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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23578 Posts
November 03 2015 12:26 GMT
#21
Well I have a few friends that had no interest in HotS, who preordered LotV. In general the hype level for this game seems way higher than for HotS, with archon mode, coop missions and the way bigger multiplayer changes compared to HotS.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
weikor
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria580 Posts
November 03 2015 13:03 GMT
#22
i preordered becuase theres no difference in spending the money at release, or pre order. I just ended up with a hots hero, early beta access and a few prequel campaign missions.

Even though im not too happy with blizzards approach at balancing multiplayer, the game is still worth its money for the campaign / funmaps / allied commander and the casual 1on1.

JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17517 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 13:32:13
November 03 2015 13:28 GMT
#23
On November 03 2015 21:26 Musicus wrote:
Well I have a few friends that had no interest in HotS, who preordered LotV. In general the hype level for this game seems way higher than for HotS, with archon mode, coop missions and the way bigger multiplayer changes compared to HotS.


good points here.
ATVI in pulling every strategic lever in the book in order to drive up pre-orders.
it wasn't just ATVI's marketing muscle ... it was very careful thinking and solid execution of a marketing plan. 1 example, is the timing of the release of the 3 prologue missions.

shout out to ATVI and their marketing genius.

On November 03 2015 14:49 Dracover wrote:
I love this kind of stuff cause it tell you a lot of what they spend their money on.

So for every $1 you pay to them
32 cents is profit
32 cents is to actually produce what they're selling you
14 cents is to pay for the development of their next game
22 cents is marketing sales and other "company stuff"

or in other words
46 cents is for producing what your buying/what you might buy
54 cents is for stuff the customer doesn't value.

EDIT: If only you can see this buy product.


Blizzard transformed from Morhaime having to build his own desk into a company with 1000s of employees by spending 54% of their revenue on stuff their customer does not value.

reductio ad absurdum
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
November 03 2015 13:34 GMT
#24
On November 03 2015 14:39 ETisME wrote:
I wonder how many bought the game for early release of artanis in heroes of the storm

Haha, that's me! I play sc2 pretty casually and bought hots soon after release I think. I planned to do the same with lotv, but as I play a bit of heroes as well I figured I could just as well pre-order and get the hero.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
November 03 2015 13:48 GMT
#25
Good to hear for Blizz and Sc2. I didnt pre-order because i am not sure yet if i want to spend 40€ just on the singleplayer. And i'll buy for campaign only, maybe i wait for some time and pick it up next year.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
November 03 2015 14:19 GMT
#26
I am curious how LotV pre-orders are doing in Korea.
T P Z sagi
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 03 2015 14:32 GMT
#27
I preordered because I want CE and once I was able to order it I ordered. Which reminds me it is time to find the payment and print it so they can give it to me

I haven't played the missions and I had the beta before. I will play missions the day before release and beta was lagging for me atrociously so I couldn't play it
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
November 03 2015 14:45 GMT
#28
Once again ATVI achieves better-than-expected results for Q3, as well as continuing to crush net revenues.

On November 03 2015 22:28 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 21:26 Musicus wrote:
Well I have a few friends that had no interest in HotS, who preordered LotV. In general the hype level for this game seems way higher than for HotS, with archon mode, coop missions and the way bigger multiplayer changes compared to HotS.

good points here.
ATVI in pulling every strategic lever in the book in order to drive up pre-orders.
it wasn't just ATVI's marketing muscle ... it was very careful thinking and solid execution of a marketing plan. 1 example, is the timing of the release of the 3 prologue missions.

shout out to ATVI and their marketing genius.


+1, they have done really well in marketing. The SC2 trilogy reminds me more and more of a cliche movie trilogy. The first is always good, not necessarily great. The second is meh but passable, and the third brings out all the stops and cements it's "Legacy"
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17517 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 14:55:52
November 03 2015 14:48 GMT
#29
in the Superman, Spiderman and Batman Begins trilogies it was #2 that was the best.
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Pentarp
Profile Joined August 2015
227 Posts
November 03 2015 14:54 GMT
#30
The people (their wallets) have spoken!
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
November 03 2015 15:01 GMT
#31
On November 03 2015 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the Superman, Spiderman and Batman Begins trilogies it was #2 that was the best.

The Godfather Part II as well ^.
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monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
November 03 2015 15:09 GMT
#32
all my friends aren't buying the game which is depressing. I only got it to complete the campaign...not sure if i'll play any multiplayer. I'm so bored with Hearthstone nowadays so it can't be worse.
@ggmonx
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
November 03 2015 15:44 GMT
#33
On November 04 2015 00:01 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the Superman, Spiderman and Batman Begins trilogies it was #2 that was the best.

The Godfather Part II as well ^.

I would add Terminator II and Aliens. Also Empire Strikes Back.

Not sure if these now applies as trilogies because someone ruined it by making more movies
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 15:58:33
November 03 2015 15:53 GMT
#34
I'm not buying it, shame to see it's not going to matter. At this point I can't help to feel like this is yet another instance that tells devs and publishers that once you have a good franchise, you can afford to get complacent with little negative impact on your sales figures.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 16:05:00
November 03 2015 16:03 GMT
#35
On November 04 2015 00:53 Djzapz wrote:
I'm not buying it, shame to see it's not going to matter. At this point I can't help to feel like this is yet another instance that tells devs and publishers that once you have a good franchise, you can afford to get complacent with little negative impact on your sales figures.


If you tell me they got complacent with HotS, I would agree, but LotV is on a completely different level. They put tons of new features, real multiplayer changes and a lot of work into the game.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2633 Posts
November 03 2015 16:09 GMT
#36
On November 03 2015 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the Superman, Spiderman and Batman Begins trilogies it was #2 that was the best.

So by that logic... Starcraft II > Starcraft 1?
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Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 16:15:37
November 03 2015 16:12 GMT
#37
I will just say that all the money I have spent in Blizzard games has ALWAYS been money well spent. I don't mind what they do with my money, I don't mind if they waste it in hookers and coke or a new private jet for David Kim.

For all the hours of fun and joy they brought into my spare time, the hookers are all on me. Keep it coming.

I did preorder the game for two main reasons. One, to get access to the preorder missions. (I already got the beta when they released the preorder purchase) and to get access to Artanis in HotS. Considering the hours of play I enjoyed with artanis the release week, and the fun I had with the three pre campaing missions, I consider the preorder bonuses totally satisfying.

Now I'm waiting for a new campaign, more features and more balance updates.

I'm glad StarCraft 2 doesn't have hour counter like in Steam games... because it will surely show over 2 or 3 thousands.

Money well spent.

On November 04 2015 01:09 Brutaxilos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 23:48 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
in the Superman, Spiderman and Batman Begins trilogies it was #2 that was the best.

So by that logic... Starcraft II > Starcraft 1?

Well, if you are not a super korean mastermind, yes, Starcraft 2 is much better than Starcraft 1 at all levels. The only bad thing about Starcraft 2 is that the plot is much more brighter and it lost the dark of the original one.

But other than that, the campaign missions, the UI, the newbie help, the arcade, the MM, the graphics, the mechanics, everything is better.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 16:24:21
November 03 2015 16:19 GMT
#38
On November 04 2015 01:03 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 00:53 Djzapz wrote:
I'm not buying it, shame to see it's not going to matter. At this point I can't help to feel like this is yet another instance that tells devs and publishers that once you have a good franchise, you can afford to get complacent with little negative impact on your sales figures.


If you tell me they got complacent with HotS, I would agree, but LotV is on a completely different level. They put tons of new features, real multiplayer changes and a lot of work into the game.

I think many of the new features were just conspicuously absent from the previous versions of the game. Adding them just made up for the previous shortcomings, including those of HotS. I'll say it's not hard to add features to a game which released years ago without chat, with an incredibly barebones custom games platform, without clans, without the ability to reconnect to games, without automated tournaments... without much, really. And the few innovative features that are coming up IMO don't make up for what I personally view as glaring design flaws that undermine the game. That being said, here is not the place to discuss those things in any more detail. It's just my personal opinion on this.

With how heavily criticized the game is, and with how much videogaming journalists have been talking about preordering is bad, it makes me sad that there are a lot of LotV preorders.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
November 03 2015 16:22 GMT
#39
Preordered it. No particular reason pretty much other than the fact I want to play right at midnight when it goes live.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 17:09:52
November 03 2015 17:08 GMT
#40
On November 04 2015 01:12 Eviscerador wrote:
Well, if you are not a super korean mastermind, yes, Starcraft 2 is much better than Starcraft 1 at all levels. The only bad thing about Starcraft 2 is that the plot is much more brighter and it lost the dark of the original one.

But other than that, the campaign missions, the UI, the newbie help, the arcade, the MM, the graphics, the mechanics, everything is better.


lmao. Everything relating to gameplay is MILES better in brood war ( I even started with Sc2 and switched to brood war after finding the former a massive disappointment). The arcade is horrible, can't even give a custom name to your game to give it some identity. MM = macro mechanics? Right.. everybody loves those. Brood war's graphics are even better than Sc2's. I'll elaborate:
- Sc2's graphics are shit on any setting other than ultra.
- Sc2's graphics are a cartoony mess, same with Sc2's models (infestors, vipers, protoss ball units or terran's flying shoes (liberator)).
- Brood war's graphics are always great (there's no settings)
- Brood war's models are vicious, creative, distinctive.

Sc2's sounds and voices are also a HUGE letdown.
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