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At any point of IEM Season 6 Championship, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread.

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Hannover but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 06.03.2012
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 05 2012 16:49 GMT
#101
Those of you picking Sypher to advance out of Group B (namely over M5), what's your train of thought here? Do you guys think M5's overplayed their counterjungling strat and that other teams can outplay them in other areas now?

If Kiev is any indication, Dar1en and Alex Ich are solid solo laners (who can carry late game) and M5's team fighting is nothing to scoff at.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 05 2012 18:13 GMT
#102
On March 06 2012 01:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Those of you picking Sypher to advance out of Group B (namely over M5), what's your train of thought here? Do you guys think M5's overplayed their counterjungling strat and that other teams can outplay them in other areas now?

If Kiev is any indication, Dar1en and Alex Ich are solid solo laners (who can carry late game) and M5's team fighting is nothing to scoff at.

While I think that M5 got EXTREMELY lucky in Kiev by just being the only other decent team there apart from TSM, combined with the fact TSM is litterally the WORST top tier team at dealing with counterjungling, I still think they have the ability to get through. But realistically no one (other than TSM) is going to let M5 do crazy counterjungling simply because that strat really just isnt that good if you know how to punish the enemy team for doing it.

Sypher impressed me in the Kings of Euro tourney, and Curse is, well, Curse. I guess I overlooked Ehome, but, eh, if the rumors about China being obsessed with Ez, then Cait, are true its just an indication that the Chinese server is about 6 months behind the EU and NA ones.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 05 2012 18:29 GMT
#103
On March 06 2012 01:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Open a Result spoiler.

Top 3 advance.
1st place directly to Semi
2nd and 3rd fight it out in Quarters.

It's a weird bracket but it's not abhorrent.


I like the format since it means there's actually an incentive to come in first in the group. Getting a bye is a much bigger deal than the more typical tournament where first in the group stage only gives better seeding in the elimination bracket.
Zero fighting.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 18:58:10
March 05 2012 18:56 GMT
#104
Just to let you guys know, I won't be writing summaries for the pool stages just because there are so many matches in one night and some of them are played on different streams at the same time. I'll still hav polls for those of you who did watch those matches and link to the summaries Riot writes when they come up.

My picks for the groups would be..

Group A - CLG. na, aAa, Fnatic
Group B - TSM, M5, Curse
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 05 2012 19:20 GMT
#105
On March 06 2012 03:13 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 01:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Those of you picking Sypher to advance out of Group B (namely over M5), what's your train of thought here? Do you guys think M5's overplayed their counterjungling strat and that other teams can outplay them in other areas now?

If Kiev is any indication, Dar1en and Alex Ich are solid solo laners (who can carry late game) and M5's team fighting is nothing to scoff at.

While I think that M5 got EXTREMELY lucky in Kiev by just being the only other decent team there apart from TSM, combined with the fact TSM is litterally the WORST top tier team at dealing with counterjungling, I still think they have the ability to get through. But realistically no one (other than TSM) is going to let M5 do crazy counterjungling simply because that strat really just isnt that good if you know how to punish the enemy team for doing it.

Sypher impressed me in the Kings of Euro tourney, and Curse is, well, Curse. I guess I overlooked Ehome, but, eh, if the rumors about China being obsessed with Ez, then Cait, are true its just an indication that the Chinese server is about 6 months behind the EU and NA ones.


I also think that some people are now rooting against M5, following the M5 vs Mono BM cannonade.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
March 05 2012 19:26 GMT
#106
id really like to see dignitas get out of that group, but man with aAa now in it... its one damn hard group.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 19:43:38
March 05 2012 19:43 GMT
#107
Group A: aAa, CLG.NA, Dignitas
This is probably the scarier group. aAa is very likely to make it out as they're coming in with a lot of momentum. If CLG and Dignitas play the solid game and don't choke though, I can see them taking games off aAa however. CLG.NA also has CLG.EU around for scrims, theorycraft and inside info so they should have an edge. Fnatic has been on semi-hiatus with several members on holiday but somehow they magic up wins at LANs. Millenium/Alternative, while good probably can't compare to an on-the-ball CLG/Digi. But they'll still likely put up a good fight.

Group B: Team SoloMid, Curse, M5
This group is a bit weird. At first I thought Group A was the Group of Death, but now that I think about it, Group B actually has more teams with comparable skill levels so the competition here is probably more fierce.

Instinct says that TSM and M5 should be the favourites. But they're also two teams that sometimes choke, keel over and just die. TSM top lane has always been a problem, and Chaox can no longer just crush bot lane and carry. M5 should also be very impressive, but they also seemed to choke in the IPL Qualifiers. Ping issues aside, some of their decision making was very questionable, such as blowing all their ults when a single Irelia tried to stop them Baron-ing and then having nothing left when they knew the rest of Mono was rushing there. But who knows.

Curse I think is a bit of a hidden underdog. They're not the best, but sometimes they have flashes of brilliance. Their poor performance at IEM shouldn't really count since they didn't have their full line up. With Nyjacky back in and the full roster, I think they have potential. Nyjacky has often impressed me, especially his pre-buff Veigar play.

E.Home PDD is insisting on playing with a broken wrist. I think we can guess how this is going to turn out. Sypher is good, but I just get the feeling that Curse should be able to nudge them out. But Skyart makes big plays sometimes. Again, close call, but I think Nyjacky has more influence as mid lane.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 05 2012 19:51 GMT
#108
On March 06 2012 04:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Group A: aAa, CLG.NA, Dignitas
This is probably the scarier group. aAa is very likely to make it out as they're coming in with a lot of momentum. If CLG and Dignitas play the solid game and don't choke though, I can see them taking games off aAa however. CLG.NA also has CLG.EU around for scrims, theorycraft and inside info so they should have an edge. Fnatic has been on semi-hiatus with several members on holiday but somehow they magic up wins at LANs. Millenium/Alternative, while good probably can't compare to an on-the-ball CLG/Digi. But they'll still likely put up a good fight.

Group B: Team SoloMid, Curse, M5
This group is a bit weird. At first I thought Group A was the Group of Death, but now that I think about it, Group B actually has more teams with comparable skill levels so the competition here is probably more fierce.

Instinct says that TSM and M5 should be the favourites. But they're also two teams that sometimes choke, keel over and just die. TSM top lane has always been a problem, and Chaox can no longer just crush bot lane and carry. M5 should also be very impressive, but they also seemed to choke in the IPL Qualifiers. Ping issues aside, some of their decision making was very questionable, such as blowing all their ults when a single Irelia tried to stop them Baron-ing and then having nothing left when they knew the rest of Mono was rushing there. But who knows.

Curse I think is a bit of a hidden underdog. They're not the best, but sometimes they have flashes of brilliance. Their poor performance at IEM shouldn't really count since they didn't have their full line up. With Nyjacky back in and the full roster, I think they have potential. Nyjacky has often impressed me, especially his pre-buff Veigar play.

E.Home PDD is insisting on playing with a broken wrist. I think we can guess how this is going to turn out. Sypher is good, but I just get the feeling that Curse should be able to nudge them out. But Skyart makes big plays sometimes. Again, close call, but I think Nyjacky has more influence as mid lane.

pretty much this, just hoping Curse can make to finals
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 05 2012 20:37 GMT
#109
Nice! Carmac just tweeted that LoL will be on the 'main' stage, at least the largest of the 3 arenas, at IEM all week. Let's see what the LoL community can bring to the table.

ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 05 2012 20:42 GMT
#110
On March 06 2012 05:37 JBright wrote:
Nice! Carmac just tweeted that LoL will be on the 'main' stage, at least the largest of the 3 arenas, at IEM all week. Let's see what the LoL community can bring to the table.

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/176737290679353345


I wonder how many rage tears will be shed over this tweet.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 05 2012 20:46 GMT
#111
On March 06 2012 05:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 05:37 JBright wrote:
Nice! Carmac just tweeted that LoL will be on the 'main' stage, at least the largest of the 3 arenas, at IEM all week. Let's see what the LoL community can bring to the table.

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/176737290679353345


I wonder how many rage tears will be shed over this tweet.

I'm guessing more than a few.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 05 2012 20:49 GMT
#112
a significant more if r/starcraft hears about this lol
Go go Alliance.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
March 05 2012 21:00 GMT
#113
On March 06 2012 05:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 05:37 JBright wrote:
Nice! Carmac just tweeted that LoL will be on the 'main' stage, at least the largest of the 3 arenas, at IEM all week. Let's see what the LoL community can bring to the table.

https://twitter.com/#!/mbCARMAC/status/176737290679353345


I wonder how many rage tears will be shed over this tweet.


Hmm, it's interesting that they're expecting a larger in-person turn out for LoL over SCII. I thought that SCII has always had more people turning out for events and LoL just had the sheer stream numbers, but I guess that's changed. I suppose it could be that previously LoL had just never been given the chance that SCII had.

Anyhow, makes no difference to me :p
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 05 2012 21:05 GMT
#114
its a shame i have to study, i would really love to see how the IEM gaming area integrates into the serious bussiness Cebit.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 05 2012 21:25 GMT
#115
go TSM! dont let TRM or Regi derp
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 05 2012 21:29 GMT
#116
On March 06 2012 06:05 LaNague wrote:
its a shame i have to study, i would really love to see how the IEM gaming area integrates into the serious bussiness Cebit.


They've got their own hall
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
March 05 2012 21:41 GMT
#117
so which caster is the must see for league of legends?
for starcraft i know which caster suits my tastes and is good at what he does. for lol i have no idea.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#118
On March 06 2012 06:41 shrinkmaster wrote:
so which caster is the must see for league of legends?
for starcraft i know which caster suits my tastes and is good at what he does. for lol i have no idea.

I think it's the same for League as well. Just sift and find who you think is entertaining and interesting. For me, I think the Riot/ESL casters are all pretty decent. If you want someone who's slightly more knowledgeable at the game, take a look at Phreak, as he's probably the best player out of all of them. But in terms of sidechat and entertainment, look elsewhere.

Personally, I think they're all good in their own respect.
God Bless
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#119
On March 06 2012 06:41 shrinkmaster wrote:
so which caster is the must see for league of legends?
for starcraft i know which caster suits my tastes and is good at what he does. for lol i have no idea.


There aren't any casters on the level of tastosis/Apollo/Day9/etc. Primarily because the scene is really young and there aren't any (retired) pro's who are casting.

The closest would be Jatt, former Dignitas member, but we haven't seen him in the scene in a while.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 22:07:46
March 05 2012 21:51 GMT
#120
On March 06 2012 05:49 dooraven wrote:
a significant more if r/starcraft hears about this lol

Honestly the reaction from the rest of TL would probably be more bitchy.... in most ways this site's a lot better than every other community but in terms of elitism TL is number one (not that the site is elitist, just that it attracts people who are). Though the mods usually do a good job of dealing with it.

If I were to guess at who goes through in groups I'd have to agree with everyone else. CLG, Dig, aAa in A and TSM, M5 in B. The only spot I'm not so sure about is the third team from group B. Its probably Curse but I could see any of the other 3 surprising people.
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