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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 22 2012 15:45 GMT
#4041
m5 is a great team. But this tournament was made 20x easier because people still refuse to accept that shyv is a fucking strong hero in the hands of empire. It doesn't matter what you think, if it's someone's best hero and they play it 10x better than any hero in place of it, then it's a problem and needs to be banned.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 22 2012 15:45 GMT
#4042
I wouldn't even blame it on the Irelia pick, but more the way he is playing her, he's trying to freeze the lane rather than shoving it when Shy runs away, either follow her and make her fight for the jungle or shove the lane and pressure the tower he's doing neither.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4043
quad flash into baron, sona ults all 4... doesn't end well.

m5 spends a fortune on clearing wards but still, TSM's ward coverage has been abyssmal. Too far into the mindset of "thats Xpecial's job" or something.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4044
Yeah these were just really bad picks(bans perhaps) gg
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4045
On January 23 2012 00:45 aliasds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:43 daemir wrote:
Oddone, lvl 8

real, if you watching for weak links in TSM this game, don't put it all on RM


hard to level in jungle when the enemy steals the top half of your jungle on every respawn. who would you blame for that happening?


Himself along with his lanes. Protecting them isn't one single players fault. That's what I'm saying, everyone painting RM the single reason for loss. Regi didn't do shit in mid either this game and chaox got outfarmed by AD kennen >_>_>_>_>_>
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4046
On January 23 2012 00:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:44 GranDim wrote:
Teemo could have bullied shyv so bad too.


Teemo over Irelia pick plzplzplzplzplz.

Jesus FK

How do you choose Irelia over Teemo or Trynd. I don't get. I'm running it all in my head. Lose lanes, loses teamfights. Wtf does Irelia bring to the table?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4047
On January 23 2012 00:45 triangle wrote:
Yeah that's game.

Really well played by M5.

Top lane lost that completely.


Every one lost their lane by 15-20 cs though, so you can't really blame one person. M5 just played better overall and were way better than TSM in their teamplay in this series.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4048
On January 23 2012 00:43 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:42 fantasticoranges wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Casters complimenting Riot on how the game is constantly evolving.

Each IEM is different.

No one team is completely dominating.

I'm inclined to agree.


I remember when the new jungle came out and just about everybody hated it.

And now... it's actually working.

Riot secretly does know what they're doing o:

People don't give Design and Live Team enough credit.

What are you guys talking about, counterjungling has been there since like forever, not sure if there are recordings of Dyrus' games from 6-12 months ago but he was constantly winning games by stealing enemy jungle with solo top singed, enemy jungler ended way underlevelled while Dyrus had 2+ lvls advantage over enemy top.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4049
NOONE IN THIS THREAD IS ON SKYPE WITH TSM. OR VENT. OR WHATEVER.

So please stop assigning blame based on supposition. TRM could have demanded Irelia. He could have been told that he HAD to play Irelia. The whole team could have agreed that Irelia was a good idea. We don't know. Its a team game. When a team loses its the team's fault.

Bleah.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4050
On January 23 2012 00:45 NotSorry wrote:
I wouldn't even blame it on the Irelia pick, but more the way he is playing her, he's trying to freeze the lane rather than shoving it when Shy runs away, either follow her and make her fight for the jungle or shove the lane and pressure the tower he's doing neither.


Irelia has a hard time shoving without philo. Q spam gets you low on mana if you go wriggle's.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4051
On January 23 2012 00:44 mitschi wrote:
Why didn´t TRM just ward tribush?? That would have spotted every single jungle invasion...

i'm pretty sure they knew about pretty much every single jungle invasion. the problem is that irelia is a shit as fuck pick. TSM attempted to contest a few golem steals and they all went very very badly for them.
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4052
On January 23 2012 00:43 daemir wrote:
Oddone, lvl 8

real, if you watching for weak links in TSM this game, don't put it all on RM


I didn't realize that as a jungler when top and bottom are both losing (i don't even remember mid, but I think non blue karth was losing as well), and your entire jungle except like... wolves is getting stolen by your team and the enemy team, you're expected to still be on the same level as everyone else.

Top lane being a bad pick gave shyv free roam for his top jungle, and regi took wraiths and blue.

Nothing oddone could do.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22239 Posts
January 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#4053
Oddone really couldnt do anything this game. Shyvana could run into his jungle without fear. Not his fault at all.
Top fail lost them the game.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4054
On January 23 2012 00:45 hunger wrote:
bad game. Oddone and Rainman need to take a serious look at what happened that game. Also, wtb a rematch where TSM gets blue twice. M5 is 2x the team they are on purple when they get blue side and their top lane can roam enemy jungle.


Maybe Riot will finally get to making magma chamber after this. Symmetric sides is just fairer.
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4055
bRILLIANT Skarner ult!
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4056
gg
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4057
Noooo TSM
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4058
Ya. Credit to M5 for actually playing it out, but this tourney is just all on TSM for being retarded. Game 2 they got exactly what they needed to win, then did EXACTLY the wrong thing in game 3.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 22 2012 15:47 GMT
#4059
gg wp!
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
January 22 2012 15:48 GMT
#4060
gg comrades.
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