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qxc's thoughts: Patch 2.5.3 Review - Page 3

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404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
August 30 2015 17:56 GMT
#41
On July 31 2015 02:08 phantomfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 23:26 ShambhalaWar wrote:
For example, remove the inject mechanic, remove forcefields, drastic change to warp or remove it etc... maybe these are not the best examples of what to change, but I want them to change more of what people believe are the "core" issues of the game (of which economy probably still is one :/).

I like the inject mechanic, I like forcefields, I like warp gate.....there's nothing in HOTS that is totally broken, like we saw at the end of WOL with BL/Infestor.

Seriously, look at the amazing games it continues to produce:


HOTS is good enough that it doesn't need a complete overhaul, it needs tweaks.

This game actually looks god aweful. Deathball vs Deathball and both sides dont want to engage because one fight takes it all!
aka Kalevi
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
September 01 2015 15:18 GMT
#42
The problem with 2.5.3 and the economy change made is that the game is very poorly balanced around it.

Zerg had their macro mechanics automated and nerfed, whereas Terran and Protoss had theirs (MULEs and Chrono Boosts respectively) outright removed from the game. Hell, Protoss was the only race to have some research times reduced to compensate for the Chrono Boost nerf whereas Terran had nothing.

Does it therefore, not surprise me that the game is heavily Zerg-favoured in its current state?
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
September 26 2015 09:09 GMT
#43
On July 31 2015 02:08 phantomfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2015 23:26 ShambhalaWar wrote:
For example, remove the inject mechanic, remove forcefields, drastic change to warp or remove it etc... maybe these are not the best examples of what to change, but I want them to change more of what people believe are the "core" issues of the game (of which economy probably still is one :/).

I like the inject mechanic, I like forcefields, I like warp gate.....there's nothing in HOTS that is totally broken, like we saw at the end of WOL with BL/Infestor.

Seriously, look at the amazing games it continues to produce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWJVJkpl3Eg

HOTS is good enough that it doesn't need a complete overhaul, it needs tweaks.

Thanks for reminding me why I stopped watching SC2.
sorry for dem one liners
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