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On August 19 2011 00:14 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
this 3 wriggles strat looking ridiculous op What? Wriggles is just super good for sustaining but I don't think it's all that powerful if you don't have 50% more gold than their team.. Udyr is a lot better when you have zilean and gp ult to race into fights.
the faster and earlier drags and baron is good too imo
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On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD. Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries. Taric, Soraka => IE ifelse => BT
So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?
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I expect to see much more BTs than IEs after the supports get their heals nerfed or the ranged ADs will just get replaced by another bruiser..unless Dominion hits in before all that and becomes the norm for competitions.
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I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective.
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On August 19 2011 00:18 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD. Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries. Taric, Soraka => IE ifelse => BT So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?
This is just a general guideline. I still get IE on Trist/Ashe without fail. They just autoattack so much.
But for Cait/MF/Vayne, I use the reasoning from above.
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On August 19 2011 00:18 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:16 NeoIllusions wrote:On August 19 2011 00:13 daemir wrote:
Yes Wriggles-BT works very well on a team where your support isn't soraka.
Not to mention wriggles early simply gives you anything you need to lane against another AD. Definitely. This is pretty much my reasoning for BF Sword builds on my carries. Taric, Soraka => IE ifelse => BT So what about for Ashe in solo queue and its happens that nobody picks a support? I've just been rushing IE all this time, but should I consider BT when w/o heals instead?
I'd say that would depends on your team, does the team stick well together, giving you the protection you need, how well you are able to kite, how many leaping/teleporting/dashing bruisers their team has. If your team has a very strong initiation like amumu and you feel you are safe to do your thing from range, go IE. If you feel like you're gonna be taking some stray damage then BT.
If you get simply run over by bruisers/jungler when no one in your team protects you, pick something else than ashe :\
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On August 19 2011 00:20 Crucifix wrote:
I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective.
PD > Zeal Zeal
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For solo Q id still go IE tyCe. You wont have a team protecting you as much and if your dying regularly and losing stacks BT becomes a lot less attractive.
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On August 19 2011 00:21 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:20 Crucifix wrote:
I'm almost always going IE on AD ranged, suits me better. I like going IE > zeal > zeal > PD > PD > LW, that's like my super standard Ashe/MF build and it's super effective. PD > Zeal Zeal
I always go double Zeal then turn them into double PD but hey, that's me :D
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hahaha regi has no idea what happens :D:D
it's all chaox!
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Hear that. Chaox TSM mastermind. Regi just there to be aggressive.
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On August 19 2011 00:23 Beyonder wrote:Quality questions right here 
huehue, dat Kelly. zzz
no comment.
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I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones
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On August 19 2011 00:24 emucxg wrote:
is she kelly? LOOOOL
uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc.
On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones
wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;
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You have to realize that having nearly 50% lifesteal on tristana allows you to rocket jump much more agressively and play a lot different from a typical ashe with infinity edge.
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On August 19 2011 00:25 NeoIllusions wrote:uh, not jiji's Kelly. But KellyMilkies, SC/DotA caster from the Phillipines iirc. Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 00:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
I was gonna say something but I decided that we didnt need to do to the lol lr threads what happens to the sc2 ones wat? Wriggle's imbal? -o-;
Kelly is a HON player. Wtf happened
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Why would anyone in their right mind have Kelly as the interviewer? And that too for LoL.
Not amused.
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