I'd agree that in a full six item build you probably don't want more than one pure defense item. But some of the defensive boot options could potentially be solid on certain ADs or against the right team comps and getting your tank item after two damage items isn't going to put you drastically behind your opponent.
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I'd agree that in a full six item build you probably don't want more than one pure defense item. But some of the defensive boot options could potentially be solid on certain ADs or against the right team comps and getting your tank item after two damage items isn't going to put you drastically behind your opponent. | ||
Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On February 14 2013 09:05 kainzero wrote: i'm slumping pretty hard lately and my laning phase has gone from awful to god awful, but my mid-game/late-game has still been decent if i can get there. when i'm ADC and i'm behind, which is almost always the case, i try to farm up as hard as possible. generally when bot lane tower falls, the enemy bot lane will start wandering to other lanes. ward up your side of the map and start farming. (if you have to buy your own wards, buy them.) tell your support to go help other lanes. don't freeze your lane, push it and then take jungle farm. even if you're behind, you need to play your best to not fall behind even farther. for the rest of the team, what helps is that the entire team needs to play with the mentality that it will be 4v5 to get their ADC back online. warding is probably the most important aspect; you never want to engage in small skirmishes unless you are sure that no one will come to reinforce, and wards can also set up or prevent devastating ambushes, and all the other heroes except adc should be buying them. 1-for-1 trades are no longer worth it, so don't go for kills unless you can get 2 or you can reasonably expect to live after the fight. sometimes you can't do anything, but at least try your best. I think I may have just broken a brutal slump last night, finally. The worst part is, I've been winning lanes pretty handily. One of the problems, I believe, is that I'm queuing with two friends, who are lower ELO than myself. Perhaps they're playing against better opponents, etc. Here's how things have been happening for the last two weeks: I play ADC or mid, and handily win my lane (or sometimes at mid, its a passive tie). One of the lanes I'm not in loses, and the other one feeds badly... say 1/5/0 in the laning phase. Once we enter the lategame, the opposing team knows I'm the only source of significant damage, and tunnels me into the ground, cleaning up my team easily after I'm dead. Reading this thread actually helped- even though I was way ahead of the opposing ADC in items, I had to REALLY stay out of teamfights in order to make a difference. As in, wait until the engage had already happened, Q+AA as graves or mf, then get out of LoS, then repeat. I was literally having to bush dance every single auto attack- however, I ended up cleaning up handily. | ||
mockturtle
United States220 Posts
On February 15 2013 01:59 Crownlol wrote: This is a massive problem with Ashe and Ezreal bads, especially. They ONLY use their abilities, then run away, landing no autoattacks at any point during a teamfight. Overall dps so low at that point. I always associated this with Ezraels and Caitlyns (probably because caitlyn's Q takes so damn long). In general, ADCs that never auto attack are a pretty sad sight to see but it became extinct to my eyes >1300. I always guessed it was people who never peel for the adc on another role & rarely see peel for them. It can be a bit frustrating to step in and be the one to peel and blow all your cooldowns only to watch the adc keep on running and the enemy turn around and bite your face off :p | ||
sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 14 2013 10:43 krndandaman wrote: well yeah, that's if you're a little behind. he was talking about going 0-9-4 or something ridiculous. that's not being a 'little' behind lol. thats just being relatively bad (or just bad lol) I've gone from around 1-7-4 to 10-7-lots, more than once, and carried to victory. (Then again, I find that I position better in teamfights but I need to work on my laning) My only point is, not every ADC with a severely negative KD ratio at the 15 minute mark is complete garbage. | ||
sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On February 15 2013 05:45 nafta wrote: Going defensive items on ad isn't really worth it.Unless you are stomping you should never get more than a giant's belt or qss before you have ie(bt)/zeal/lw at least.Unless you are vayne or kog you will do 0 dmg.Better positioning is always the answer.Yes there are some champions which force you to get defensive items but with barrier you should be able to handle it. The guys recommending going mallet are wrong.Never go mallet when you are BEHIND(or ever tbh).Like do you want to do less dmg than a supp?My biggest advice to anyone playing is just to cs well and position well.If you get defensive items you don't do dmg so you just have to compensate by being good. Mallet's a good item on ADC... AFTER your offensive core. It's an item to get when you're the THREAT, not when you're 1-7 with only a BT to your name. Also, if someone can't stutterstep as ADC in the first place, mallet isn't going to do much. You have to be constantly moving to take advantage of it, but it's helped me go from "I do tons of damage but getting focused too hard and I can't kite all this" to "Now I carry this game" | ||
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