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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
May 22 2013 12:45 GMT
#1101
the only coordination that I saw working was when we went all mid (cayt, herm with smith, etc) + nasus (or was it olaf) top when played vs 5 other random ppl (was was queuing).

That was fun.
n_n
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 17:04:24
May 22 2013 17:03 GMT
#1102
On May 22 2013 12:55 necrosed wrote:
I'm requesting some studies in Low Economy Games. I'm implementing low-econ strategies here in Brazil, but the amount of practice we get with them is low. I need more conclusions from it.So far we've been dominating the scene with it, but I want to know when people struggle with it.
The basic idea is: Pressure a lot early. Swap lanes in the beggining if you're on red side or against a tough laning situation (say, Kassadin vs a mage). Your jungler must be really strong early game and good at dueling (Lee Sin is probably the best).
After the first tower falls, your team starts moving as two cells: Top + Jungler and Mid+Bot. Generally, you have strong disengages so you can slowly damage towers.
Support don't build any GP/5. You go straight to Sightstone + Oracle's. You starve the enemy team from their jungle gold by invading and dominating map vision.
A sample composition would be: Top Jayce, Jungle Lee Sin, mid Nidalee, bot Caitlyn + Janna.
I want your thoughts and experiments in this.

This may not be able to go perfect in testing labs, as it requires a senior team coordination skills, so lets start at least with an open debate about this.
I'm concerned that global strategies are a direct counter to this, but I want to know other weaknesses and strengths. By leaving your thoughts below you are helping BR e-Sports! :D


I am wondering how well an Ashe with Clairvoyance might do in this strat. With her Hawkshot and Clair, the enemy jungle could be lit up at a fairly constant rate and this might allow the support to go with something other than sightstone that might be more team beneficial.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 22 2013 18:10 GMT
#1103
CV is pretty useless because ideally you're applying so much pressure the jungler can't even afford to jungle. Ashe is a problematic choice because she doesn't have very good pushing/sieging power early, and early is when you need everything.

It's really not a coincidence that VES picked both Ezreal and Varus when they did this. Both have decent steroids in their passives and Ezreal even has an attack speed buff. When it comes to taking down a tower fast you can't beat that.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 23 2013 05:14 GMT
#1104
I think Tristana is also a good option for this strat. Great tower pushing with her steroid, long range and huge disengage, and also gives you a late game hypercarry you can fall back on.

Not too sure how her laning is with Janna though.

We need to bring back Annie bot lanes. I'm convinced they're amazing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 23 2013 05:37 GMT
#1105
On May 21 2013 13:31 rwrzr wrote:
Can you pick up a creep as syndra and thresh lantern away? Im thinking one of the buffs.


Yes you can. And once you've dropped it, the buff will slowly walk back regenerating health all the way. You could invade and steal the enemy blue with that.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 23 2013 16:34 GMT
#1106
On May 23 2013 14:14 Ketara wrote:
I think Tristana is also a good option for this strat. Great tower pushing with her steroid, long range and huge disengage, and also gives you a late game hypercarry you can fall back on.

Not too sure how her laning is with Janna though.

We need to bring back Annie bot lanes. I'm convinced they're amazing.


I don't like Tristana for this strategy because all those advantages don't come into play fast enough. Eventually Tristana can mow down towers from orbit, but this strategy needs 100% pressure from the getgo. In the game I mentioned before Nientonsoh had Lulu support for his Tristana and maxed his Q first for tower pushing, but despite that simply couldn't push as fast as VES. I'd much rather have Caitlyn, Corki, or another carry with strong wave clear if Varus/Ezreal aren't available.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 24 2013 21:46 GMT
#1107
So are we doing something today Monte?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 24 2013 22:34 GMT
#1108
Apologies, nothing official happening today. Between Allstars and a 6 AM flight tomorrow things slipped away from me.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
May 26 2013 06:15 GMT
#1109
Jungle Gragas being played in Allstars Grand Finals. Guess it's legit.
Whaaaa?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 26 2013 07:04 GMT
#1110
On May 26 2013 15:15 Misder wrote:
Jungle Gragas being played in Allstars Grand Finals. Guess it's legit.

I think Korea just outclassed China pretty hard in all respects tbh
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
May 26 2013 09:21 GMT
#1111
On May 26 2013 16:04 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 15:15 Misder wrote:
Jungle Gragas being played in Allstars Grand Finals. Guess it's legit.

I think Korea just outclassed China pretty hard in all respects tbh

Careful with spoilers please!
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 26 2013 10:24 GMT
#1112
On May 26 2013 15:15 Misder wrote:
Jungle Gragas being played in Allstars Grand Finals. Guess it's legit.

Does this mean my team wont yell at me in champion select when I pick Gragas for jungling now?

Is this where I put in those fancy hashtag hipster and such phrases?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 26 2013 16:04 GMT
#1113
No, now you'll be called a wannabe and copycat and told that "just because the pros did it doesn't mean you can" by some. Others will accept it and begin doing it cause the pros did it because "if the pros did it then it must be good."
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 31 2013 21:00 GMT
#1114
FYI I will not be able to consistently organize TROLLS tests for the foreseeable future. The next few Fridays are going to be swallowed up by moving, family reunions and the like, and I'm not likely to get less busy as summer arrives.

As such, I advise that the board of directors meet and appoint a new Chairman. I will still try to be involved, I just can't consistently be the organizer for this anymore.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 31 2013 21:51 GMT
#1115
Jungle Gragas is really frakking hard. I play mid Gragas pretty competently, and I feel like using him in the jungle is a whole new ballgame. The margin for error is slim. I think you need a pretty specific team comp for it to be effective too (or worthwhile at least).

I still don't know how Insec made it look so easy.
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
May 31 2013 22:37 GMT
#1116
How about testing the best proxy singed teamcomps? as well as the best way to counter.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 03 2013 15:39 GMT
#1117
do you write down your results somewhere?
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 03 2013 21:12 GMT
#1118
We mostly just post our post-testing thoughts here and discuss them. There's no index thereof, though it's been requested in the past.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
June 07 2013 15:08 GMT
#1119
I had two ranked games recently where we had a Nunu jungle do a 2 man baron before 20 mins. One of them it was Nunu and me on Renekton top, he came up at 16-17 minutes like he was ganking top, we forced the enemy top laner to back, and then we just went and killed baron. He tanked it with just a spirit of the spectral wraith.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 07 2013 17:10 GMT
#1120
LET THERE BE TROLLS.

I may not be able to make exactly 22:00 GMT (+00:00) as usual, but I should be able to organize things tonight. We still really need someone else for that role, however, as I definitely won't be able to run this for the next couple of weeks.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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