• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:39
CET 14:39
KST 22:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea How much money terran looses from gas steal? mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
How do SEO tools help improve website rankings and Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1670 users

[IEM] Gamescom Discussion - Page 16

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 210 Next
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#301
nerf wriggles?

but real, triple wriggles in the team is real nice, those 3 free wards constantly should not be underestimated.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#302
Why anyone would try to mid as Anivia vs Zilean is beyond me. Back when I mained Anivia, my worst start was vs a really good Zilean. Zilean utterly rofltstomps an anivia of similar or less skill. As soon as I saw that matchup in mid, I knew the anivia was going to be utterly worthless in the match.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#303
On August 19 2011 00:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:24 emucxg wrote:
is she kelly? LOOOOL


uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc.


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones


wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;

No. Kelly up
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#304
On August 19 2011 00:25 Slayer91 wrote:
You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.


It'll be interesting to see how Chaox plays once TSM is out of the group stage. You can obviously tell he's playing with reckless abandon, just Rocket Jumping in at a whim and Flashing out if the situation gets too bad.

But yeah, with all that life steal, definitely can play more aggro. Instead of the IE build of sitting behind all day, turning on Q, pewpewpew.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 18 2011 15:29 GMT
#305
On August 19 2011 00:26 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind have Kelly as the interviewer? And that too for LoL.

Not amused.


Because she is immensely popular in the SEA audiences, and happens to speak english(albeit, with a very heavy accent, but it's actually good fluent english).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:30 GMT
#306
For LoL? For Dota2 I would have understood.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:31 GMT
#307
millenium and TSM are qualified but nevertheless i hope they show a good match
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:32 GMT
#308
Ok, no moar Kelly talk. Thanks.
It's rarely a positive issue when she's brought up in LR threads. >_>

On August 19 2011 00:28 NEOtheONE wrote:
Why anyone would try to mid as Anivia vs Zilean is beyond me. Back when I mained Anivia, my worst start was vs a really good Zilean. Zilean utterly rofltstomps an anivia of similar or less skill. As soon as I saw that matchup in mid, I knew the anivia was going to be utterly worthless in the match.


Well, Zilean was a counterpick to Anivia, since Alternate picked her first. She could've gone top instead but I doubt she's fare any better vs Udyr. Mid vs Zilean... Cass or Kass perhaps.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 15:34 GMT
#309
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:35 GMT
#310
On August 19 2011 00:34 Mogwai wrote:
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.


Until you die. Then you have to afk for 5 minutes while your team derps around so you can get your stacks back. Definitely the downside to BT. Otherwise :D
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#311
TSM counter picked well, mid lane was in their favor and top lane, well, the current meta being what it is, if you don't have a bruiser there, it's going to be tough.

Would have loved to see some Cass play though. Still hoping one of these matches Oriana isn't banned :D
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:38 GMT
#312
On August 19 2011 00:36 daemir wrote:
TSM counter picked well, mid lane was in their favor and top lane, well, the current meta being what it is, if you don't have a bruiser there, it's going to be tough.

Would have loved to see some Cass play though. Still hoping one of these matches Oriana isn't banned :D


Regi doesn't Cass afaik. I think it's one of the few AP champions he doesn't toy around with.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#313
On August 19 2011 00:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:34 Mogwai wrote:
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.


Until you die. Then you have to afk for 5 minutes while your team derps around so you can get your stacks back. Definitely the downside to BT. Otherwise :D

60 Ad and 15% lifesteal is nothing to laugh at, especially when you consider that you get it ~800 gold faster than an IE.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#314
On August 19 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:25 Slayer91 wrote:
You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.


It'll be interesting to see how Chaox plays once TSM is out of the group stage. You can obviously tell he's playing with reckless abandon, just Rocket Jumping in at a whim and Flashing out if the situation gets too bad.

But yeah, with all that life steal, definitely can play more aggro. Instead of the IE build of sitting behind all day, turning on Q, pewpewpew.

You also HAVE to play more aggressively since quite obviously IE provides you with superiour DPS.
However I'd argue that it's a bad choice when you already have Wriggle's.
Obviously if you have an important fight coming up and you can only afford a BT and maybe an elix but no IE, things change.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:42 GMT
#315
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:43 GMT
#316
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:44 GMT
#317
On August 19 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.

Not gonna argue with that. She is fun to play and dominated almost every one. (except Kass and Brand)
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:51 GMT
#318
Everybody was saying fiddle is TOP tier, that he is op (even if i dont think he is), and in 4 games he was banned once and not taken at all, ....

AS for me i dont think he is op, i mean they just changed his ultimate channeling to 1.5 from 2 and now he is considered op ???
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#319
On August 19 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.

I think LeBlanc actually does better at raping other mages, which is the most important thing to be able to do as an AP solo right now.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#320
On August 19 2011 00:51 trollbone wrote:
Everybody was saying fiddle is TOP tier, that he is op (even if i dont think he is), and in 4 games he was banned once and not taken at all, ....

AS for me i dont think he is op, i mean they just changed his ultimate channeling to 1.5 from 2 and now he is considered op ???

He stomps solo q because the only way to deal with him is to be super coordinated. A real team can deal with him decently enough, but a good fidds against an uncoordinated team will end up destroying.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 210 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
King of the Hill #242
Liquipedia
WardiTV Team League
12:00
Group A
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
WardiTV612
TKL 162
IndyStarCraft 117
Rex104
3DClanTV 48
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 162
SortOf 129
ProTech124
IndyStarCraft 117
Rex 104
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38179
Sea 2947
Bisu 1907
Calm 1832
EffOrt 823
Mini 693
BeSt 576
firebathero 390
Rush 311
Larva 290
[ Show more ]
Snow 271
Last 182
ggaemo 169
Soma 164
Soulkey 133
ZerO 106
Backho 90
Pusan 69
hero 57
Sea.KH 53
sSak 52
ToSsGirL 49
[sc1f]eonzerg 49
HiyA 42
Free 35
Shinee 35
Barracks 30
Bale 25
sorry 24
zelot 21
Hm[arnc] 20
soO 20
GoRush 17
Shine 15
Terrorterran 12
Rock 10
SilentControl 9
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4533
BananaSlamJamma339
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1425
kennyS526
x6flipin442
markeloff134
edward91
Other Games
singsing1973
hiko530
B2W.Neo487
crisheroes285
Lowko258
Fuzer 157
Hui .129
KnowMe105
Sick96
Mew2King87
ZerO(Twitch)18
DeMusliM4
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH329
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade506
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 21m
Replay Cast
10h 21m
WardiTV Team League
22h 21m
Big Brain Bouts
1d 3h
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
1d 20h
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
1d 22h
Platinum Heroes Events
2 days
BSL
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
OSC
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-25
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.