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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#281
On August 19 2011 00:14 Slayer91 wrote:
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On August 19 2011 00:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this 3 wriggles strat looking ridiculous op


What? Wriggles is just super good for sustaining but I don't think it's all that powerful if you don't have 50% more gold than their team..

Udyr is a lot better when you have zilean and gp ult to race into fights.


the faster and earlier drags and baron is good too imo
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
August 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#282
On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD.


Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries.

Taric, Soraka => IE
ifelse => BT

So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:18 GMT
#283
I expect to see much more BTs than IEs after the supports get their heals nerfed or the ranged ADs will just get replaced by another bruiser..unless Dominion hits in before all that and becomes the norm for competitions.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:20 GMT
#284
I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:20 GMT
#285
On August 19 2011 00:18 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD.


Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries.

Taric, Soraka => IE
ifelse => BT

So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?


This is just a general guideline. I still get IE on Trist/Ashe without fail. They just autoattack so much.

But for Cait/MF/Vayne, I use the reasoning from above.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:21 GMT
#286
On August 19 2011 00:18 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD.


Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries.

Taric, Soraka => IE
ifelse => BT

So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?


I'd say that would depends on your team, does the team stick well together, giving you the protection you need, how well you are able to kite, how many leaping/teleporting/dashing bruisers their team has. If your team has a very strong initiation like amumu and you feel you are safe to do your thing from range, go IE. If you feel like you're gonna be taking some stray damage then BT.

If you get simply run over by bruisers/jungler when no one in your team protects you, pick something else than ashe :\
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:21 GMT
#287
On August 19 2011 00:20 Crucifix wrote:
I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective.


PD > Zeal Zeal
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22525 Posts
August 18 2011 15:21 GMT
#288
For solo Q id still go IE tyCe. You wont have a team protecting you as much and if your dying regularly and losing stacks BT becomes a lot less attractive.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 18 2011 15:22 GMT
#289
On August 19 2011 00:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:20 Crucifix wrote:
I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective.


PD > Zeal Zeal

I always go double Zeal then turn them into double PD but hey, that's me :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
August 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#290
hahaha regi has no idea what happens :D:D

it's all chaox!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#291
Hear that. Chaox TSM mastermind. Regi just there to be aggressive.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#292
Quality questions right here
Moderator
g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
August 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#293
Regi is #1
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#294
On August 19 2011 00:23 Beyonder wrote:
Quality questions right here


huehue, dat Kelly. zzz
no comment.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
August 18 2011 15:24 GMT
#295
is she kelly? LOOOOL
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#296
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 15:26:35
August 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#297
On August 19 2011 00:24 emucxg wrote:
is she kelly? LOOOOL


uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc.


On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones


wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23342 Posts
August 18 2011 15:25 GMT
#298
You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 18 2011 15:26 GMT
#299
On August 19 2011 00:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:24 emucxg wrote:
is she kelly? LOOOOL


uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc.


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones


wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;


Kelly is a HON player. Wtf happened
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 18 2011 15:26 GMT
#300
Why would anyone in their right mind have Kelly as the interviewer? And that too for LoL.

Not amused.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
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