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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#301
nerf wriggles?

but real, triple wriggles in the team is real nice, those 3 free wards constantly should not be underestimated.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#302
Why anyone would try to mid as Anivia vs Zilean is beyond me. Back when I mained Anivia, my worst start was vs a really good Zilean. Zilean utterly rofltstomps an anivia of similar or less skill. As soon as I saw that matchup in mid, I knew the anivia was going to be utterly worthless in the match.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#303
On August 19 2011 00:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:24 emucxg wrote:
is she kelly? LOOOOL


uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc.


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones


wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;

No. Kelly up
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:28 GMT
#304
On August 19 2011 00:25 Slayer91 wrote:
You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.


It'll be interesting to see how Chaox plays once TSM is out of the group stage. You can obviously tell he's playing with reckless abandon, just Rocket Jumping in at a whim and Flashing out if the situation gets too bad.

But yeah, with all that life steal, definitely can play more aggro. Instead of the IE build of sitting behind all day, turning on Q, pewpewpew.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 18 2011 15:29 GMT
#305
On August 19 2011 00:26 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Why would anyone in their right mind have Kelly as the interviewer? And that too for LoL.

Not amused.


Because she is immensely popular in the SEA audiences, and happens to speak english(albeit, with a very heavy accent, but it's actually good fluent english).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:30 GMT
#306
For LoL? For Dota2 I would have understood.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:31 GMT
#307
millenium and TSM are qualified but nevertheless i hope they show a good match
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:32 GMT
#308
Ok, no moar Kelly talk. Thanks.
It's rarely a positive issue when she's brought up in LR threads. >_>

On August 19 2011 00:28 NEOtheONE wrote:
Why anyone would try to mid as Anivia vs Zilean is beyond me. Back when I mained Anivia, my worst start was vs a really good Zilean. Zilean utterly rofltstomps an anivia of similar or less skill. As soon as I saw that matchup in mid, I knew the anivia was going to be utterly worthless in the match.


Well, Zilean was a counterpick to Anivia, since Alternate picked her first. She could've gone top instead but I doubt she's fare any better vs Udyr. Mid vs Zilean... Cass or Kass perhaps.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 15:34 GMT
#309
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:35 GMT
#310
On August 19 2011 00:34 Mogwai wrote:
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.


Until you die. Then you have to afk for 5 minutes while your team derps around so you can get your stacks back. Definitely the downside to BT. Otherwise :D
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:36 GMT
#311
TSM counter picked well, mid lane was in their favor and top lane, well, the current meta being what it is, if you don't have a bruiser there, it's going to be tough.

Would have loved to see some Cass play though. Still hoping one of these matches Oriana isn't banned :D
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:38 GMT
#312
On August 19 2011 00:36 daemir wrote:
TSM counter picked well, mid lane was in their favor and top lane, well, the current meta being what it is, if you don't have a bruiser there, it's going to be tough.

Would have loved to see some Cass play though. Still hoping one of these matches Oriana isn't banned :D


Regi doesn't Cass afaik. I think it's one of the few AP champions he doesn't toy around with.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#313
On August 19 2011 00:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:34 Mogwai wrote:
I like BT > IE on literally everyone right now btw. Granted, I'm not a great ranged carry player, but being able to heal yourself up is awesome.


Until you die. Then you have to afk for 5 minutes while your team derps around so you can get your stacks back. Definitely the downside to BT. Otherwise :D

60 Ad and 15% lifesteal is nothing to laugh at, especially when you consider that you get it ~800 gold faster than an IE.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#314
On August 19 2011 00:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:25 Slayer91 wrote:
You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.


It'll be interesting to see how Chaox plays once TSM is out of the group stage. You can obviously tell he's playing with reckless abandon, just Rocket Jumping in at a whim and Flashing out if the situation gets too bad.

But yeah, with all that life steal, definitely can play more aggro. Instead of the IE build of sitting behind all day, turning on Q, pewpewpew.

You also HAVE to play more aggressively since quite obviously IE provides you with superiour DPS.
However I'd argue that it's a bad choice when you already have Wriggle's.
Obviously if you have an important fight coming up and you can only afford a BT and maybe an elix but no IE, things change.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:42 GMT
#315
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:43 GMT
#316
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:44 GMT
#317
On August 19 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.

Not gonna argue with that. She is fun to play and dominated almost every one. (except Kass and Brand)
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:51 GMT
#318
Everybody was saying fiddle is TOP tier, that he is op (even if i dont think he is), and in 4 games he was banned once and not taken at all, ....

AS for me i dont think he is op, i mean they just changed his ultimate channeling to 1.5 from 2 and now he is considered op ???
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#319
On August 19 2011 00:43 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:42 SHr3DD3r wrote:
Yea he isn't confident with her. Saw him trying her out a few times but he wasn't doing so well.
So I highly doubt we will be seeing Cass from either of US teams.

SK has been picking her alot though.

Cass #1 ap laner in the game atm IMO.

I think LeBlanc actually does better at raping other mages, which is the most important thing to be able to do as an AP solo right now.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:52 GMT
#320
On August 19 2011 00:51 trollbone wrote:
Everybody was saying fiddle is TOP tier, that he is op (even if i dont think he is), and in 4 games he was banned once and not taken at all, ....

AS for me i dont think he is op, i mean they just changed his ultimate channeling to 1.5 from 2 and now he is considered op ???

He stomps solo q because the only way to deal with him is to be super coordinated. A real team can deal with him decently enough, but a good fidds against an uncoordinated team will end up destroying.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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