN. They are the two strongest teams in Asia, and some people, like myself, think they may be the top two teams in the world. http://www.twitch.tv/garenatw
SGS throwing so hard tower diving both nexus turret against an Alistar when both Corki and Malph had like 300 hp left, instead of killing a second inhib. Quadra Ali and the game flow reversed.
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team riot so strong against community lol
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why isn't the lol stream showing on the 'on air' section under the calendar?
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Add the LoL stream to the TeamLiquid ON AIR section please. I really don't think it's fair that DotA2 is up there and LoL isn't, considering LoL has over 66K concurrent viewers right now. (Not to be a dick, just want my LoL represented).
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacklol
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On June 17 2012 23:08 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 17:44 1ntrigue wrote:Btw, if you have the time and bandwidth, check out WE vs TPA in the final match of the StarsWar 7 LAN. They are the two strongest teams in Asia, and some people, like myself, think they may be the top two teams in the world. http://www.twitch.tv/garenatw SGS throwing so hard tower diving both nexus turret against an Alistar when both Corki and Malph had like 300 hp left, instead of killing a second inhib. Quadra Ali and the game flow reversed.
That's probably the GPL (Garena Premier League) which has teams from Taiwan and SEA. The tournament prior was the StarsWar 7 LAN held in Shanghai earlier today and had WE vs TPA in the finals.
On June 17 2012 23:48 gulati wrote:Add the LoL stream to the TeamLiquid ON AIR section please. I really don't think it's fair that DotA2 is up there and LoL isn't, considering LoL has over 66K concurrent viewers right now. (Not to be a dick, just want my LoL represented). http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacklol
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things.
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Why isn't hon featured either? Because both are not really active on TL. Just an observation. DH discussion thread in the league forum 4 pages. Dota 2? 57 pages.
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You guys are complaining to the wrong people. The topic creator has no say on what's represented there. Pretty sure TL does not support LoL unofficially or officially. They do, on the other hand, officially support DotA. This is why you see the DotA listing on the On Air portion.
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On June 18 2012 00:19 ketchup wrote:
You guys are complaining to the wrong people. The topic creator has no say on what's represented there. Pretty sure TL does not support LoL unofficially or officially. They do, on the other hand, officially support DotA. This is why you see the DotA listing on the On Air portion.
They listed the stream link when ogn lol tournament was on (albeit, with inconsistency). So i don't think it's a matter of support.
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On June 18 2012 00:17 SilverStar wrote:
Why isn't hon featured either? Because both are not really active on TL. Just an observation. DH discussion thread in the league forum 4 pages. Dota 2? 57 pages.
That's not a fair comparison.
MLG was last weekend and was a huge tournament. This weekend, we have GeSL and DH, both of which are relatively minor in terms of LoL tournaments due to weaker team line-ups and smaller prize pools.
DotA 2 has very few offline LANs a year and DH is one of them. If you want to compare the popularity of LoL vs DotA 2 on TL, you can simply compare the number of posts in the DotA 2 General Discussion thread with the accumulative amount of LoL General Discussion posts in the past year or so.
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On June 18 2012 00:21 sharky246 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:19 ketchup wrote:
You guys are complaining to the wrong people. The topic creator has no say on what's represented there. Pretty sure TL does not support LoL unofficially or officially. They do, on the other hand, officially support DotA. This is why you see the DotA listing on the On Air portion. They listed the stream link when ogn lol tournament was on (albeit, with inconsistency). So i don't think it's a matter of support.
I'm pretty sure that's proof this is a matter of support. An inconsistent stream display when compared to anything with DotA2 or anything with Tobi casting is ALWAYS linked. I'm relatively certain MLGLoL was also not there. There was only SC2 representation. Think about it. Even with the very active LoL community on TL, the lack of support for LoL is telling.
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On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things.
Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now.
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On June 18 2012 00:32 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:21 sharky246 wrote:On June 18 2012 00:19 ketchup wrote:
You guys are complaining to the wrong people. The topic creator has no say on what's represented there. Pretty sure TL does not support LoL unofficially or officially. They do, on the other hand, officially support DotA. This is why you see the DotA listing on the On Air portion. They listed the stream link when ogn lol tournament was on (albeit, with inconsistency). So i don't think it's a matter of support. I'm pretty sure that's proof this is a matter of support. An inconsistent stream display when compared to anything with DotA2 or anything with Tobi casting is ALWAYS linked. I'm relatively certain MLGLoL was also not there. There was only SC2 representation. Think about it. Even with the very active LoL community on TL, the lack of support for LoL is telling.
wow i did not know mlg had lol.
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On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things.
On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now.
I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend.
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On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now. I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend.
Sure it does: Neo was playing even more D3 then than he does now.
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On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now. I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend.
As someone else mentioned already, Neo doesn't have the power to put up events to the calendar. Sometimes the event requests it themselves (i.e. IPL, GESL) but we've been asking heyoka for help in most cases. It's a bit of people being busy and us being lazy to make sure the streams are attached.
On June 18 2012 00:56 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:51 JBright wrote:On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote:On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now. I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend. As someone else mentioned already, Neo doesn't have the power to put up events to the calendar. Sometimes the event requests it themselves (i.e. IPL) but we've been asking heyoka for help in most cases. It's a bit of people being busy and us being lazy to make sure the streams are attached. Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2, rather than LoL.
It's not as bad as you make it sound. As far as I know, TL hasn't "cut" support for LoL, just that the current staff members have more interest in Dota2. Neo, MoonBear, and myself just have to make sure to remind the right people about the steam sometimes. Regarding last weekend at MLG, I didn't even realize the sidebar was an issue since I thought it was an external link that can watch all of MLG's streams on the same page. I think MLG also had own.3d/twitch.tv streams for LoL in case people can't watch from their page but those aren't usually linked even for SC2. We definitely would have made a request to link LoL if we knew people were having trouble finding the stream.
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On June 18 2012 00:51 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:43 ketchup wrote:On June 18 2012 00:38 TheYango wrote:On June 18 2012 00:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Some of the TL.net admins are huge DotA 2 fans so they make sure DotA 2 is represented in TL.net and it's easy for them to do so. I'm guessing our mods have to go through approval channels to get LoL featured and other such things. Alternatively, Neo is lazy and/or playing Diablo 3 right now. I'd like to think it was this simple, but this does not explain the lack of MLGLoL stream listing on MLG weekend. As someone else mentioned already, Neo doesn't have the power to put up events to the calendar. Sometimes the event requests it themselves (i.e. IPL) but we've been asking heyoka for help in most cases. It's a bit of people being busy and us being lazy to make sure the streams are attached.
Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2 over LoL. I don't think it was a fault of Neo or anyone else that it was not there
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On June 18 2012 00:56 ketchup wrote:
Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2 over LoL. I don't think it was a fault of Neo or anyone else that it was not there
You're phrasing this like it's DotA 2 AGAINST LoL. TL has no vested interest one way or another, so it's not like DotA 2 excludes the possibility of supporting LoL at some future point in time. It just happens to be that among the staff, DotA 2 is more popular right now.
Bear in mind that we also got our own subforum before anyone else did. At that time, I seem to remember people in the HoN/DotA thread complaining about favoritism TOWARD LoL.
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froggen is such a scumbag LOL.
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On June 18 2012 01:00 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:56 ketchup wrote:
Yes, I mentioned that. Maybe I'm being misunderstood. I'm stating that it was more than easy for TL to know that LoL was on alongside SC2 at MLG. It's also easy for them to link to the stream as well. The fact that the stream was not there is the fact that TL has pretty much officially supported one game, DotA2 over LoL. I don't think it was a fault of Neo or anyone else that it was not there You're phrasing this like it's DotA 2 AGAINST LoL. TL has no vested interest one way or another, so it's not like DotA 2 excludes the possibility of supporting LoL at some future point in time.
I'm mostly just going by what I've seen. It sure feels like it's one or the other on TL. Especially on the representation the LoL community gets on the stream listing.
I just want to make it clear before I get misunderstood. I enjoy both games. I dislike the somewhat obvious difference in representation shown by TL
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On June 18 2012 01:01 Keniji wrote:
froggen is such a scumbag LOL.
Eventually going to be an entire team of scumbags on clg eu
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On June 18 2012 01:02 ketchup wrote:
I just want to make it clear before I get misunderstood. I enjoy both games. I dislike the somewhat obvious difference in representation shown by TL
Again, there was a time not so long ago when the perceived "favoritism" went the other way.
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On June 18 2012 01:06 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:02 ketchup wrote:
I just want to make it clear before I get misunderstood. I enjoy both games. I dislike the somewhat obvious difference in representation shown by TL Again, there was a time not so long ago when the perceived "favoritism" went the other way.
I understand your point, but do not necessarily see why it has anything to do with the stream listing. I think we are talking about two different issues at this point.
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There may or may not be favouritism, but the two most productive ways to get LoL featured in TL.net are to convert some of the TL.net admins or owners to become huge LoL fans and to have a massive protest/campaign to get LoL featured in the website feedback section.
The elephant in the room is that there are TL.net admins who are huge DotA 2 fans, and inevitably, they treat LoL as a rival. It's natural that this affects some of the decisions on TL.net but using this as a point of protest won't get you anywhere and will only alienate the TL.net staff when you make blanket statements on favouritism.
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TL is not that important for LoL viewership anyway, probably not for Dota either.
These games are succesful with or without TL, unlike sc2.
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On June 18 2012 00:51 JBright wrote:
It's not as bad as you make it sound. As far as I know, TL hasn't "cut" support for LoL, just that the current staff members have more interest in Dota2. Neo, MoonBear, and myself just have to make sure to remind the right people about the steam sometimes. Regarding last weekend at MLG, I didn't even realize the sidebar was an issue since I thought it was an external link that can watch all of MLG's streams on the same page. I think MLG also had own.3d/twitch.tv streams for LoL in case people can't watch from their page but those aren't usually linked even for SC2. We definitely would have made a request to link LoL if we knew people were having trouble finding the stream.
Thank you for this clarification. I know there are a few of you who do a lot for this sub-section and want to let yall know it's appreciated.
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On June 18 2012 01:14 1ntrigue wrote:
There may or may not be favouritism, but the two most productive ways to get LoL featured in TL.net are to convert some of the TL.net admins or owners to become huge LoL fans and to have a massive protest/campaign to get LoL featured in the website feedback section.
You're forgetting that FakeSteve is the one who made the move to get us this subforum in the first place.
IIRC we didn't even have to ask for it.
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On June 18 2012 01:45 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:14 1ntrigue wrote:
There may or may not be favouritism, but the two most productive ways to get LoL featured in TL.net are to convert some of the TL.net admins or owners to become huge LoL fans and to have a massive protest/campaign to get LoL featured in the website feedback section.
You're forgetting that FakeSteve is the one who made the move to get us this subforum in the first place. IIRC we didn't even have to ask for it.
Again, such a sub section is in the interest of TL. It is not important for LoL.
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On June 18 2012 01:47 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 01:45 TheYango wrote:On June 18 2012 01:14 1ntrigue wrote:
There may or may not be favouritism, but the two most productive ways to get LoL featured in TL.net are to convert some of the TL.net admins or owners to become huge LoL fans and to have a massive protest/campaign to get LoL featured in the website feedback section.
You're forgetting that FakeSteve is the one who made the move to get us this subforum in the first place. IIRC we didn't even have to ask for it. Again, such a sub section is in the interest of TL. It is not important for LoL.
It's the same thing with sidebar streams though--entirely a matter of convenience for TL users. As far as actual viewership, we're pretty much just a drop in the ocean.
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So is anyone else having problems with the stream? For me its offline all the time, only works sporadically.
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So, uh, anyone able to watch M5 play whoever? Can't find a working stream.
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On June 18 2012 01:56 Redox wrote:
So is anyone else having problems with the stream? For me its offline all the time, only works sporadically.
Yea same for me. Just shows 0 viewers and doesnt play.
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Does anyone else have a working english stream? I get some ads, then when the real stream begins it goes black after few secs...god I hate twitch right now, so fucking many problems, haven't been able to watch any stream there for a week while own3d works just fine.
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shittest coverage ever lol
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It's not twitch, it's their production. They "claim" they're being DDOSed...
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Ta for the link. Darien going for DShield start on Shen followed by Funfire rush, huehue.
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Hoooooly shit that Alex Ich TF ult between towers for the ace!
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gosu pepper clearly has had some kind of gypsy internet curse placed on him and his dc issues have nothing to do with his home internet
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So has there been a reason for the constant pausing? I've yet to hear anything besides seeing like a person d/cing. I wish they'd clarify on these situations more.
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Well M5 dominating as expected, I really think this is going to come down to M5 vs CLG.EU and I just hope it isnt a complete stomp.
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Why is this ALWAYS happening to gosupepper ?
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On June 18 2012 02:22 Celestial wrote:
So has there been a reason for the constant pausing? I've yet to hear anything besides seeing like a person d/cing. I wish they'd clarify on these situations more.
They have said it 500 times now ? Are you listening ? Gosu peppers pc.
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I'm starting to side with the "gypsy internet curse" theory put forward for GoSu Pepper, tbh. Really good to see him on support Nunu - such great synergy with a good Kog, up to and including rage Absolute Zeros for guaranteed Icathian Surprise revenge, heh.
Looking forward to the M5/CLG.EU matchup; not entirely convinced AL will give the latter any trouble in the next match. Anyone know the deal with MM?
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AL gets first blood on Krepo after a facecheck. AL off to a good start. Now let's see what they can do with it.
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Kikis' Jax absolutely monstering Wickd's Irelia top, and Leona/Corki showing how you deal with a Sora/Trist lane - AL doing quite nicely. One for one trade in a 5v5 mid, but CLG.EU are too low afterwards to contest dragon.
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CLG.EU lapsing to the "Froggen + 4 guys" form that showed up at MLG :/ Snoopeh's been atrocious. Can't see CLG.EU winning this.
Amazing teamfighting from Froggen on Ahri, btw - Zhonyas rush to let him play incredibly aggro at the start of teamfights, Zhonyas, then use the remaning ult charge or two to GTFO - as I'm typing this, CLG won a 5v5 3-0 after being down six kills to 15 and having lost every dragon.
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We haven't seen an oracles yet in this game. That's strange.
Oh, there's shen with one.
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What is it with CLG's bad form at offline events?
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Srsly Nerf Froggen, dudes OP
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Froggen's back must be so sore, yikes - amazing triple after getting focused. Gold difference is around 2k now after being something around 10k in AL's favour at one point.
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On June 18 2012 03:32 DanielZKlein wrote:
What is it with CLG's bad form at offline events?
They don't have THAT much experience at offline comparatively speaking....at least that's what I think it is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Froggen just plays so well, each game, each tournament. Just amazing.
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On June 18 2012 03:32 DanielZKlein wrote:
What is it with CLG's bad form at offline events?
They make up for it with mind-meld teamfighting synergy (CLG.eu that is)
Also it's impossible to peel Ahri + Nautilus off a carry
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On June 18 2012 03:34 Haasts wrote:
Froggen's back must be so sore, yikes - amazing triple after getting focused. Gold difference is around 2k now after being something around 10k in AL's favour at one point.
No kidding. Dude is doin' work.
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On June 18 2012 03:34 Zergneedsfood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 03:32 DanielZKlein wrote:
What is it with CLG's bad form at offline events? They don't have THAT much experience at offline comparatively speaking....at least that's what I think it is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, i think they are stressing quite much, especially when i look at wicked he looks like he's not feeling well :S
btw +1 to being amazed by Froggen's play
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Froggen has a broad back, can carry lots on it.
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Froggen #1 mid. Alex Ich close #2.
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That Abyssal was the first defensive item on Froggen's Ahri. He's definitely building full on glass cannon hardcarry.
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WTF T_T
That's.....I don't get how they do it.
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Oh my god. How are they doing this! Wow. No ult on Froggen? No problem. Kill everyone anyway.
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oh wow CLG is just too good.
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On June 18 2012 03:32 DanielZKlein wrote:
What is it with CLG's bad form at offline events?
Other than this game they have so far played very good at DH.
At MLG there were tons of technical probblems, and they lost only extremely closely. With a litle more luck they could have even won MLG with their bad form.
Snoopeh looked atrocious this game though. Have seen more than once that Snoopeh goes emo mode if lvl1 doesnt work out and he gets a little he behind in the jungle. He then proceeds to not do anything until team fights.
Wickd also being overagressive on top and collecting unneccessary deaths.
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On June 18 2012 03:36 DanielZKlein wrote:
That Abyssal was the first defensive item on Froggen's Ahri. He's definitely building full on glass cannon hardcarry.
zhonias?
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Man this stream stuff is bullshit... especially at that moment in a fucking epic game...
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On June 18 2012 03:30 Haasts wrote:
CLG.EU lapsing to the "Froggen + 4 guys" form that showed up at MLG :/ Snoopeh's been atrocious. Can't see CLG.EU winning this.
OK, eating my words - CLG.EU comfortably in the driver's seat after coming back from being ridiculously behind. Amazing Super Mario mode from Yellowpete's Tristana in that last teamfight, and Froggen playing v.v.cautiously + sensibly in that last teamfight due to ult being down.
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That would have been a penta for frogen if he didn't blow that ult for no reason :/
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Yeah, I was like wtf is Froggen doing wasting ult to jump blindly over Baron wall. AL forces baron and loses with no ult Ahri. Shit is cray.
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Hmmm that PD choice by corki seems kind of sketch since all of them have so much armor items. Randuins, FH, zhonyas...
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On June 18 2012 03:36 DanielZKlein wrote:
That Abyssal was the first defensive item on Froggen's Ahri. He's definitely building full on glass cannon hardcarry.
He went zhonyas rush though, for the defensive utility.
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True, true, he did have Zhonya's. Still, I am so used to seeing Abyssal first on Ahri. Has that changed since the AP ratios were adjusted or is Froggen really building super aggro?
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I think Froggen was a lot more worried about the (at that stage) 6/0/x Corki than Karthus, and was counting on mobility/invulnerability to dodge Shen/Jax's damage.
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On June 18 2012 03:39 DanielZKlein wrote:
True, true, he did have Zhonya's. Still, I am so used to seeing Abyssal first on Ahri. Has that changed since the AP ratios were adjusted or is Froggen really building super aggro?
I think considering that froggen was owning karthus as it is, just with boots and doran's, he felt zhonyas would have been better, considering everyone else was mostly physical damage. Suppose it could have something to do with the ratio changes, iirc, when you have 300ap, ahri ult does more damage (with new ratios as compared to the old one)
Either way, froggen definitely carry clg hard.
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Rylai's RoA mercs Karthus??
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Amazing how easily CLG wins team fights once they are even on money.
True that Froggen carried this, but on the other hand they won this in team fights, for which you obviously need a good team.
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I'd love to see some slow-mo replays of those first few teamfights to watch Froggen's micro - absolutely breathtaking.
Casters are correct in crediting Krepo's silences as Soraka from stopping Jax from killing Ahri in those teamfights, yeah.
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On June 18 2012 03:45 Redox wrote:
Amazing how easily CLG wins team fights once they are even on money.
True that Froggen carried this, but on the other hand they won this in team fights, for which you obviously need a good team.
Yes, but being so far behind and Froggen was THE one making the huge plays to help swing the game around.
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Yellowpete. <3
Awesome guy.
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That comeback was insane, it was 39k to 29k at one point holy crap.
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is clg vs m5 going to be played today ?
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I know people say Alex Ich is nearly as good, but it always seems like the dropoff between Froggen and other AP mids is steeper than the dropoff between any other position in LoL. He just carries CLG so hard every game, even the ones they lose.
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On June 18 2012 03:59 kongoline wrote:
is clg vs m5 going to be played today ?
All the group stage matches should be finished today.
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Yup, CLG vs M5 is likely not going to matter, assuming M5 will win vs MM.
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Teleport/Smite Shaco on MM, with Singed top, Lulu mid, and Ali/Corki bot. No idea of their chances vs M5, but it'll be entertaining, hopefully!
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teleport smite jungle shaco, this should be interesting.
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MM describing their strat in after game interview: Lulu ult Shaco clone so M5 will blow everything and they can clean up.
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m5 vs clg this gonna be good
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Froggen already punishing m5 for not banning anivia.
2-0 before 10 mins.
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Snoopeh has been useless the entire tournament so far :/
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Perfect timing from M5, getting that dive on Wickd top then a double kill bot just before the dragon spawns.
Aaand, another dive on Irelia as blue is spawning, to deny Frognivia another blue. Diamond romping around with all kinds of ward-fu on Lee.
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On June 18 2012 05:23 JonnyLaw wrote:
Froggen already punishing m5 for not banning anivia.
2-0 before 10 mins.
Can Froggen carry without blue though.
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Love watching m5, esp diamond's leesin.
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On June 18 2012 05:35 Goshawk. wrote:
Love watching m5, esp diamond's leesin.
Diamond is hands down the best jungler in the world! (imo anyways...)
Edit: okay maybe not hands down, cause there's other really good ones too. But I love watching Diamond play.
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M5 five thousand gold ahead down two towers...Whenever they decide to start pushing this should snowball pretty badly.
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m5 rolling CLG. :D Also commentators should stop using the directed camera, it rly isn't meant for live casted games.
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Alex Ich CSing like a beast on Karthus, 70ish CS ahead of Frognivia.
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On June 18 2012 05:39 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:35 Goshawk. wrote:
Love watching m5, esp diamond's leesin. Diamond is hands down the best jungler in the world! (imo anyways...)
And on the other side another zero impact game from Snoopeh.
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They decide to take Baron instead and then streamroll a few people on the retreat. Almost a 10k gold lead for M5. Things not looking good for CLG ^_^
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On June 18 2012 05:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
They decide to take Baron instead and then streamroll a few people on the retreat. Almost a 10k gold lead for M5. Things not looking good for CLG ^_^
Yeah well already over for some time. Stopped watching.
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On June 18 2012 05:43 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
They decide to take Baron instead and then streamroll a few people on the retreat. Almost a 10k gold lead for M5. Things not looking good for CLG ^_^ Yeah well already over for some time. Stopped watching.
That last fight for dragon was pretty close actually. After that CLG just gave up or something giving up baron for an outer tower and then getting picked off after they had it.
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So fucking dissapoiting game from CLG.
Before I facepalm to death, can anyone explain me why Wickd went Triforce first against Vlad top with Karthus mid? Seems so dumb when he could just have gone double null magic mantle into merc + wits and be an anti magic beast vs. 2xap team?
Wickd still no mr items. Real.
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On June 18 2012 05:49 Papvin wrote:
So fucking dissapoiting game from CLG.
Before I facepalm to death, can anyone explain me why Wickd went Triforce first against Vlad top with Karthus mid? Seems so dumb when he could just have gone double null magic mantle into merc + wits and be an anti magic beast vs. 2xap team?
Wickd still no mr items. Real.
Obviously because he wanted to play agressive aganst Vlad. Equal farming with Vlad is not enough becasue he will get stronger all the time. If they can kill him early with the help of Alistar they can snowball top. They could not get any decent ganks going though, so it backfired.
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20k gold lead. Still no inhib turrets down. I wonder how they will push into anivia.
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On June 18 2012 05:49 Papvin wrote:
So fucking dissapoiting game from CLG.
Before I facepalm to death, can anyone explain me why Wickd went Triforce first against Vlad top with Karthus mid? Seems so dumb when he could just have gone double null magic mantle into merc + wits and be an anti magic beast vs. 2xap team?
Wickd still no mr items. Real.
Yo. Guardian Angel best MR item amirite? :D
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CLG has 2 support and no jungler... lol
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Karthus needs to duct-tape an Executioner's Calling onto his ult, sheesh. Also, completes his 6-item build with ... Force of Nature.
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aniva is so broken you can't push a inner tower with her on the enemy team
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On June 18 2012 05:52 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:49 Papvin wrote:
So fucking dissapoiting game from CLG.
Before I facepalm to death, can anyone explain me why Wickd went Triforce first against Vlad top with Karthus mid? Seems so dumb when he could just have gone double null magic mantle into merc + wits and be an anti magic beast vs. 2xap team?
Wickd still no mr items. Real. Obviously because he wanted to play agressive aganst Vlad. Equal farming with Vlad is not enough becasue he will get stronger all the time. If they can kill him early with the help of Alistar they can snowball top. They could not get any decent ganks going though, so it backfired.
Yes, that is deffinately true, and I liked that he bought the sheen as first component. But in my experience, both from playing at suck elo (~1500) and watching pro games, as soon as Irelia gets 2 null mantles, she will WRECK Vlad in all engagements. In that way, Wickd wouldn't even need help from Ali to win his lane, and Ali could focus on ganking the more accecable (spelling?) Karthus or bot.
But, I think you are spot on that they wanted to make strong ali ganks, and it backfired.
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the longer this goes the better for clg l0l
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classic dumb lol game feat clg zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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On June 18 2012 05:52 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 05:49 Papvin wrote:
So fucking dissapoiting game from CLG.
Before I facepalm to death, can anyone explain me why Wickd went Triforce first against Vlad top with Karthus mid? Seems so dumb when he could just have gone double null magic mantle into merc + wits and be an anti magic beast vs. 2xap team?
Wickd still no mr items. Real. Obviously because he wanted to play agressive aganst Vlad. Equal farming with Vlad is not enough becasue he will get stronger all the time. If they can kill him early with the help of Alistar they can snowball top. They could not get any decent ganks going though, so it backfired.
Except that m5 warded the shit out of river so snoopeh couldnt tower dive gank, and alistar basically cant gank a non-retarded vlad anyway.
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5 - 14 in kills at 55 minutes -_____-
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and M5 finally dive and get owned. Hurray turtling.
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corki should hide at bd tower hit it once then run away zzzzzzz
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frognivia back straining so much
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No other team can pull out fights like that
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lol what the fuck am I watching
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and Alex facechecks and dies instantly. Can CLG make use of the 5v4 to take the game?
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The reason why it's always "boring" is because CLG know how not to get out of position. The reason why certain games are exciting is because there are mistakes by other times that teams can take advantage on catch people out of position.
CLG.eu knows when to not do stupid things.
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The throw is strong in this one
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1 hour game, soraka IS STILL LEVEL 17
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On June 18 2012 06:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
The throw is strong in this one
srs?
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Lee Sin is basically useless late game. Anivia is basically broken late game lol
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deman is acting dumb m5 couldn't do anything
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there hasn't been much throw
m5 did miss one small window though that cost them that bot fight
FROGNIVIA OVER THE WALL
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CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG
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wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
biggest comeback ever?
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LOL what a game
WHAT THE FUCK
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You are shitting me.
Froggen Anivia mother fuckers.
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O_O
Just ban Froggen's Anivia, please?
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OH MY FUCKING GOD LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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OMG that comeback.
To everyone who ever asks why people dont call GG when there behind?
This.
just this.
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LOL, just lol at this game, srsly just ridiculous :p
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lategame trist + anivia
opopop
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On June 18 2012 06:13 Goshawk. wrote:srs?
srs.
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wait did CLG just win that? Looked away for a couple minutes x.x I know they were really down for the first 30min lol.
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who cares about gold advantage when no one can push until ur team have full items.
commentators completely missing the point zzzzzzzzzz
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WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED!!?!?!?!
Wow.
Never give up, Never surrender indeed!
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That's why you ban Anivia even if you can deal with her for the first 40 minutes.
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On June 18 2012 06:16 Jaso wrote:
wait did CLG just win that? Looked away for a couple minutes x.x I know they were really down for the first 30min lol.
Indeed. It doesn't matter how far behind you are when everyone has maxed items.
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hahahahahhaha anivia
hahahahh good design, impossible to push on, down 30k gold? np turn on ult, never lose game
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That turn around stun from froggen was soooo good.
And you just can't push vs anivia. Ulti the minions all the time. Want tower dive? wall trolol.
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LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while  .
M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;:
GG though.
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M5 just didn't have good enough late game champs, and they didn't push their advantage home when they had the chance to.
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anivia gives so much control with her ult and wall, jesus christ.
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that just seems bullshit you can't lose with soraka and anivia if you just sit on your towers
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On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though.
Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws.........
So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill.
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Lets not forget Corki is a pretty low range AD carry. With an ad carry like Kog or Trist they could have easily gotten 1-2 hits off on the turret once in a while but with Corki Genja couldn't
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On June 18 2012 06:18 foxmeep wrote:
M5 just didn't have good enough late game champs, and they didn't push their advantage home when they had the chance to.
it wasn't a team comp issue
they had openings to damage the tower with 5v4 situations and when one of CLG were low, but they just didn't do it
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biggest throw in league of legends history lol
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OMG, i was posting in the GESL thread this whole time...
Wow, that was a crazy game. Dat Froggen carry 2 hard
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Lol why did I stop watching? Now I have no idea what happened. :D
I was sure a team like m5 would be able to carry this home.
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Btw I'm pretty sure M5 passed on a good chance to win the game when Froggen went back to get some mana after stalling for like 3 minutes. 3rd Baron or so, standoff in mid. Dive 5v4. But obviously M5 couldn't really know if Froggen was still there or not.
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On June 18 2012 06:21 Redox wrote:
Lol why did I stop watching? Now I have no idea what happened. :D
I was sure a team like m5 would be able to carry this home.
You missed out on a good game.
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Well everything just fit for CLG in that game. Anivia Ult and wall. Soraka able to sustain anivia with mana, and m5 having a low range AD carry.
Still incredible game Lol
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On June 18 2012 06:21 spinesheath wrote:
Btw I'm pretty sure M5 passed on a good chance to win the game when Froggen went back to get some mana after stalling for like 3 minutes. 3rd Baron or so, standoff in mid. Dive 5v4. But obviously M5 couldn't really know if Froggen was still there or not.
They just needed to take potshots at the turret when they had flash up. Anivia can wall you, but you can flash over it 
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LoL was just christened as an eSport.
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M5's lack of any CC harder than a slow (aside from Lee Sin's ult) really cost them - it contributed to their inability to let Corki take potshots at the tower without opening themselves up to huge risks, and when everyone's at 6-item builds and offense has outscaled defense by a ridiculous degree, getting half your team caught in a Pulverise/Flash Frost/etc while the enemy team is free to roll their face across their keyboards makes teamfights fairly unwinnable - Karthus/Vlad melted before they could use their Zhonyas towards the end.
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Hm, Alex Ich on Anivia? I don't think I've ever seen him pick her, am I mistaken?
Edit: wait, apparently it's a rerun?
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this just shows that league has and long way to go in the picking phase when m5 didn't even comphrend how they were going to take towers. imagine if the game was even it would of been a stomp by clg
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On June 18 2012 06:19 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though. Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws......... So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill.
huge gold advantage early-mid, all the barons, map control, huge tankiness, denied anivia from blue a ton and M5 still lost because they couldn't win before late game
if you still want to argue that they didn't throw, well I think you're just bias. They were stupid by giving froggen anivia in the first place
O_O
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On June 18 2012 06:37 askTeivospy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:19 Goshawk. wrote:On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though. Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws......... So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill. huge gold advantage early-mid, all the barons, map control, huge tankiness, denied anivia from blue a ton and M5 still lost because they couldn't win before late game if you still want to argue that they didn't throw, well I think you're just bias. They were stupid by giving froggen anivia in the first place O_O
"Throw" is just another word for "played like shit after they were ahead." I don't even know what it's suppose to convey other than, "I like this team but I don't want to admit that they got outplayed."
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On June 18 2012 06:22 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:21 Redox wrote:
Lol why did I stop watching? Now I have no idea what happened. :D
I was sure a team like m5 would be able to carry this home. You missed out on a good game.
No it wasn't lol,it was a terribly boring game with a huge WTF moment after an hour that consisted of 30 minutes of stomp and 30 minutes of passive turtling.
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On June 18 2012 06:37 askTeivospy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:19 Goshawk. wrote:On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though. Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws......... So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill. huge gold advantage early-mid, all the barons, map control, huge tankiness, denied anivia from blue a ton and M5 still lost because they couldn't win before late game if you still want to argue that they didn't throw, well I think you're just bias. They were stupid by giving froggen anivia in the first place O_O
tell me how they could push down the tower even with the 20k advantage
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On June 18 2012 06:42 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:22 jacosajh wrote:On June 18 2012 06:21 Redox wrote:
Lol why did I stop watching? Now I have no idea what happened. :D
I was sure a team like m5 would be able to carry this home. You missed out on a good game. No it wasn't lol,it was a terribly boring game with a huge WTF moment after an hour that consisted of 30 minutes of stomp and 30 minutes of passive turtling.
this, glad someone else has a brain.
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Russian Federation798 Posts
I am telling you now guys, froggen is going to get anivia nerfed, that guy makes champs look 5x stronger than they actually are.
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On June 18 2012 06:45 fcgog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:37 askTeivospy wrote:On June 18 2012 06:19 Goshawk. wrote:On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though. Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws......... So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill. huge gold advantage early-mid, all the barons, map control, huge tankiness, denied anivia from blue a ton and M5 still lost because they couldn't win before late game if you still want to argue that they didn't throw, well I think you're just bias. They were stupid by giving froggen anivia in the first place O_O tell me how they could push down the tower even with the 20k advantage
Actually Corki could just have went and hit top/bottom tower once between waves, while everyone was still sitting mid. CLG had no wards, nobody would have noticed and they couldn't have left mid tower either. Tank tower for 1 attack (with triforce proc), pull back. Considering they were trying to take that mid tower down for like 20 minutes, it would have been enough time to poke a tower down like that.
On June 18 2012 06:48 fishinguy wrote:
I am telling you now guys, froggen is going to get anivia nerfed, that guy makes champs look 5x stronger than they actually are.
Nope, Anivia actually IS that strong.
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Scarra was talking on his stream about how strong Anivia is. He was saying something to the effect that Anivia's kit and base damage is so ridiculous that he could smurf lower ELOs and still dominate with AD Anivia.
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I want to see the VODS....
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It is a throw in the sense that M5 wildly misplayed that. If you don't think they misplayed it and threw the game, then you have to say that there is no way for Anivia/Soraka to ever have their base turrets pushed down. I think M5 should have just manned up and dove way before the respawn timers got to the 60 second mark.
Maybe people will start taking Anivia/Soraka every game and play for super late 60 minute games.
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Shan Huang @ChaoxLoL
All the hype about CLG.EU comeback, when M5 just failed really hard. Need more intelligent fans; that game was sad to watch.
For all those saying what an amazing game it was.
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People like something I don't like, they must be stupid! Great attitude to have.
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Just because one team did something wrong doesn't mean it isn't a great game. Often it's because the other team forced them into that mistake, which is why it's a great game.
I guess we're all responsible of doing it every now and then (looking down on games because of what perspective you're looking at), but Chaox's tweet was really in poor taste. As much I like TSM, it doesn't make sense to use your public pulpit in such fashion (i.e. "need more intelligent fans" is very offensive).
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On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though.
Can't use zhonya when you're stunned or silenced. He and vlad were getting 100-0'd without CC ever letting up - might have something to do with the fact that CLG had 5 hard CCs (counting silence since it shuts down zhonya) - many of them AoE, ALL of them on short CDs, plus anivia wall, and M5 had only Lee's ultimate for CC. If they dove 20 minutes earlier 5v5 maybe they could have won a fight but against that much CC and with none to show for themselves they were relying entirely on blowing CLG up before getting CC'd.
M5 just didn't have the composition to go up against that much CC in the late game. Kudos to CLG EU for hanging on by a thread for that long - if anyone at all on CLG had gotten poked down too low at the wrong time during the siege, it was all over.
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On June 18 2012 07:26 jacosajh wrote:
Just because one team did something wrong doesn't mean it isn't a great game. Often it's because the other team forced them into that mistake, which is why it's a great game.
I guess we're all responsible of doing it every now and then (looking down on games because of what perspective you're looking at), but Chaox's tweet was really in poor taste. As much I like TSM, it doesn't make sense to use your public pulpit in such fashion (i.e. "need more intelligent fans" is very offensive).
No, it was a bad game because most of the game (and keep in mind it was over 60 minutes) was two teams standing off at a turret killing minion waves. If you find that interesting...yeah
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It was a good game to me because:
-A team I highly dislike, but still have much respect for in terms of skills, like M5 lost a massive lead to
-A team I think is very over rated like CLG.eu
So yes, while you can choose to focus on the perspective that M5 threw the game; I focus on the perspective that CLG.eu forced their hand in little ways that amounted to a clutch victory.
People will watch hour-long games of baseball, chess, etc. (all of which I could also argue are pretty damn boring) and find it enjoyable. If you don't agree with that, fine. If you find it logical to question people's intelligence based on what they like or dislike...yeah.
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On June 18 2012 07:10 Goshawk. wrote:
Shan Huang @ChaoxLoL
All the hype about CLG.EU comeback, when M5 just failed really hard. Need more intelligent fans; that game was sad to watch.
For all those saying what an amazing game it was.
Chaox is probably just buttfrustrated that they couldn't even make it out of the groupstages the last time they played m5.
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On June 18 2012 09:11 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 07:10 Goshawk. wrote:
Shan Huang @ChaoxLoL
All the hype about CLG.EU comeback, when M5 just failed really hard. Need more intelligent fans; that game was sad to watch.
For all those saying what an amazing game it was. Chaox is probably just buttfrustrated that they couldn't even make it out of the groupstages the last time they played m5.
On the contrary, TSM has been on top of the NA scene lately. I think if it's out of frustration, it has more to do with how the GESL tournament is going.
But yeah, there is probably a slight bit of resentment towards m5
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
an issue that I had with the game was Genja's lack of lifesteal. I felt his GA was not utilized properly, as even when he came back to life there was no way he could survive with only 750 health and nothing else. Basically as soon as he took any damage during the teamfight there was no way he could gain that life back
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On June 18 2012 09:48 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:11 Thermia wrote:On June 18 2012 07:10 Goshawk. wrote:
Shan Huang @ChaoxLoL
All the hype about CLG.EU comeback, when M5 just failed really hard. Need more intelligent fans; that game was sad to watch.
For all those saying what an amazing game it was. Chaox is probably just buttfrustrated that they couldn't even make it out of the groupstages the last time they played m5. On the contrary, TSM has been on top of the NA scene lately. I think if it's out of frustration, it has more to do with how the GESL tournament is going. But yeah, there is probably a slight bit of resentment towards m5
I thought the resentment, if any, was towards CLG. Rather than saying CLG made a great comeback, he focused on M5's bad play.
Not agreeing or disagreeing btw, since I haven't seen the match anyway.
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Did anyone else notice Vladimir selling his Abyssal Scepter at 56:30 for a Needlessly Large Rod? What the hell was he thinking? How is that a remotely good decision? Maybe if he could afford to one-shot the 2nd Deathcap it would be ok (I still don't think so), but selling a full item for just a NLR, giving him 10 extra AP whilst losing 57 MR (plus the aura)?
That's pants-on-head stupid, and he was rightfully chunked by Froggen in the final fight for his idiocy.
There were some other bad item choices by M5 (Sorcs and Tabi on Karthus/Vlad when they're both being mucked by CC, FoN over QSS on Karthus), but this one is just... so... stupid...
Darien (Vladimir)'s Item Path:
+ Show Spoiler +Boots of Speed
Will of the Ancients
Ninja Tabi
Rylai's Crystal Scepter
Amplifying Tome
Abyssal Scepter
Amplifying Tome
Rabadon's Deathcap
Thornmail - I have no idea why he would get this over Hourglass.
Thornmail - (about 7 minutes after buying it) Apparently he didn't either.
Will of the Ancients - Considering Karthus didn't have one, nobody on his team but Lee had any sustain and everyone did lots of spell damage, this is perhaps an even worse decision than selling the Abyssal later on - plus it was done at a point in time where M5 was still ahead
Zhonya's Hourglass - finally at 52 minutes he gets this core item
Void Staff - I don't think it's worth selling Will of the Ancients for this. CLG was all under 110 MR. Damage is nice but WotA brings so much to the team. Sell the Rylai's if you really need MPen, the slow is worthless late game.
--- this is where the bottom lane teamfight happens ---
Abyssal Scepter - WHAT IN GOD'S NAME?
Needless Large Rod -WHY?
--- this is where Vladimir gets 2-combo'ed by Anivia because he has no spellvamp to heal back and only has 50 MR ---
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On June 18 2012 06:50 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:45 fcgog wrote:On June 18 2012 06:37 askTeivospy wrote:On June 18 2012 06:19 Goshawk. wrote:On June 18 2012 06:17 MyTHicaL wrote:LOL. Biggest throw I've seen in a while . M5 should've closed the game out (obviously) to avoid this exact possibility. Also AlexIch started to do random troll moves, face checking and not using his zhonya's >_<;: GG though. Yes that facecheck at blue when CLG were probably ahead was one of the throws......... So many people misinterpreting this game like it was some amazing display of skill. huge gold advantage early-mid, all the barons, map control, huge tankiness, denied anivia from blue a ton and M5 still lost because they couldn't win before late game if you still want to argue that they didn't throw, well I think you're just bias. They were stupid by giving froggen anivia in the first place O_O tell me how they could push down the tower even with the 20k advantage Actually Corki could just have went and hit top/bottom tower once between waves, while everyone was still sitting mid. CLG had no wards, nobody would have noticed and they couldn't have left mid tower either. Tank tower for 1 attack (with triforce proc), pull back. Considering they were trying to take that mid tower down for like 20 minutes, it would have been enough time to poke a tower down .
Actually wickd and snoopeh were mirroring corki that entire time, defending the side he went to nonstop. it was just a good defense and a good show you can let ppl watch if they are 20k behind that its never over untill the nexus falls
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On June 16 2012 21:03 Nova_Terra wrote:
Im here to watch froggen annihilate the BYOC qualification and then take the tourney
Fucking genius olol
Also i've been standing behind froggen for most of his games, so amazing
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I wish I was there TBH Met Wickd once at a tourney, if he wouldnt be playing lateron that day we'd still be chatting about toplane right now.
CLG.eu hwaiting!
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Vancouver14381 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Karth gonna be so strong though :O
GOGO M5! THis is a hyped match, really curious what happens
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Omg that darien move on the gank.. sick
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That darien duke, even fooled Alex with it
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Heres the advantage you want....
aaaaaaaaaand its gone!
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Vancouver14381 Posts
The dangers of supports clearing wards alone. That could have lost AL the game.
edit: guess not. Kog gets caught and gets exploded by Ahri.
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This fight was awful to watch, terrible play by curse
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I don't understand why they tried to engage that, the charm was shielded and Ahri had already blown 2 charges on her ult, why follow-up with Malph's ult (more like "dive") with Taric/Graves/Kayle unable to join?
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I said to myself 'Genja, if you don't do something in the next team fight I'm going to have to declare Chaox as the best AD carry" but then he got a triple kill and I was like "Genja, I'm sorry I doubted you."
[Please don't respond to this saying "LOL (Insert AD Carry) is best AD carry LOL". It's opinion.]
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Didn't see the bans.
Curse: Taric Nocturne, Graves Morgana, Darius
M5: Shen, Nunu Kog, Irelia Galio
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Taric gets harassed by Nunu and Kog, but stuns Nunu just out of turret range when Graves comes back, they almost burst him down and chase, with Taric still low. Galio tps in using a bush ward and help finish off Taric for FB.
Two minutes later Nocturne ganks bottom but summoner heal allows Kog to live till Shen ults him. Curse dives and gets Kog for Nocturne, with Shen almost dead too.
Gold roughly equal thanks to Morgana pushing when Galio leaves. Irelia almost even with Darius (which sux hard for him) and Kog a bit ahead bot.
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Darien + Nocturne dive top and get a kill on Irelia + top tower, M5 responds with drake (and kill Morgana not careful enough).
I'm not sure if taking that tower was the right idea, here Darius didn't need to ult to kill Irelia but she still holds her own in cs and she pushes less.
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The commentary is about 2 seconds ahead of the game for me
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On June 18 2012 18:55 romanov wrote:The commentary is about 2 seconds ahead of the game for me
same here, cant sync it :s
very annoying
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Darius roams to no avail, meaning with Morg's death all lanes are outfarmed by M5. Irelia takes top, and M5 the gold lead.
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Massive teamfight bot, my stream stutters, things to note are Shen surviving with like 100 HP, Morgana ult not stunning anyone due to late timing and good splitting from M5 (they could as the fight had broken down, less free damage taken). Graves gets caught and bursted, Taric dies, somebody finishes off Irelia despite Galio using his ult to peel beautifully.
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What do you ban vs M5? Its so annoying, im gonna have to go with TF Shen and Karthus... Those globals... daaayumn
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I'm lagging like mad (bad comp at work), apparently Curse took a tower but lost 4 people. Can't full screen to look at gold but M5 probably firmly in the lead by now, I imagine they also got a drake out of it.
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IE doing its best to piss me off, I missed everything that happened the last 10 minutes, but M5 prob aced Curse without breaking a sweat and earned a surrender. 2-0.
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On June 18 2012 19:11 Alaric wrote:
IE doing its best to piss me off, I missed everything that happened the last 10 minutes, but M5 prob aced Curse without breaking a sweat and earned a surrender. 2-0.
M5 picked of noctourne darius and morg in toplane getting them free baron, after that they pushed mid getting 4 kills and the inhib and CRS surrenderd being 10K behind
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On June 18 2012 19:13 romanov wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 19:11 Alaric wrote:
IE doing its best to piss me off, I missed everything that happened the last 10 minutes, but M5 prob aced Curse without breaking a sweat and earned a surrender. 2-0. M5 picked of noctourne darius and morg in toplane getting them free baron, after that they pushed mid getting 4 kills and the inhib and CRS surrenderd being 10K behind
They didnt surrender, GoSu ulted the nexus.
true story
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fnatic vs clg eu in 2nd semis now.
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Why does xPeke always run TF? His TF is nowhere near tourney level. His TF exerts no map pressure, misses farm and get outlaned (sure, it's Ahri, but he lost because of bad play not because of being countered).
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They say froggen might get Zonias next.... Froggen doenst die as it is, theres no need to die less then he is
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On June 18 2012 20:28 1ntrigue wrote:
Why does xPeke always run TF? His TF is nowhere near tourney level. His TF exerts no map pressure, misses farm and get outlaned (sure, it's Ahri, but he lost because of bad play not because of being countered).
I believe the TF already did a lot simply by being a threat. This was the reason why leona 7 graves did not play more agressive bot despite being ahead. Without the tf threat they would have played much more agressive I believe.
Same with top lane, I have seen mayn games of Wickd with Renekton against Kennen. usually he plays it very agressive, but just could not in this one because of TF.
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I proper jinxed Froggen with the 'doenst die' whoops
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That was a very greedy dive by Froggen. Unexpected of him to make such a blatant mistake.
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Whoaaaw that was a 5man stun on the leonault, followed by a 4man stun wit the nautult
Those are the things that seperate them from the rest imo
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Anyway, if CLG.eu or FnaticRC played like TPA, this game would be over by now. Lategame ambush into fast push OP.
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CLGeu's team fighting carries them so hard, wickd and snoopeh are so fail in lane/early stages of the game.
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Trist not in the fight from start then dat flash zzzzzzzzz
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On June 18 2012 20:45 Goshawk. wrote:
CLGeu's team fighting carries them so hard, wickd and snoopeh are so fail in lane/early stages of the game.
Snoopeh is actually very solid and clean, he doenst get into trouble if he doenst has to and hes very calm in his ganks.
Wickd farms. You gotta love it or hate it, but thats what he does and hes one of the best at it. He has no fear and an insane gameknowledge, you dont want him on you lategame when hes farmed. Thats why so many opponents camp his lane.
In the end , LoL is a teamgame, so if they get 'carried' as you put it, is that really a problem? Teamfights is where you win and lose games.
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clg eu take g1 with superior team fights.
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Stream dies, comes back with 4-0 + nash for CLG.eu pushing nexus turrets. Ee Han Timing.
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Russian Federation798 Posts
Anyone got the picks and bans for this game?
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On June 18 2012 20:51 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:45 Goshawk. wrote:
CLGeu's team fighting carries them so hard, wickd and snoopeh are so fail in lane/early stages of the game. Snoopeh is actually very solid and clean, he doenst get into trouble if he doenst has to and hes very calm in his ganks. Wickd farms. You gotta love it or hate it, but thats what he does and hes one of the best at it. He has no fear and an insane gameknowledge, you dont want him on you lategame when hes farmed. Thats why so many opponents camp his lane. In the end , LoL is a teamgame, so if they get 'carried' as you put it, is that really a problem? Teamfights is where you win and lose games.
Still Snoopeh behing behind something like 60 to 120 cs to Maokai was way too much.
Wickd cs was also somewhat low, although I give him the benefit of the doubt because of the TF threat. And kennen is annoying to lane against.
Anyway both of them were good in the team fights like always.
On June 18 2012 20:51 Alaric wrote:
Stream dies, comes back with 4-0 + nash for CLG.eu pushing nexus turrets. Ee Han Timing.
Never died for me.
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On June 18 2012 20:54 fishinguy wrote:
Anyone got the picks and bans for this game?
Yep!
CLG banned Darius Shen and Karthus
Fnatic banned Irelia Anivia (Lol so scared) and Urgot
Froggen takes ahri, yellowpete graves, krepo Leona, snoopeh nautillus and wicked renekton
Fnatic took twisted fate, Tristana, kennen, Janna, and maokai
CLG won because of excellent team fight initiation mainly in the form of a good charm from Froghri and good anchors from snoopilus with yellowpete doing work in the back
Edit also Froggen and wIckd switched lanes for a while midgame cause kennen was doing well vs wickds renekton
Game 2 bans are CLG Shen Urgot Nautillus
Fnatic Irelia ahri Anivia
CLG takes Froggen morgana, snoopeh maokai, krepo soraka, yellowpete kogmaw, and wickd jax
Fnatic takes Nidalee Karthus nocturne nunu and tristana
Surprised about Froggen taking morg
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Picks
Fnatic: Nidalee Karthus Nocturne Nunu Tristana
CLG.eu: Maokai Jax Kog'Maw Soraka Morgana
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Uber fail from Fnatic, takes blue without smiting, fails to steal CLG's red, has to flash.
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On June 18 2012 21:13 Alaric wrote:
Picks
Fnatic: Nidalee Karthus Nocturne Nunu Tristana
CLG.eu: Maokai Jax Kog'Maw Soraka Morgana
UR TOO LATE SON xD
Good fb from wickd
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FLASH BANANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Froggana is pretty good too
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Morgana missing, Karthus follows bot, but despite that fnatic's botlane still camping CLG's turret until it's too late.
Good communication skills.
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Gotta love Fnatic going with splitpush Nidalee then diving 4v5 to defend an inner turret instead of stalling for Soaz to kill an inhibitor.
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Who won game2? Can someone give a quick recap of the game? Tnx in advance <3
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CLGeu won it, didn't really see game.
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Fnatic got more or less stomped because Nidalee got caught by Jax at level 2, dropping to below half-HP, then Maokai came for the first blood gank, putting Nid in a very awkward spot (figure Jax level 4 with around 15 more cs than Nida).
Then Morgana ganked bot since Kog/Soraka were pushed to their turret. Fnatic's mid (Karthus) follows, but Tristana and Nunu both stay under turret until Morgana is nearly at the tribrush, so jump or not Trist gets caught by Morg's ult, stunned, and dies. Karthus tries to finish off Kog (runs into bush, juking Nunu) then damage Morgana, eats a lot of damage 1v3, flashes away, Soraka flash-banana for the 3rd kill.
I started lagging after that and missed most of the action but with such leads and Jax scaling way harder than Nidalee anyway CLG just rode their advantage. Also SoaZ doing the splitpush, but Fnatic still tries to contest baron or initiate on CLG 4v5, at least thrice (once at baron, once to defend a top tower, the other one I can't remember when, I had barely fixed the lag and didn't see that Nida was missing until the fight was over).
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Between that banana-kill and the splitpushing Nidalee, Nocturne ganked bot once, yellowpete died and fnatic got the turret.
Then they tried to roam around playing towersiege, but this did nothing apart from letting yellowpete freefarm. Froggen got caught and killed once by 3, but Jaxjump+Kog ulti made it a 1 for 1.
And from that point, soaz was splitpushing top while clg was 5v4-ing or 4v4-ing towers (with Wickd defending).
They dove at one of the mid towers, got 2 kills and did Baron.
EDIT:
And yellowpete finished the game with something like 7/1/4.
Wüppens gonna wüpp^^
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They all sign a shirt afterwards and ask a question about the game and give it to whoever asnwers right as well as take a team photo with them, and Snoopeh was like OK THE QUESTION IS How many kills did scumback krepo steal last game lol
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On June 18 2012 22:15 Nova_Terra wrote:
They all sign a shirt afterwards and ask a question about the game and give it to whoever asnwers right as well as take a team photo with them, and Snoopeh was like OK THE QUESTION IS How many kills did scumbag krepo steal last game lol
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@alaric & antyee
TY sirs
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oh man, they 'forgot' to put up the lol stream link again.
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On June 18 2012 22:53 sharky246 wrote:
oh man, they 'forgot' to put up the lol stream link again.
Neither is the dota or was the hon. Stop qq'ing.
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Joe Miller tweets that M5 still aren't at the venue. Roh roooh.
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Looking forward to this final, maybe wickd can finally win an offline tournament. Maybe M5 has gotten back on their feet since Alex was in hospi, regardless good matches coming up.
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I thought m5 vs clg was after third place match or is it now?
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Does CLG start with a 1 game advantage seeing as they beat M5 yesterday?
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First game of clg vs m5 followed by the bronzematch, and then the rest of the final.
On an other note from reddit:
"We get to chose side in all matches due to M5 being late to the party (they are probably showing up within the next 10-15 minutes). The circumstances couldn't be any better!" Yellowpetes Facebook.
On June 18 2012 23:25 Nova_Terra wrote:
Does CLG start with a 1 game advantage seeing as they beat M5 yesterday?
It's not a double-elimination bracket, so I think no.
Just an ordinary bo3 (bo5 would be better imo).
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Holy shit I just watched the M5 vs CLG.eu game.
Fuck me.
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M5 were an hour late, punished by CLG.eu having first pick first ban every game of the BO3
Bans:
CLG
Shen Yorick Darius
M5
Urgot Soraka Naut
Picks:
CLG
Wickdrelia Kogmaw Alistar Frognivia Maokai
M5
Twistedfate Nocturne Corki Nunu Vladimir
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M5 is giving clg Anivia and Alistar. Good luck with this
edit: o its not alistar jungle, still strong line up I think compared to m5
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Bans:
CLG: Darius Yorrick Shen
M5: Urgot Nautilus Soraka
Picks:
CLG: Kog'Maw, Alistar Irelia, Maokai Anivia
M5: Nocturne Nunu, TF Corki, Vlad
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m5 smart with soraka ban she was stopping them push last time.
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Wickd will want to play agressive vs Vlad but that will be difficult with TF around. They need to gank Vlad early or things will get dicey.
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Wow, lvl1 towerdive firstblood with no losses
CLG means business! game on!
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Nocturne sneaks in the back of botlane with doublebuff, dead cow as a result. 1-1 so far
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Level 1 Pool not good enough, Free Wards for CLG.eu
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I won't LR this one, doing it for a buddy who doesn't have access to TL either.
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sigh, fuck.twitch
24mb download is not enough to view above 360...
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this game is going to be so bad kog and anivia for clg
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yeee m5 steals dragon and go ahead on gold
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4 man backdoor dive on bot, Nunu gets killed under the tower, corki suicides on CLGs tower just before kog can get a hit on him.
Huge fight at dragon, wickd is there making it 5v4. CLG takes dragon and TF down, M5 takes down Snoopeh. Vlad pushing top in the meantime.
M5 dive alistar bot but allmost gets Nunu killed, cow lives.
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Anivia 20cs ahead of TF in mid, rest of the lanes are pretty much equal.
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Nunu sleeping on the job, gets killed by a simple gank. 4-2 score now
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Froggen playing very well this game. Constant pressure mid means no ganks from TF.
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Russian Federation798 Posts
we have yet to see either Noc or TF use their ultimate to gank.
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Dragonfight comming up, everyones just bought. Wickd and Vlad dont take part , making it 4v4
no clue what happend, my stream died :/
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Nooo stream crash for me
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Stream dies on me as they start the drake. Yay.
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Drag Fight into Stream Smite.
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great timing with the stream
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production value at its greatest
wow
this is the worst i've seen in any tournament
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Looks like M5 got the dragon plus a 1-for-1.
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On June 18 2012 23:49 jacosajh wrote:
production value at its greatest
wow
this is the worst i've seen in any tournament
LOL. There was another tourny this weekend....
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On June 18 2012 23:47 Alaric wrote:
Stream dies on me as they start the drake. Yay.
I think the dragon fight ended with 1 kill for each side and dragon going to m5. Looked to me like that from a short glimpse.
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On June 18 2012 23:49 jacosajh wrote:
production value at its greatest
wow
this is the worst i've seen in any tournament
I see you havent seen WCG ever
Finally a noc + TF gank bot
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Wickd steals red after Noc dived bot. Uses red and yellowpete to kill vlad.
7-5 is the score now.
No clue if anyone followed my poor LR, but i gtg
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M5 gonna have to make some plays soon. Kog and Anivia are getting big....
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The stream is still muted for me;
I've followed WCG streams, but the really bad ones were from what? 2003 - 2005?
It's 2012.
But yeah the GESL is pretty bad too.
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am i the only one with a lagging no sound stream?
480p partially works, 720+ is totally shit -.- cmon dreamhack dont disappoint me as the best tournament alongside IPL
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The production of this is not bad at all.
The stream was just dying.
edit.
I have sound and no problems now on 720.
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M5 trades bot turret for stealing blue. On the surface, seems like a bad trade.
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What about the sheer fact that ads play at the worst times? And even when they're not playing, I'll often get the overlay that says "ad loading" as if someone keeps hitting some damn button they're not supposed too.
Also someone in production keeps switching to the wrong overlay at times.
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On June 18 2012 23:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
M5 trades bot turret for stealing blue. On the surface, seems like a bad trade.
Unless you can press on that advantage, it is a bad trade. Denying Froggen blue could mean that you could either 5v5 fight at Drag/Baron or try and push a turret with the small advantage you have.
CLG getting a turret really only nets them money/exp and a small positional advantage.
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Bullshit stream totally crashing my browser. Fuck this. I know that computer's kinda old but still, that's infuriating. Brb searching lost tabs URLs.
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On June 18 2012 23:57 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
M5 trades bot turret for stealing blue. On the surface, seems like a bad trade. Unless you can press on that advantage, it is a bad trade. Denying Froggen blue could mean that you could either 5v5 fight at Drag/Baron or try and push a turret with the small advantage you have. CLG getting a turret really only nets them money/exp and a small positional advantage.
That bot lane push gave them a kill on Genja and the inner turret.
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On June 19 2012 00:00 Antyee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:57 Doctorbeat wrote:On June 18 2012 23:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
M5 trades bot turret for stealing blue. On the surface, seems like a bad trade. Unless you can press on that advantage, it is a bad trade. Denying Froggen blue could mean that you could either 5v5 fight at Drag/Baron or try and push a turret with the small advantage you have. CLG getting a turret really only nets them money/exp and a small positional advantage. That bot lane push gave them a kill on Genja and the inner turret.
Ah. Well than it's clearly in CLG's favour!
Just turned on the stream myself. Fun to see M5 taking a bit different comp than usual with double global ultimates (Tf/noc).
Alistar+Maokai is real terror though.
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M5 just keeps staring at that first mid tower....
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Why even bother picking proper initiation and hard cc against kogmaw~.~
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CLG takes mid inhib after a great engage. 4 For 0, and now they Baron.
Froggen's area control is pretty damn impressive. Makes for great followups with their line-up, considering they have three tanky champions with stuns and gap closers. Meanwhile Yellowpete just shreds through their whole team.
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The real terror is just letting CLG have both Kog and Anivia, M5 can't or won't seem to push even 5v4 on that first mid tower while YellowPete is farming bot lane. Seems more like they're giving up any chance at aggression at this stage when their comp falls off hard compared to CLG. Just seems really sad to me.
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At this point, it's pretty over. CLG's got a late-game comp and are up ~5k, a baron buff, and mid inhib vs. a mid-game comp from M5.
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I dont understand how ANY team especially M5 can still not ban anivia vs Froggen, especially after yesterday's game. Are they too cocky to admit that he IS the damn bird. Please dont argue with the He's gosu with any mid champ argument because clearly anivia in his hands is gamechanging :D
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m5 don't know how to pick
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On June 19 2012 00:07 Celestial wrote:
The real terror is just letting CLG have both Kog and Anivia, M5 can't or won't seem to push even 5v4 on that first mid tower while YellowPete is farming bot lane. Seems more like they're giving up any chance at aggression at this stage when their comp falls off hard compared to CLG. Just seems really sad to me.
Yeah, Kog is benefiting a lot from Anivia. Great synergy. Can't push vs late game Anivia or Kog.
And CLG pushes it through and takes the game! GG!
@Asnsensation:
I think they were planning to use the double global against the Kog+ Anivia. Anivia can't wall vs TF/Noc ult, and both Kog and Anivia don't have an escape on their own other than flash.
Of course, CLG were in the lead from the beginning due to Kog's lvl 1 FB.
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m5 need to stop running vlad top i think.
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CLG teamfights too stronk.
And yeah, Yellowpete, Wickd, Froggen, Snoopeh all got their most favorite champ.
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M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are.
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I can't even get impressed by Froggen anymore. The more I see him play Anivia, the more I'm jaded. It became that predictable and repetitive.
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What can M5 do against CLG? It seems their nerves were even shakier in this game.
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On June 19 2012 00:13 jacosajh wrote:
M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are.
I'd argue that CLG's supporting heroes are far better early game. Maokai is a better early game ganker than Noc, and Ali is a better support early on. I'd even argue that Irelia is better early game than Vlad.
M5's lineup really looked focused on lvl 6 and higher (not late game though).
@Zenon: The lvl 1 kill contributed a lot, can't let a Kog get a lead in lane early on.
Other than that, their picks just didn't work out. CLG played protect the Kog perfectly, and M5 wasn't able to edge an advantage out in laning phase, where they should have the advantage with double (semi)global ultimate ganks.
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Once vlad is lvl 9ish and gets hextech, he's a beast, and can push his lane to help Noc gank or counter jungle.
TF and Noc ult at lvl 6, that's pretty game breaker from 15-25 minutes. All of the games I've watched with M5, this is around the time when things really spiral out of control.
But yeah, in late game, TF and Noc ult are pretty much useless vs that CLG team comp.
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I've been wondering for quite some time, but isn't Gosupepper a bit mentally challenged?
He seems to be so stupid compared to any other support player.
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While I'm a big fan of GoSu Pepper's Nunu, I don't think it combos with Corki well enough to keep running that particular bot lane :/
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Just for your information: finals are using another stream -> click me.
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On June 19 2012 00:27 Haasts wrote:
While I'm a big fan of GoSu Pepper's Nunu, I don't think it combos with Corki well enough to keep running that particular bot lane :/
same nunu is worthless compared to ali who brings way more
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On June 19 2012 00:16 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 00:13 jacosajh wrote:
M5 trying to take advantage of early game stronk champs; can't really blame them for picking that way. They're playing where their strengths are. I'd argue that CLG's supporting heroes are far better early game. Maokai is a better early game ganker than Noc, and Ali is a better support early on. I'd even argue that Irelia is better early game than Vlad. M5's lineup really looked focused on lvl 6 and higher (not late game though). @Zenon: The lvl 1 kill contributed a lot, can't let a Kog get a lead in lane early on. Other than that, their picks just didn't work out. CLG played protect the Kog perfectly, and M5 wasn't able to edge an advantage out in laning phase, where they should have the advantage with double (semi)global ultimate ganks.
Yeah, M5 ran a mid-game comp, not an early game comp. But his point correct in its idea. They were hoping to get kills on Kog with double-ganks from Nocturn and TF globals. Unfortunately, TF was always pushed back by Anivia, and Nocturn was afraid of being counter-jungled by the roaming Irelia and a weirdly agressive Maokai. M5 won the mid-game, but they didn't win it by very much when they needed to absolutely crush it be able to compete with CLG's late game.
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Why do M5 keep running Corki with Nunu? I would have thought of all the popular ADs he would be the one who benefits from AS the least.
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I know that Genja plays a pretty good Ashe. If they have problems pushing vs. Anvivia / Kog, a heavy initiate when they're slightly ahead might break the mid game stalemate to seal the deal before CLG can recover.
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Is game1 over yet? If so, who won? Cant access stream where i am now. tnx in advance
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It's been over for like 15 minutes.
Clg won.
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They still refusing to ban Anivia.
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And CLG gets Kog again first pick against Noct/Nunu, are they really gonna let CLG have the same team?
Edit: Oh wait is this just game 1 over again? Yup, stream seems awfully weird today, Quake gets phased to LoL, then back around and around. Pretty confusing.
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Man, Ret read that like a book. Not the best unit control, but it should be enough to win w/o much more trouble.
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On June 19 2012 00:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Man, Ret read that like a book. Not the best unit control, but it should be enough to win w/o much more trouble.
Wrong game
Aw, I can't believe i missed game1 =[
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On June 19 2012 01:11 HeroHenry wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 00:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Man, Ret read that like a book. Not the best unit control, but it should be enough to win w/o much more trouble. Wrong game Aw, I can't believe i missed game1 =[
OOPS! :-D
So what's the deal with the long-ass wait between Game 1 and the rest of the series? Seems really weird....
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On June 19 2012 01:20 GeorgeForeman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 01:11 HeroHenry wrote:On June 19 2012 00:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Man, Ret read that like a book. Not the best unit control, but it should be enough to win w/o much more trouble. Wrong game Aw, I can't believe i missed game1 =[ OOPS! :-D So what's the deal with the long-ass wait between Game 1 and the rest of the series? Seems really weird....
switching to the dream arena for games 2/3
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Vancouver14381 Posts
Curse.EU takes 3rd while Fnatic take 4th place at Dreamhack.
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On June 19 2012 01:24 nojitosunrise wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 01:20 GeorgeForeman wrote:On June 19 2012 01:11 HeroHenry wrote:On June 19 2012 00:55 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Man, Ret read that like a book. Not the best unit control, but it should be enough to win w/o much more trouble. Wrong game Aw, I can't believe i missed game1 =[ OOPS! :-D So what's the deal with the long-ass wait between Game 1 and the rest of the series? Seems really weird.... switching to the dream arena for games 2/3
It's 2AM here... Finals were supposed to begin at 11PM >.< I'm falling asleep and have to work tmr ~
If only they could get their schedule right once...
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Ok I give up, trying to watch dreamhack from Australia is straight up impossible. Maybe if theres yet another 3-hour delay I can watch come morning.
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I don't even know why you would have game 1, and then like an hour+ before game 2...
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On June 19 2012 01:49 jacosajh wrote:
I don't even know why you would have game 1, and then like an hour+ before game 2...
«An hour+» : you mean 2h ? After a 30 minutes delay already ? >.>
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lol come on dreamhack, this is becoming a bit of a joke...
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One cookie here says that it will be another two hours before we get a random representative on the stream that tells us there is a delay so it will take another hour to start.
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So they cause a 2 hour delay just because they want to move the game to the dreamarena.
seems pretty stupid.
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I give up. I really wanted to see the games and had planned my evening around it, but this is plain bullshit.
NOT a single word, not a single piece of information, and a 2h+ delay ? Without ANYTHING interesting to watch inbetween ?
And now the 3 games I want to watch will start AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME ? Read : DotA 2, SC2, LoL ???
This is just stupid. I waited 3h watching VODs and now everything will start at once, if it starts one day. How does that even make sense.
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God I hate twitch.tv, every time any stream gets a decent amount of viewers it starts lagging.
They updated the start time for in 8 minutes, according to the clock thingy on the stream at least.
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'The clock literally means nothing anymore.
It has been changed before it's deadline at least 10 times today.
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On June 19 2012 02:08 ShloobeR wrote:
'The clock literally means nothing anymore.
It has been changed before it's deadline at least 10 times today.
well at least its something different to look at, considering all the other things on the screen stay the same
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Good thing I am confined to this desk for most of the day; or I would've stopped watching this timer a long time ago and done something more productive.
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aaaand as soon as something happens it lags to hell and back
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How does the stream never lag when they show the cameras in the BYOC area, never lag when showing the clock, but always lag when showing games or on stage stuff?
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good lord, i HATE twitch... that god damn site always lags out at the best moments...
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Finally started. m5 have got naut
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720 is fine, 720+ has sound totally fucked up.
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has diamond been playing nautilus or is it something they've been saving for the final?
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M5 Banning Anivia, Ahri and Morgana.
Orianna, Karthus or Kogmaw npnp.
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There is an echo/feedback on the caster's mic.
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Always love the Renekton pick, honestly.
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On June 19 2012 02:20 jacosajh wrote:
There is an echo/feedback on the caster's mic.
Yup. T_T
Good lineup for m5 I think.
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yes m5 have good picks for once
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On June 19 2012 02:21 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:20 jacosajh wrote:
There is an echo/feedback on the caster's mic. Yup. T_T Good lineup for m5 I think.
I haven't seen anyone win against clg with a "protect the kog" comp.
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What the?
Why did they mention that crap about being 30 secs ahead? That is the first time I've heard that in a tournament. I couldn't really get the whole thing.
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On June 19 2012 02:25 jacosajh wrote:
What the?
Why did they mention that crap about being 30 secs ahead? That is the first time I've heard that in a tournament. I couldn't really get the whole thing.
Unlike MLG's soundproof booths, the players can technically hear a bit of what's going on since the stage is open, so they can't really say "there's a ward in bot river bush" over the loudspeaker, otherwise it might get heard.
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really hate the kassadin pick, pretty sure clg's going to take this.
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that flash from wickd was sick
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On June 19 2012 02:28 Mogwai wrote:
really hate the kassadin pick, pretty sure clg's going to take this.
I'm honestly not sure why he's still ban/pick status at all times. I mean, yes, he's annoying to lane against, near impossible to gank, and can stomp on some/most mids, but not really as hard as some champs, I feel. He can get shut down by pre-6 pressure and really safe play, which pros can do easily. And past that mid-game instagib potential, I just don't think he has the carrying or utility power that others bring.
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Was Irelia or Renekton picked first?
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Irelia
EDIT:
If clg wins this game, then they royal-roaded the whole tourney? ^.^
They haven't dropped a single match and offline-qualified.
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CLG have won... damn wanted to see game 3!
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This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf?
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Are any of you guys lagging, or just twitch just hate me?
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On June 19 2012 02:38 jacosajh wrote:
This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf?
I might be wrong, but I thought there has only been one LoL tournament ever that used closed team booths. or maybe the Korean one too, but its still far from standard.
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On June 19 2012 02:40 Ziken wrote:
Are any of you guys lagging, or just twitch just hate me?
Nope, even in the university it was lagging and now at home it is unwatchable
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On June 19 2012 02:40 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:38 jacosajh wrote:
This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf? I might be wrong, but I thought there has only been one LoL tournament ever that used closed team booths. or maybe the Korean one too, but its still far from standard.
The Korean ones used sound booths. MLG Anaheim is the first MLG event to use sound proof booths, the previous ones all didn't. And MLG's sound proof booths caused additional problems on day 1 like feed back in the booth and stuff lol.
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Anyone have picks / bans for those of us that cannot watch the stream?
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Stream is fine for me, but I switched from 720+ to 720, try turning it down?
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On June 19 2012 02:43 Insanious wrote:
Anyone have picks / bans for those of us that cannot watch the stream?
Got them in the OP.
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On June 19 2012 02:43 Requizen wrote:
Stream is fine for me, but I switched from 720+ to 720, try turning it down?
Hell, its even lagging at 240p...... I usually watch it clearly with no lag at 480p but this is ridiculous.
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Kassadin isn't really going to do a lot to Urgot, is he?
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On June 19 2012 02:40 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:38 jacosajh wrote:
This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf? I might be wrong, but I thought there has only been one LoL tournament ever that used closed team booths. or maybe the Korean one too, but its still far from standard.
Well, I don't know how they've been doing it, but AFAIK all tournaments I've seen so far; they didn't have to not discuss information sensitive stuff like where wards are, gank setups, etc. That's all just pretty much basic caster material I would think.
Also, IIRC, all of the recent tournaments used closed booths.
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On June 19 2012 02:43 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:40 Redox wrote:On June 19 2012 02:38 jacosajh wrote:
This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf? I might be wrong, but I thought there has only been one LoL tournament ever that used closed team booths. or maybe the Korean one too, but its still far from standard. The Korean ones used sound booths. MLG Anaheim is the first MLG event to use sound proof booths, the previous ones all didn't. And MLG's sound proof booths caused additional problems on day 1 like feed back in the booth and stuff lol.
Maybe they're just physically really close to the casters. Which is kind of dumb. I don't know cause I'm not there, but it doesn't make much sense to prevent casters from talking about that kind of stuff.
Oh well, it's better than nothing.
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On June 19 2012 02:40 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:38 jacosajh wrote:
This game seems pretty underwhelming so far; 2+ hour wait not worth it currently.
Also, that whole thing with the non-closed booths = wtf? I might be wrong, but I thought there has only been one LoL tournament ever that used closed team booths. or maybe the Korean one too, but its still far from standard.
I know some of the Chinese E-sports centers have soundproof booths (they were used for G-League finals in DotA). They might have been used for LoL tournaments as well, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Lol, Karthus chasing 3 champions into fountain is so LOLOL
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Same here.
Although I root for CLG, I hope that M5 wins this because I want to see a G3. This G2 wasn't all that exciting.
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kassadin's just a bad tournament pick. teams need to stop using scrubby solo queue counterpicks in tournament.
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On June 19 2012 02:58 Mogwai wrote:
kassadin's just a bad tournament pick. teams need to stop using scrubby solo queue counterpicks in tournament.
What amazes me is that m5 chose kass right after clg chose maokai, arguably the best early ganker mid, certainly one of the best, just does not make sense. No matter how well kass does vs karthus 1 v 1, you have to take junglers into account ._.
Weird pick.
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Not just Maokai for Kass to worry about, but Urgot/Sora when teamfights roll around - you're not going to burst an Urgot down, and you're unlikely to burst anything down with a Soraka there to heal as well as silence you if you jump in.
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On June 19 2012 03:01 Ziken wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 02:58 Mogwai wrote:
kassadin's just a bad tournament pick. teams need to stop using scrubby solo queue counterpicks in tournament. What amazes me is that m5 chose kass right after clg chose maokai, arguably the best early gankers mid, if not the best, just does not make sense. No matter how well kass does vs karthus 1 v 1, you have to take junglers into account ._. Weird pick.
I would never do the Kassadin vs. Karthus pick in tournament, ever. Only time the team that picked Kassadin has won recently was 1 of the CLG vs. TSM games and even there, I feel like the game was won elsewhere, not with Jiji's kass over Regi's Karth.
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I feel like there are APs that can peel better for Kog
I'm sure it was possible to do a successful Kass roam midgame, but much worse effort/reward ratio against professional players with safe play + communication
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couldn´t see shit, thank you twitch.tv for sucking so hard
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Darien's Irelia getting picked 2 times in a row. Reminds me of my super stronk teammates in solo queue - dafuq?
gg clg.
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Well that was expected. I'm not that upset, though, CLG EU has been playing so well, they deserved a big tournament win.
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On June 19 2012 03:05 TenJin`Lucian wrote:
couldn´t see shit, thank you twitch.tv for sucking so hard
The second stream worked fine.
http://clgaming.net/live/7314-dreamhacktv
Feel sorry for telling you know tho. :x
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One game final really sucks :/ Even though they won 2-0 was really only 1 game. Gratz to CLG though.
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haha "painfully awkward price ceremony"
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Gratz CLG, they deserved it!!
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That guy should have interviewed CLG a little longer. Would have made it less awkward as CLG are all pretty cool guys that can give decent answers.
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CLG.eu glad to see they went all the way after fans paid there way there major props to all who donated and to the full clg.eu team.
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Is the OP up to date with all the VODs?
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On June 19 2012 08:13 cLutZ wrote:
Is the OP up to date with all the VODs?
You'll have to go look on their twitch archives for all the playoff games since some of the games have been cut to several videos. Otherwise the BYOC and the group stages should all be there.
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