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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 16:19:53
January 21 2012 16:18 GMT
#2221
Against M5 I would ban GP / Irelia / Riven just to disrupt their top lane imo.

They won all their fight at SK's blue because they had the hero to do that : shyvana / gp / ryze, potent hero real fast without that much items.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
January 21 2012 16:19 GMT
#2222
I was initially surprised at the Miss Fortune pick, but she fit in very well with M5's playstyle - healing debuff vs Soraka & summoner heal on Sivir for duels, two AOEs (one as a slow) for jungle fights and to let Ryze/Taric catch someone, and even her passive movespeed boost fits in nicely with the Shurelyas/Phantom Dancer rush to complement M5's aggressive teamfights.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 21 2012 16:21 GMT
#2223
M5 should be banned, because they said "gg easy" during the interview after the game, which is against summoners code, and it is bannable.

trolololol
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 21 2012 16:22 GMT
#2224
On January 22 2012 01:19 Haasts wrote:
I was initially surprised at the Miss Fortune pick, but she fit in very well with M5's playstyle - healing debuff vs Soraka & summoner heal on Sivir for duels, two AOEs (one as a slow) for jungle fights and to let Ryze/Taric catch someone, and even her passive movespeed boost fits in nicely with the Shurelyas/Phantom Dancer rush to complement M5's aggressive teamfights.


It's been said time and again. Riot does a pretty good job making all champions "viable".
It's up to team to build a comp around champions that synergize.

MF is a great fit for M5's style.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 16:31:04
January 21 2012 16:23 GMT
#2225
Nvm lol
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 21 2012 16:23 GMT
#2226
On January 22 2012 01:19 Haasts wrote:
I was initially surprised at the Miss Fortune pick, but she fit in very well with M5's playstyle - healing debuff vs Soraka & summoner heal on Sivir for duels, two AOEs (one as a slow) for jungle fights and to let Ryze/Taric catch someone, and even her passive movespeed boost fits in nicely with the Shurelyas/Phantom Dancer rush to complement M5's aggressive teamfights.

MF might be the only carry that counters soraka lane =/
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 21 2012 16:25 GMT
#2227
On January 22 2012 01:23 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 01:19 Haasts wrote:
I was initially surprised at the Miss Fortune pick, but she fit in very well with M5's playstyle - healing debuff vs Soraka & summoner heal on Sivir for duels, two AOEs (one as a slow) for jungle fights and to let Ryze/Taric catch someone, and even her passive movespeed boost fits in nicely with the Shurelyas/Phantom Dancer rush to complement M5's aggressive teamfights.

MF might be the only carry that counters soraka lane =/

Why everyone gotta hate on my favourite Yordle Trist zzz...
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 21 2012 16:27 GMT
#2228
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 21 2012 16:31 GMT
#2229
On January 22 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match


What other team does this remind people of...
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 21 2012 16:33 GMT
#2230
On January 22 2012 01:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match


What other team does this remind people of...

Real fanboi lol
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
January 21 2012 16:34 GMT
#2231
On January 22 2012 01:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match


What other team does this remind people of...


Fnatic?
aka Teutonica
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 21 2012 16:34 GMT
#2232
Fuck, now M5 needs to play Fnatic. I still feel Fnatic is better for some reason.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
January 21 2012 16:35 GMT
#2233
Well M5 took everyone by storm with their aggressive speed-based (that's why they bought PD (ye it gives momevement speed) invasive and kill-oriented games. I'm sure if this becomes more well-known, it can be countered. Still awesomeone to watch and curious to see if TSM (who I assume will beat dignitas now) can find an answer to it fast enough.
here i am
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 21 2012 16:37 GMT
#2234
TSM probably has the strongest teamwork at Kiev to challenge M5. Despite my fanboyism for scarra, Dignitas may still be working things out with Dominate.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 21 2012 16:38 GMT
#2235
On January 22 2012 01:33 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 01:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 22 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match


What other team does this remind people of...

Real fanboi lol


I have to makeup for all the haters who are talking about the TSM M5 finals already ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 16:39:38
January 21 2012 16:38 GMT
#2236
On January 22 2012 01:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 01:27 nojitosunrise wrote:
people keep forgetting about the 8 or so wards M5 had at all times during the match


What other team does this remind people of...

hmmmm none

No other team has as good jungle/ward control with oracles


On January 22 2012 01:34 Cloud9157 wrote:
Fuck, now M5 needs to play Fnatic. I still feel Fnatic is better for some reason.

-_-;
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 16:42:13
January 21 2012 16:40 GMT
#2237
TheOddOne used to play a heavy map-control oriented jungling before this whole jungle overhaul. It wasn't rare to see a level 5-6 oracles popped over his head.
Shadow of his former self.
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
January 21 2012 16:47 GMT
#2238
Why don't people use alistar as support anymore? I haven't seen him once this tournament, and seeing the CLG TSM game is making me wonder why.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-21 16:49:49
January 21 2012 16:49 GMT
#2239
On January 22 2012 01:47 fishinguy wrote:
Why don't people use alistar as support anymore? I haven't seen him once this tournament, and seeing the CLG TSM game is making me wonder why.


I've seen M5's Gosu Pepper play quite a lot of (v.aggressive) Alistar on stream, and I'm half-wondering if we'll see anyone bust out a jungle Alistar - seems to be getting fashionable again.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Jammer_
Profile Joined January 2012
United States2 Posts
January 21 2012 16:49 GMT
#2240
m5 vs tsm will be a great match. It will be the first top team m5 plays, sk being gimped, and dignitas is knocking on the door but I don't consider them a top team yet. tsm will have had some time to study m5's playstyle. TheOddOne is such a great jungler, tsm will fight hard for their buffs.

Phreak's casting annoys me to the point I want to mute the stream. Too much jibber jabber. And on screen his hands make it worse.
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