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Cakez
United States73 Posts
EDIT: Seems the consensus says it's going to be 20% from LAST season, and you can check your rank through www.rankedftw.com Anyone diamond+ is about guaranteed, with the cutoff going to high platinum, Hope you get in! EDIT 2 Excalibur_Z Believes it to be top 20% MMR, so the info from the websites may be invalid. Keep praying though. [JUST GOT BETA, CHECK IT UP PEOPLE! 10 pm 4/30/2015 EST Add me up Cakez 472 | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Cakez
United States73 Posts
On April 25 2015 02:23 Ovid wrote: I've not got one yet. Best guess would be end of this month. 1st of May maybe? Let's hope. Just making sure I wasn't left out. Had a nasty email template ready for Blizzard just in case | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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robopork
United States511 Posts
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On April 25 2015 02:50 Big J wrote: can someone give me the link where they announced those top 20% invite thing? It was in David Kim's response to the DH economy, towards the end. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 25 2015 02:50 robopork wrote: It was in David Kim's response to the DH economy, towards the end. thanks | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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NiDoXiD
Germany28 Posts
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KaienFEMC
Canada127 Posts
On April 25 2015 03:45 NiDoXiD wrote: I wonder if the 20% refer to the MMR? The way I read it is top 20% from last season's ladder. Not sure what the criteria for "active" is though. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 25 2015 04:08 KaienFEMC wrote: The way I read it is top 20% from last season's ladder. Not sure what the criteria for "active" is though. It would be awesome if it was everyone who was rank 20 or higher (regardless of league). Actually reward people who were active! It would also be a good way to get different levels of play in beta (as long as they actually had some ranking so you didn't have a top 20 bronze facing off vs pros - although some would like it just to play vs an idol). | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
It tracks whether or not you were in the top 20th percent (80th percentile?) during season 1 | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
 I still don't have a beta invite though. | ||
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Masada714
United States89 Posts
Hope that helps! | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
although it'll be less necessary if there's finally a playerbase | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On April 25 2015 09:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: What league qualifies for top 20%? I forget what league distributions are supposed to look like So since they use the last season, it's basically from mid plat upwards. Diamond and Master were really small so most plats would be in the top 20%. You can use this site to check http://www.rankedftw.com/. Of course Blizzard's numbers will be somewhat different from this site or nios.kr, but it's at least a good estimation. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On April 25 2015 09:17 Musicus wrote: So since they use the last season, it's basically from mid plat upwards. Diamond and Master were really small so most plats would be in the top 20%. You can use this site to check http://www.rankedftw.com/. Of course Blizzard's numbers will be somewhat different from this site or nios.kr, but it's at least a good estimation. Dammit now I'm sad I waited until the season restarted to play. I'm comfortably in plat now but last season wasn't. The struggle is real | ||
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BeStFAN
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ApBuLLet
United States604 Posts
I was a master's player throughout WoL but didn't really play in HotS until the last few weeks so I was stuck in gold until the ladder reset. Now I'm diamond which is top 20% but I'm pretty sure my placement in gold won't be top 20% -.- | ||
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
"This Battle.net account does not include a copy of Starcraft 2 or has run out of game time. Please click ADD OR BUY GAME to add time or purchase the game" Was so stoked to play tonight  Apparently others are having the same issue hopefully it's fixed for my weekend off! | ||
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BboyApache
United States44 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Amphion91
Norway2 Posts
-No email yet. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On April 25 2015 16:29 TAMinator wrote: hmm tempted to cheese my way through to diamond, but that would take a few hours at least. It's not season one, the ranking of this time around doesn't make a difference. | ||
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straycat
230 Posts
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
On April 25 2015 21:13 straycat wrote: I'm a bit bummed by this tbh. The hots ladder will be sort of useless from now on I guess? ...and I have to wait a year or so for another shot at legit masters... Honestly as long as LotV is not remotely balanced/interesting HotS ladder won't be deserted. I know for sure I would play some LotV games to have some idea about the state of it but as long as ravager/cyclone/eco/P in general aren't addressed I'm pretty sure I would still focus on HotS. | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On April 27 2015 08:17 PinoKotsBeer wrote: I had a virtual blizzcon ticket, but no lotv access yet. Altough i will be in the top 20% i dislike it that there is no communication towards virtual ticket holders. There has been. Iv'e been harassing blizz about it since November. The virtual ticket waves are still going. For some fucking reason they can't do all the virtual ticket holders in 3 waves but they can do the top 20% of the total player base in 1 wave this week..... I have 3 accounts that will get into the 20% wave. I'm annoyed that the "priority access" virtual ticket holders were going to get is irrelevant now because everybody will be getting the beta anyway. Everybody who attended blizzcon already got in, but not all virtual ticket holders did. Really not fair imo. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 27 2015 08:17 PinoKotsBeer wrote: I had a virtual blizzcon ticket, but no lotv access yet. Altough i will be in the top 20% i dislike it that there is no communication towards virtual ticket holders. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17085919227?page=1#8 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vTCO9jP.png) | ||
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17084309373 3 days with Beta and haven't got to play one game. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On April 27 2015 10:05 GGzerG wrote: Is it confirmed top 20% got added to beta or will be soon? Has not gone out yet. Will be late this week. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10149 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
On April 27 2015 09:05 Za7oX wrote: There has been. Iv'e been harassing blizz about it since November. The virtual ticket waves are still going. For some fucking reason they can't do all the virtual ticket holders in 3 waves but they can do the top 20% of the total player base in 1 wave this week..... I have 3 accounts that will get into the 20% wave. I'm annoyed that the "priority access" virtual ticket holders were going to get is irrelevant now because everybody will be getting the beta anyway. Everybody who attended blizzcon already got in, but not all virtual ticket holders did. Really not fair imo. Thanks, i overlooked the post on battle.net | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
EDIT : Yes it is. I'm installing. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 27 2015 20:29 opisska wrote: This is the first time I really wish I was better in SC2 I wish they would have gone with top 20% based on activity (Games played last season) instead of mmr / skill. Actually rewarded people who play. | ||
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
On April 27 2015 21:07 y0su wrote: I wish they would have gone with top 20% based on activity (Games played last season) instead of mmr / skill. Actually rewarded people who play. why? theyre trying to balance their game, they need reliable data to do that | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 27 2015 21:33 TT1 wrote: why? theyre trying to balance their game, they need reliable data to do that so you playing vs some plat is going to help? let me repeat... Actually rewarded people who play. | ||
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Skimer
Russian Federation15 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
On April 27 2015 22:47 y0su wrote: so you playing vs some plat is going to help? let me repeat... Actually rewarded people who play. So you say that a Silver MMR guy who played shitload ammout of games and has no idea what he is doing in a game should be more useful for the testing purposes than a Master MMR guy who played like 10 times less? I tend to disagree, sir. | ||
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bananashell
Sweden18 Posts
I just saw that the Lotv-beta option was there in the server list. (I didn't get the beta on the first round) I'm currently platinum on EU EDIT: Fyi; I had the virtual blizzcon ticket | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On April 27 2015 21:33 TT1 wrote: why? theyre trying to balance their game, they need reliable data to do that To be honest 10% would've been a better bet. 20% is too broad. (Not just saying that because I'm in the top 3%  ) | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:45 Ovid wrote: To be honest 10% would've been a better bet. 20% is too broad. (Not just saying that because I'm in the top 3% )Exactly. Do we really want plat players helping decide balance? So, instead of giving it to some guy who plays 10 ladder games a season but stays in diamond, I wish they would have rewarded that kid that's top 8 gold each season. Also, with eco changes it might actually be beneficial to see if active lower league players would be able to grasp the changes easily (hopefully allow blizzard to try new things). | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
On April 28 2015 04:34 y0su wrote: Exactly. Do we really want plat players helping decide balance? So, instead of giving it to some guy who plays 10 ladder games a season but stays in diamond, I wish they would have rewarded that kid that's top 8 gold each season. Also, with eco changes it might actually be beneficial to see if active lower league players would be able to grasp the changes easily (hopefully allow blizzard to try new things). It's far fetched as fuck but that could maaaaaybe be an indication they wanna steer away from balancing the game to fit the casual and more towards the higher level player. Like I said, far fetched but a possibility I guess. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On April 28 2015 04:39 Amazonic wrote: It's far fetched as fuck but that could maaaaaybe be an indication they wanna steer away from balancing the game to fit the casual and more towards the higher level player. Like I said, far fetched but a possibility I guess. I would sort of agree if they only invited the top 5% (Masters +) and kept it that way for the whole beta. But 20% has some gold leaguers having the potential of being in the beta. I think this 20% thing is more of a way to get more data to make better choices currently they can only go off biased opinions of pros (who if an imbalance or perceived imbalance was let through could affect their livelihood) Anyway when I get in I will be recording shit tons of data for one massive post (Like most of us will end up doing) this is the last SC2 for the foreseeable future and I want micro actual micro not click a button and cast a spell. (Another thing please take auto cast off storm) | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On April 28 2015 03:45 Ovid wrote: To be honest 10% would've been a better bet. 20% is too broad. (Not just saying that because I'm in the top 3% )I imagine they want to keep queue times reasonably low so people don't lose interest. MMR will do its thing and they can still get the data they need, it just means if your skill level isn't matched you'll play a platinum player instead of waiting for 20 minutes to play anyone at all. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
On April 27 2015 21:07 y0su wrote: I wish they would have gone with top 20% based on activity (Games played last season) instead of mmr / skill. Actually rewarded people who play. I'm sure it's a mixture of both. Problem is if you have a player in Bronze who has played 1000 hours of HOTS, Blizzard is not going to get the gameplay data they need. Having a certain level of player competence & skill in the game is integral for balance and design | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 28 2015 06:21 wUndertUnge wrote: I'm sure it's a mixture of both. Problem is if you have a player in Bronze who has played 1000 hours of HOTS, Blizzard is not going to get the gameplay data they need. Having a certain level of player competence & skill in the game is integral for balance and design I fully agree if we're ONLY talking about having people in beta for balance. However, they've flag several community figures (I have beta for being a community caster - have you ever heard of me?). They're also giving out beta for people that purchase Virtual Tickets (I have a friend who got beta AND DOESN'T OWN SC2!). I'm only saying if they're not giving out beta purely for "high level balance testing" (which we can agree would only be the case if it was top 5% mmr etc), why not give it to people who have been loyal and active? Also, to clarify, I don't mean top 20% based just on games played. I meant top 20% of each division (anyone with rank 1-20 regardless of what league it's in). | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On April 29 2015 06:16 hunts wrote: Did they ever clarify if this is only for people in top 20% of last season, or will people currently in top 20% (diamond and up?) get in too? In the initial comment he said Season 1, so my guess is, for this wave at least, it's just last season. Calculating that 20% for this season would be pretty difficult given that it changes constantly. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On April 25 2015 09:10 Musicus wrote: I really wonder how this will work. I mean I'm all for it and happy about it since I would be in the top 20%, but I just can't imagine they will invite roughly 60 thousand players in one wave??? The jump just seems so big and since there is only a single server I wonder if there would be problems. It's more like 14k | ||
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Exstasy
United Kingdom393 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On April 29 2015 18:45 ZenithM wrote: They should have said they were handing beta keys BEFORE locking the ladder. I would have crushed my way to top 20% in no time just to play LotV haha. yea it could have generated some hype and get more people playing sc2 as well | ||
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MrMatt
Canada225 Posts
On April 29 2015 18:45 ZenithM wrote: They should have said they were handing beta keys BEFORE locking the ladder. I would have crushed my way to top 20% in no time just to play LotV haha. Ya I haven't played in a few seasons and came back during the lock (but before hearing about these invites) got placed in bronze... I guess because of the MMR decay. After killing poor bronzies and getting flamed repeatedly for maphacking etc I was playing plats and diamonds but still stuck in bronze. This season I am top diamond. Maybe they use MMR in which case I am probably in but if they use the visible ranking I guess not. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Matches are really long to find and i play the same guy 5time in a row yesterday. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 29 2015 18:45 ZenithM wrote: They should have said they were handing beta keys BEFORE locking the ladder. I would have crushed my way to top 20% in no time just to play LotV haha. MMR doesn't lock though :D | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Source? I think there are still around 300k players/accounts that get ranked each season. This seasons it's at 128k already, that's at least what http://nios.kr/ says. Of course this may not be 100% accurate, but I still don't think there are only 70k world wide. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
No no, I meant, they should have announced the beta keys for the top 20% in season 1 BEFORE the season 1 ended ^^. Would have made for a nice "race to the top" event thing for beta keys. | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
On April 29 2015 22:06 ZenithM wrote: No no, I meant, they should have announced the beta keys for the top 20% in season 1 BEFORE the season 1 ended ^^. Would have made for a nice "race to the top" event thing for beta keys. I think they did that on purpose, to get people who are are actually active and not just playing a few games to get a beta key. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 29 2015 23:08 cava wrote: I think they did that on purpose, to get people who are are actually active and not just playing a few games to get a beta key. I don't think it really awards activity if you could just do 1 placement and never drop out of Diamond... | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On April 29 2015 23:14 Ej_ wrote: I don't think it really awards activity if you could just do 1 placement and never drop out of Diamond... I still agree with him though, they probably guessed they should reward their most faithful customers, and I'm ok with that. | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 29 2015 06:46 404AlphaSquad wrote: Look at all these below 20% people complaining for not getting a beta key ^^ "it is so unfair, me biggest fan. I <3 sc2" I am actually happy that I played last season after a year of break. Sure it was only 30 games until I gave up again because I despise HOTS. but it was enough to get top 5% again so I am happy. If you're going to troll at least read the thread :D | ||
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Cakez
United States73 Posts
Each day feels like an eternity | ||
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Boogiemaster7
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On April 30 2015 04:17 Cakez wrote: Blizzard sure are taking their sweet time with these invites. Each day feels like an eternity ++1. Cant wait.. | ||
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Zidane
United States1686 Posts
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On April 30 2015 04:17 Cakez wrote: Blizzard sure are taking their sweet time with these invites. Each day feels like an eternity They said the end of this week, so I'm thinking my son or daughter can have it at some point. Seriously though have they said anything more specific about when they'll go out? I'm tired of checking my account 5 times a day. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On April 30 2015 04:44 robopork wrote: They said the end of this week, so I'm thinking my son or daughter can have it at some point. Seriously though have they said anything more specific about when they'll go out? I'm tired of checking my account 5 times a day. You don't need to go to your account. Just check the "region drop list" on the bnet launcher. Because LotV server is a "region". | ||
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robopork
United States511 Posts
On April 30 2015 04:46 FFW_Rude wrote: You don't need to go to your account. Just check the "region drop list" on the bnet launcher. Because LotV server is a "region". That would be easier, however downloading the blizzard launcher at work might be a bit brazen :p | ||
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
On April 30 2015 03:50 y0su wrote: If you're going to troll at least read the thread :D Isn't being below 20 % better than being above lol. Anyway, I was a virtual ticket holder and in masters league. No invite. | ||
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bhfberserk
Canada390 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On April 30 2015 06:02 robopork wrote: That would be easier, however downloading the blizzard launcher at work might be a bit brazen :p oh... Didn't think about that one did i ? :p EDIT : PM me if you're a noob like me and wants to play. Since it's sometimes 20minutes to find on opponent on Beta and you can't play vs ai . | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
edit: ps sorry if this was asked but do you get an email when youre flagged? | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
Should be getting invite today or tomorrow. Pretty fucking excited to finally play. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
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RazerBlader
United Kingdom30 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
EDIT LOLOLOLOL OMG post this 2 sec later invited LOL i love it | ||
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Aquila-
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SonOfSparda17
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
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suddendeathTV
Sweden388 Posts
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-Switch-
Canada506 Posts
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SonOfSparda17
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Agh
United States934 Posts
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Lexender
Mexico2627 Posts
I got beta :D time to 6 rax reaper and mas cyclone wooo. Also I'm plat and no virtual ticket so theres hope even if you aren't diamond or above. Altough according to ranked I was 14% last season | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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SonOfSparda17
5 Posts
according to rankedftw I was 11% | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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SonOfSparda17
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On May 01 2015 11:17 cava wrote: I was mid diamond last season, guess that missed the cut? That's weird, mid diamond is definitely in top 20% | ||
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Masada714
United States89 Posts
. According to rankedftw I'm top 3% in the world. I hope more are coming out. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eOBu3F8.jpg?1) | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5417 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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Magnifico
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cKoL
Germany29 Posts
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TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
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United States306 Posts
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Masada714
United States89 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
didn't get any email so check your accountsedit: wtf 6.5 gb edit2: nvm, not sure why it said 6.5gb at first, seems like the actual download size is about 600mb | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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RDaneelOlivaw
Vatican City State733 Posts
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation390 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10149 Posts
im so happy right now :3 | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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Cakez
United States73 Posts
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BallonRouge
United States10 Posts
On May 01 2015 14:34 EleanorRIgby wrote: are the invites over now? i was in top 5% and never got an invite.... Yeah I was in the top 20% and still haven't gotten an invite. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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Cakez
United States73 Posts
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IMLyte
Canada714 Posts
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IMHope
Korea (South)1241 Posts
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
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Netherlands2397 Posts
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I have been fairly critical of LOTV ... but I would like to get in there and see what it feels like GLHF to those who have been invited | ||
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United Kingdom978 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
On April 25 2015 04:08 KaienFEMC wrote: The way I read it is top 20% from last season's ladder. Not sure what the criteria for "active" is though. I've played like 10games within the past 2 years, once I played I've always been in GM tho. Received Beta today. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Only played at the start of the last season. Got myself from gold to diamond | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
Also, what are they waiting for to add in ranked play? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:07 KingAlphard wrote: Why do I still have the old nickname from HotS beta? And I can't change it... disappointing. Also, what are they waiting for to add in ranked play? Well hopefully a new ranked system, new ladder. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
Also there seems to be a problem with loading the match history again. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:07 KingAlphard wrote: Why do I still have the old nickname from HotS beta? And I can't change it... disappointing. Also, what are they waiting for to add in ranked play? It is likely based on PTR servers. E.g. if you had logged in PTR server some time in the past it took it from there. At least my account level was already '2' when I logged in | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
But guys dont worry looks like NA did not get the invites yet. | ||
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laaaaaaaamee
Australia95 Posts
On May 01 2015 16:30 CursOr wrote: www.rankedftw.com has me at 18% at the end of season 1, even though I was pretty much inactive. I really hope this correlates into an invite >.< I have been fairly critical of LOTV ... but I would like to get in there and see what it feels like GLHF to those who have been invited wow this thing says i peaked top 2.19% global lol. does this consider diamond eu, na, kr, sea all the same? | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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laaaaaaaamee
Australia95 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VE43ehD.png) | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:26 Garbels wrote: Got in, played one game and now have the same error. But guys dont worry looks like NA did not get the invites yet. I did and I'm NA. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:27 laaaaaaaamee wrote: wow this thing says i peaked top 2.19% global lol. does this consider diamond eu, na, kr, sea all the same? This looks at overall distribution through the SC2 ladder api like on SC2 ranks http://www.sc2ranks.com/stats/league And then it looks at your distribution in that league. So, say for simplicity Diamond is top 10% world, and you are rank 10 in your division of 100... you would be exaclty at top 1% on that graph. so it makes percentage ranges off of distribution, then ranks you in that range. Yeah I got about 3% in july of last year, quite proud of it. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Way to ruin my hope bro, thanks. | ||
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MorDka
Poland543 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:37 laaaaaaaamee wrote: err guys, this popped up when i tried to find match? its recurring i get the same mostly, but sometimes it finds the game fast enough just keep trying i played 2 games :D | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news edit: If it's any consolation the Beta is barely playable, I've got 2 games in about half an hour fo searching due to the errors others have mentioned. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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404AlphaSquad
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
Ok, I see a lot of people having this issue, blizzard probably will fix it Soon. | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:47 404AlphaSquad wrote: Is it only me or is the ping absurdly high on this test server? I have roughly a ping of 180 on the test server. I am EU. Normal NA server ping for me. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
So am I part of the NA or EU beta invites? | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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Alch3mist
Belgium29 Posts
I was really sure i would get one as i was playing against dia very often and got promoted very quickly after last season's end. My stats: http://www.rankedftw.com/team/807523/#td=region&ty=c&tyz=0&tx=a&tl=1 | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
I have 8 games played in total in the past 2 years and I got in | ||
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On May 01 2015 18:37 laaaaaaaamee wrote: err guys, this popped up when i tried to find match? its recurring Same issue now. Played 4 games this morning without any error message. Can't play anymore. Guess I'll actually be productive and do some homework instead. | ||
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moofang
508 Posts
Not sure if it's mentioned in the thread yet, but don't just check your emails. I didn't get an email notification, and my friend who got in the first wave said his email arrived 2-3 weeks late. Check your 'manage games' page on battle.net. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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tar
Germany991 Posts
I guess matchmaking will work a lot better (ie faster) now that the player base has exploded | ||
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
On May 01 2015 19:23 Steelo_Rivers wrote: I got a beta invite and I haven't been ranked since like the seecond season of HotS (2013) I assume blizzard used a MMR list that didnt check for activity in 1v1s and the list contains every account that was master/top diamond in HotS when its holder stopped playing 1v1s. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On May 01 2015 19:23 Steelo_Rivers wrote: I got a beta invite and I haven't been ranked since like the seecond season of HotS (2013) But have you played unranked? Unranked is pretty much the same as ranked - Only separate MMR and ladder placements hidden. Unranked & ranked even use the same matchmaking queue. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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Steelo_Rivers
United States1968 Posts
On May 01 2015 19:43 korona wrote: But have you played unranked? Unranked is pretty much the same as ranked - Only separate MMR and ladder placements hidden. Unranked & ranked even use the same matchmaking queue. Yea I havr played a few unranked games over the years. | ||
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korona
1098 Posts
On May 01 2015 19:48 GGzerG wrote: For me it is really underwhelming having only unranked, I don't remember when they ever started a beta with only unranked T_T They are considering changes to the ladder system. Obviously the changes have not been implemented yet and/or they are not willing to share their plans yet. But yes. The unranked mode does not encourage people to play as it gives no feedback / feeling of progress. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On May 01 2015 19:52 korona wrote: They are considering changes to the ladder system. Obviously the changes have not been implemented yet and/or they are not willing to share their plans yet. But yes. The unranked mode does not encourage people to play as it gives no feedback / feeling of progress. Source? | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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korona
1098 Posts
For example this (there are other sources too): http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/18141070/starcraft-ii-ladder-update-march-2-2015-3-2-2015 Time will tell will the changes be for better or worse. I just hope the future system will be more transparent regarding individual skill compared to others and still gives a feeling of progression. Personally I am not a fan of for example the 'Hearthstone system (with some changes)' that they took into use in Heroes of the Storm as it feels dull and grindy in practise. And most of the time not transparent at all when considerable portion of players have not grinded to their typical level in that game. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
Anyway, beta is unplayable for me, I keep getting the "missing required site information" all the time before finding a match. Is it only me or is the ping absurdly high on this test server? I have roughly a ping of 180 on the test server. I am EU. I wish I had only 180 ping ^^ for me it's in the 200-300 range most of the time, peaks up to 500. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 01 2015 20:24 KingAlphard wrote: Still I feel like they should add HotS ladder on LotV and then change it when they're ready to do it... unless they're already almost ready. Anyway, beta is unplayable for me, I keep getting the "missing required site information" all the time before finding a match. Restart your bnet and sc2. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
Still getting the same error message. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
Me too T___T | ||
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abendrot
14 Posts
This is sad. Would definitly play 1vs1 in the beta. Plz Blizzard let me in. | ||
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GlinTrue
1 Post
Anyone know what this means? | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 01 2015 21:20 GlinTrue wrote: I got an invite, but right now I'm getting this error when I try to queue up for a game. Missing game site information. Anyone know what this means? Everyone is getting it, just play customs. | ||
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flipstar
226 Posts
Having big latency is a gamebreaker when you're used to smooth sailing. | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
On May 01 2015 22:52 Garbels wrote: Most of platin. Only according to points. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On May 01 2015 22:11 KatatoniK wrote: Man seeing people who haven't played since 2013 and people getting alt accounts in while I narrowly miss out by such a tiny margin makes me a little salty :< I would be salty too, but i got in :< | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
gratz to everyone who got a key! CYA ON ZE BATTLEFIELD <3 | ||
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
i was at 14% and didn't get in :/Gratz to everyone that did though! | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On May 01 2015 22:52 Garbels wrote: Most of platin. oh shit I have it then. Weird how they didnt send out a mail, I wonder how long I have had that key. Missing game information error is quite annoying though. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:24 JacobShock wrote: oh shit I have it then. Weird how they didnt send out a mail, I wonder how long I have had that key. Missing game information error is quite annoying though. Probably just since today | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
I'm struggling to get any useful information since my opponents are floating so much money or dying to stupid things, the only game I lost so far was a game where I was cannon rushed and then failed a ravager bust after. I'm currently looking at fast adrenal glands + muta in ZvP and my god does it wreck face. When I've worked out a more solid BO I will post it. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
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Zidane
United States1686 Posts
http://www.rankedftw.com/team/263744/#td=region&ty=c&tyz=0&tx=a&tl=1 | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:51 Ovid wrote: I think they had the percent too broad. I'm 10-1 and I'm like mid-low master so nothing special. I'm struggling to get any useful information since my opponents are floating so much money or dying to stupid things, the only game I lost so far was a game where I was cannon rushed and then failed a ravager bust after. I'm currently looking at fast adrenal glands + muta in ZvP and my god does it wreck face. When I've worked out a more solid BO I will post it. If you're masters then it's expected that you have to play a few games before you meet opponents of your same skill... | ||
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HewTheTitan
Canada331 Posts
I should have played my obligatory 1-3 games last season, but the PASSION, it's gone for now. I was... 11% at best, 18% at worst in the season before. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 02 2015 00:28 KingAlphard wrote: If you're masters then it's expected that you have to play a few games before you meet opponents of your same skill... Unranked isn't working so it's not MMR case, it's because we have to play custom games. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 02 2015 00:56 Thalandros wrote: Got in, but getting an error every game. Can't seem to play matchmaking. Oh well. Play custom, and to the guy complaining about low, I agree low is ugly ultra is the only way, but the problem I'm having is with my 4k monitor the mouse is displayed at 1080p mouse size so I can barely see where the mouse is. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
On May 02 2015 01:02 Ovid wrote: Play custom, and to the guy complaining about low, I agree low is ugly ultra is the only way, but the problem I'm having is with my 4k monitor the mouse is displayed at 1080p mouse size so I can barely see where the mouse is. In fact it depends on maps. On some maps it's quite OK, even pretty, but on others man (Coda) it really feels ugly... Maybe I just have to get used to it. On the other hand I have to say I played two games so far and that the feeling of speed is incredible. I'm positively surprised ! | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
On May 02 2015 01:02 Ovid wrote: Play custom, and to the guy complaining about low, I agree low is ugly ultra is the only way, but the problem I'm having is with my 4k monitor the mouse is displayed at 1080p mouse size so I can barely see where the mouse is. Custom is different than matchmaking. Ive played a couple of custom games with friends though. I'll just wait for it to get fixed I suppose. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
On May 02 2015 01:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Archon mode is really cool. But its really hard. Always cross controlling yea its gonna be really fun once they have ranked mode for it although playing zerg in archon mode is really awkward cus u cant shift hotkey eggs, theyre kinda at a disadvantage | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
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Darquess
Scotland13 Posts
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
I wish blizzard would let you spawn a friend | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:20 Geiko wrote: Ask around in general chat.I want to try archon mode but I don't know anybody that has beta I wish blizzard would let you spawn a friend | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:20 Geiko wrote: I want to try archon mode but I don't know anybody that has beta I wish blizzard would let you spawn a friend Sneikku #552 if you want to play with me. | ||
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Geiko
France1939 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:21 GGzerG wrote: When is the Ranked coming? This is really underwhelming and boring for me just doing unranked, can't even force myself to play this. But you do know that unranked is literally the exact same thing as ranked, except you don't see your league or points ? Your MMR changes just liek ranked and you get paired with similar players. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:34 Geiko wrote: But you do know that unranked is literally the exact same thing as ranked, except you don't see your league or points ? Your MMR changes just liek ranked and you get paired with similar players. but your e-penis doesn't grow | ||
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:41 Tiaraju9 wrote: I hate playing without "knowing" the meta I'm the opposite, I love being able to do dumb shit and it working. It could be that my opponents are bad though. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 02 2015 03:20 Geiko wrote: I want to try archon mode but I don't know anybody that has beta I wish blizzard would let you spawn a friend http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/481812-tl-community-lotv There's a sheet with lots of TL people. | ||
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Darkzephyr
Canada10 Posts
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TT1
Canada10004 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 02 2015 04:12 TT1 wrote: is anyone playing archon mode? its taking us forever to find a game Ladder was broken this afternoon so people are still trying to find players in chat bnet1 style. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
. 2 times I had silver/gold level player that wanted to do everything. It was just fucking horrible  | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r5Vy2tw.jpg) If any of the TL staff wants ownership back, send me a PM. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
I haven't been on much but there's a lost of people to add to friends here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/481812-tl-community-lotv On May 02 2015 04:24 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I don't like archon mode anymore so much . 2 times I had silver/gold level player that wanted to do everything. It was just fucking horrible we'll have to team up :D | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 02 2015 04:25 darkness wrote: LotV beta is kind of bugged. It made me a leader of Teamliquid: If any of the TL staff wants ownership back, send me a PM. No. You just replaced Nazgul, live with it! | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 02 2015 04:25 darkness wrote: LotV beta is kind of bugged. It made me a leader of Teamliquid: If any of the TL staff wants ownership back, send me a PM. Now you can command TaeJa | ||
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
and apparently NesTea | ||
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Bojas
Netherlands2397 Posts
On May 02 2015 05:18 Ovid wrote: Anyone else feeling like there's a delay between actions? I wasn't having this problem earlier maybe it's my internet was throttled or something. Same. It's unplayable for me, the delay is literally 2 seconds. People from my clan have the same issues. My opponent didn't have any issues and he was from the US. The beta server is in California, right? I can usually play without noticeable lag on NA, maybe the normal server is on the east coast? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
My opponents are whining about disruptors, haha.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xZxBwJ5.jpg) Not only am I leader of the TL channel but also beta for 35 weeks.. lol. Nice bug. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
EDIT: thank god i just checked and ive got it, now i can get mad at lotv instead im so hyped | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1047 Posts
Stay hopeful. | ||
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 02 2015 05:41 darkness wrote: The game feels slower, but I'm winning 3-0 so far. a few disruptors into colossi feels imba. My opponents are whining about disruptors, haha.Not only am I leader of the TL channel but also beta for 35 weeks.. lol. Nice bug. Did you use PTR? Some said their xp and nick from ptr is now in lotv beta. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On May 02 2015 08:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Did you use PTR? Some said their xp and nick from ptr is now in lotv beta. If you mean that LotV client a few days before beta started - yes. | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On May 02 2015 09:35 darkness wrote: No, for example my profile - name and experience carried over from PTR (HotS testing) that was if I remember correctly in early autumn.If you mean that LotV client a few days before beta started - yes. | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On May 02 2015 09:46 Tuczniak wrote: No, for example my profile - name and experience carried over from PTR (HotS testing) that was if I remember correctly in early autumn. Nothing carried over for me and I played in the HotS beta extensively. | ||
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LloydRays
United States306 Posts
https://twitter.com/ZoeviaBlizzard/status/594212648817860609?s=09 | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On May 02 2015 10:37 Pursuit_ wrote: Nothing carried over for me and I played in the HotS beta extensively. HotS beta is not the same as PTR | ||
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strength
United States493 Posts
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Drmooose
United States390 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
hardly seems worth playing at the moment tbh | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
My bad O.o | ||
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
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Uni1987
Netherlands642 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Uni1987
Netherlands642 Posts
On May 02 2015 17:17 Ovid wrote: Did any of the people who weren't in the top 20% buy a virtual ticket or go see to see blizzcon? Not me. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 02 2015 05:41 darkness wrote: The game feels slower, but I'm winning 3-0 so far. a few disruptors into colossi feels imba. My opponents are whining about disruptors, haha.Not only am I leader of the TL channel but also beta for 35 weeks.. lol. Nice bug. How do you play versus IA ? i can't put an IA as enemy when i create a custom game. | ||
digmouse
China6329 Posts
On May 02 2015 18:05 FFW_Rude wrote: How do you play versus IA ? i can't put an IA as enemy when i create a custom game. That's his PTR record, beta uses the PTR channel so your past PTR data are still there. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 02 2015 18:07 digmouse wrote: That's his PTR record, beta uses the PTR channel so your past PTR data are still there. OH ok so therre's no possibility to play vs ia right now. RRight ? | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
Goodbye HotS. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On May 02 2015 18:05 FFW_Rude wrote: How do you play versus IA ? i can't put an IA as enemy when i create a custom game. Custom games> Top played games> Catagory = co-op vs A.I. select map & AI difficulty create 1v2ai | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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91matt
United Kingdom147 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On May 02 2015 21:24 Matt` wrote: this beta needs a ladder pretty desperatly I don't care about ladder as long as they fix speed. It feels so slow, and I don't mean slower because of my hardware because it's superb. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 02 2015 19:32 shin_toss wrote: Kinda disappointed with how they are distributing invites. They said 20% so I didn't really expect to get one coz im just in diamond. Then after the wave some of the guys who are in gold,plat and inactive sc2 players for a long time got one. And I didn't. Sigh.. then those guys will probably stop playing after a week or two. what a waste. They said they are aware of that and will look into that monday. Hang in there! | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
On May 02 2015 23:42 Aocowns wrote: Is there any rationale whatsoever for the weird minimap? It's... new and shiny? Fuck if I know | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
On May 02 2015 23:42 Aocowns wrote: Is there any rationale whatsoever for the weird minimap? I don't know how there can be any, but even if there were, it's ugly and impossible to read on some maps. It baffles me how such a change can still be in the beta. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
On May 03 2015 02:09 Hider wrote: Honestly the game is in a much worse state than I expected. Even if the game ges balanced and new terran units + small design tweaks, I don't see any reason why we should expect inactive players to come back. All of the flaws of HOTS are still prevalent and then they added new lame stuff such as Cyclones and let's be clear here. AA removal fixes nothing. The unit is so ridiclous dumb with its max range. And Reaper ability? Seems so incredibly pointless. is this how inactive players are feeling? Because it is incredibly far from what I am am feeling as still active hots player. You are terran right? | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24193 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
On May 03 2015 02:33 Garbels wrote: is this how inactive players are feeling? Because it is incredibly far from what I am am feeling as still active hots player. You are terran right? I think most active players will be satifised with better balance, while most inactive players want a lot more. It's hard for me to identify areas where I can truly say "that part wasn't good in HOTS, but !@#$%^&* is it fun in LOTV".... Perhaps the exception is tier 3 splash protoss as the Disruptor is much more fun than Colossus. But toss is just fucked so much anyway, and nerfing the Collosus (and keeping the design) and still having Forcefields and an adding a active shild to the Immortal... just makes me not want to play the race at all. Anyway, the only fun I had so far (after 12 or so) was one game with Siege Tank drops vs Ravager/Lurkers. That's a great interaction. High micro skillcap and lots of counterplay. Gimme me a lot more like that while removing all hardcounters and infitnitive kiting + redesign spellcasters such as Ravens, Ghosts and Sentries + give toss a proper core army --> I am really to evaluate LOTV once again. But untill that point, I don't see any strong reason to play it. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
Protoss seems weak. On top of that, it's the 20% basically that are in so everyone is really good. Got STEAMROLLED by a couple of Terrans/Zergs today. I'm about Diamond level but haven't been playing for a while so it's tough. But so far I find the beta to be a lot of fun, even if it's not quite balanced yet. I think the macro is a little TOO fast though. I don't think you should start with 12 workers or have to expand THAT quickly. Maybe something this and WoL. | ||
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
On May 03 2015 02:41 [PkF] Wire wrote: I think design flaws are even MORE prevalent here than in HotS. The "harass everywhere", "action all over the map" motto is obtained by making the attacker's advantage so ludicrous you just cannot play defensive anymore (not just turtle which is despised for good reasons, but even defensive play has become absurdly hard) I think its too early to tell. Good players aren't even playing LotV yet. Any definitive judgment has to be based on korean play. My personal impression so far is that the new worker count has more cons than pros. Today MC stole two gases from Patience, leading to a unique early-mid game. That's dead now. The new economy in general makes you feel like you are playing against the clock, but something had to be done to end the turtle madness. I have no words to describe how retard that minimap is, though. LotV will be better than HotS, that's for sure. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 03 2015 04:46 Tiaraju9 wrote: I think its too early to tell. Good players aren't even playing LotV yet. Any definitive judgment has to be based on korean play. My personal impression so far is that the new worker count has more cons than pros. Today MC stole two gases from Patience, leading to a unique early-mid game. That's dead now. The new economy in general makes you feel like you are playing against the clock, but something had to be done to end the turtle madness. I have no words to describe how retard that minimap is, though. LotV will be better than HotS, that's for sure. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NRWZhwh.jpg) When my match history looks like than you know it's the case. | ||
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
The minimap also is kind of strange it's really hard to see, turning on colorblind mode helped the slightest bit but it's really hard to see pylons and drops at the moment D: | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 03 2015 02:50 GGzerG wrote: Welp, if LOTV Beta fails, i'm going back to BW. I don't want to sound cynical but anyone that expects LotV to make it "just like BW" or something similar was ... not delusional but naive from the beginning. Be it Blizzard's stubborness in some design philosophies(dumbing down AI in favor of game mechanics for example) or the fact that people don't actually want BW style of difficulty(people find SC2 too hard already - at least if we're talking about the "casuals" we want to get back into the game), there are a lot of reasons why it's not gonna happen. Best we can hope for is for some, not all, HotS flaws to be fixed. But don't expect SC2 to be like BW - ever. You'll just end up disappointed. @[PkF] Wire: I get your point about defensive play to be problematic. But there are multiple approaches to designing aggressive/defensive mechanics. One is to give aggressive options first, analyse those, then give appropriate defensive responses. Remember, we're still super early in Beta. Nothing has really happened yet apart from a balance patch that fixed some "super obvious" flaws. You have to remember that you guys are talking about dynamics. You simply cannot design those. All Blizzard can do is give mechanics, see how players work with that(what kind of dynamics emerge) and then respond to that. This takes time. Lots of. | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
It's refereshing to play something new, and the metagame is like a wild west of unexplored build orders and strategies. That said, i feel like it's a little bit TOO fast and it punishes you for not expanding instead of REWARDING you for expanding. THe new units are nice and add a complexity to the game that was lacking from HotS. Will definitely keep playing more and hopefully Blizzard will take some of the community's feedback on the economy. Also, wtf is this new minimap bullshit? I don't even know why things are different colors... at least if it were consistent I'd appreciate it but right now it's just seemingly random. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
Feel like going back to Hots. Can't believe i'm saying that after only 3 days @_@ The econ change seems to have hit Protoss hard. Zerg gets up to 4 base while Protoss is still struggling to to take a 3rd. | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
On May 03 2015 05:56 Ovid wrote: When my match history looks like than you know it's the case. Defiantly a zerg player | ||
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HwiiyiG
United States25 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On May 04 2015 05:21 ReMaDe wrote: Any confirmation on whether it's MMR or points 20%? I've been mid-high plat and am wondering if I should keep my hopes up for the beta. mmr not sure you made the cut | ||
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HwiiyiG
United States25 Posts
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On May 02 2015 22:12 darkness wrote: I don't care about ladder as long as they fix speed. It feels so slow, and I don't mean slower because of my hardware because it's superb. It's default running on the new 64 bit version right now. In the Bnet client settings you can tick a box that will launch the game on the 32 bit version. This helps with the lag apparently. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
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WellCrap
Sweden122 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:53 knOxStarcraft wrote: It's default running on the new 64 bit version right now. In the Bnet client settings you can tick a box that will launch the game on the 32 bit version. This helps with the lag apparently. Do you mean in the Bnet app? I might have missed something D: | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:49 knOxStarcraft wrote: I'm actually shocked this many of you don't like the beta. I've only played ~45 games but so far it's way way more fun than hots. It feels harder to keep up for sure, but this is a good thing obviously. What issues are you guys seeing that are game breaking right now? Protoss in general just feels really week. Seems like you have to play better than your opponent to win. PvT bio is extremely strong and if they're good at splitting you basically can't fight it. Colossus is pretty trash honestly. You need to do a TON of harass early game to keep up with them. Cyclones are a bit problematic mid game... but I'm slowly learning how to deal with them. Blink Stalkers and Disruptors seems to do okay, because you can micro against the lock with Blink to keep them close and hit them with Disruptors which move at the same speed (if not slightly faster). Vs Zerg I feel like the economy change is the biggest problem. They saturate their bases much much much faster than you and then can invest everything into denying your third. Giant flocks of Mutas arrive way faster, giving you less time to prepare. Also, the 8 armor Ultralisk is broken. As. Fuck. Your units simply can't damage it. Otherwise the game is pretty fast and intense. I'm enjoying it. Though I do wish it played a TAD slower. Protoss so difficult right now | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 02 2015 19:03 y0su wrote: Custom games> Top played games> Catagory = co-op vs A.I. select map & AI difficulty create 1v2ai I tried to do that but i could only "invite a player". I'll try tonight again. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Magnifico
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:49 knOxStarcraft wrote: I'm actually shocked this many of you don't like the beta. I've only played ~45 games but so far it's way way more fun than hots. It feels harder to keep up for sure, but this is a good thing obviously. What issues are you guys seeing that are game breaking right now? I've probably played about the same, maybe a few games less then 50 at this point, and I am having a ridiculous amount of fun with the Beta (But I'm Zerg so that's probably not too shocking haha). I'm not so sure anything is game breaking but I do have my issues with some units and their utter lack of interesting counter play, I know interesting is subject to personal bias so I'm just going to stick with the obvious glaring units that I just really don't enjoy playing against or even watching better people play with/against. Disruptors are either rage inducing for the opponent or for their Protoss user, because in all of the games I play against them, I either micro wrong and lose a huge chunk of my army in a spectacular blink of an eye, or it kind of just whiffs and it dies to Hydralisks for almost nothing and I know it's a staggering and frustrating loss gas cost wise. On top of that their synergy with the new Warp Prism is just way over the top. Not fun to play against at all not because it's too strong it's because it forces a super uninteresting yet somehow frantic response and I don't know, it feels lacking design wise, while it takes infinitely more micro and control then the Colossus this unit for sure needs work, the invulnerability thing just doesn't belong in an RTS and it's way too risk/reward to be strategic. And for the other unit offender, Cyclones. This unit when it's played against a speedling style looks super weak and against gasless openers it murders Queens something fierce. I know this unit is hilariously imba vs. Protoss but at least vs. Zerg it's use appears binary, uninteresting, and while I know this sounds petty, the unit just looks ugly as sin. I know I am just senselessly repeating what so many others have said but I'm not so sure about the Cyclone even being the right unit for the Terran arsenal, Factory needed a mobile AA unit and this unit isn't even an AA unit now until the Fusion Core if I'm not mistaken, so obviously it's intended role is drastically changed up from the last patch. It's big, ugly looking and way too slow to micro in an interesting way. The lock on thing kind of makes micro not really "micro" it's more like auto micro for the Terran and some weird run out of vision micro for the opponent. If Blizzard was smart enough to give Zerg the Lurker, and if they really want Terran to have a reliable, meat shield AA factory unit then can we test the Goliath? At least they already have the models for it complete they can just throw some stats on it. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
But as a player that absolutely hates passive(not defensive, but passive) play it's way more fun to play than HotS ever was. I can play defensively if I want to and have constant struggles to defend my new bases, or be aggressive and try to deny my opponent's expansion. It feels much more dynamic, much more room to lose AND win. LotV is much less of that "Here comes the big doom push after 10 minutes of nothing!!" but instead more about being active and I enjoy that. I think that the economy could use way more tweaking than it currently has, though. So perhaps DH + LotV could be something fun to try out. | ||
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SonOfSparda17
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On May 04 2015 18:30 WellCrap wrote: Do you mean in the Bnet app? I might have missed something D: Yup in the bnet desktop app. Click the icon thing on the top left of the app and click settings from there, then find the lotv beta in the list and the option is there. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:53 knOxStarcraft wrote: It's default running on the new 64 bit version right now. In the Bnet client settings you can tick a box that will launch the game on the 32 bit version. This helps with the lag apparently. Cool, so this helped. I hope they will fix it. I love that FPS meter now shows the ping(!!) so now you know who is lagging  In this case it is me, ping does not go under 100(which is fine for my level ) but it spikes around 1,000 every now and then and usually for a long period Sad me Have a nice beta you all, it is not for me :/ | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On May 01 2015 23:17 Vedeynevin wrote: i was at 14% and didn't get in :/Gratz to everyone that did though! Seriously? After not playing for a long time, I was _low_ plat in 1v1 last season (barely on the border) and I got it this weekend. I assume you also play on the US server? | ||
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:49 knOxStarcraft wrote: I know I am just senselessly repeating what so many others have said but I'm not so sure about the Cyclone even being the right unit for the Terran arsenal, Factory needed a mobile AA unit and this unit isn't even an AA unit now until the Fusion Core if I'm not mistaken, so obviously it's intended role is drastically changed up from the last patch. It's big, ugly looking and way too slow to micro in an interesting way. The lock on thing kind of makes micro not really "micro" it's more like auto micro for the Terran and some weird run out of vision micro for the opponent. If Blizzard was smart enough to give Zerg the Lurker, and if they really want Terran to have a reliable, meat shield AA factory unit then can we test the Goliath? At least they already have the models for it complete they can just throw some stats on it. Why the hell do you want Goliaths, when you have Vikings (that have the same stats but are a bit more expensive) and Marauders? I've never understood that BW nostalgia drama from the Goliath. Vikings have exactly the same or better stats than Goliaths, except ground movement speed, and have the advantage of being able to fly and escape danger, something that they couldn't do in BW. If you dig in a bit in SC2 developement, Vikings are reworked Goliaths. They were originally Goliaths, with almost the same stats. Then they added the flying mode. Then moved to Starport. But stats were kept. Terran doesn't even need a very very strong dedicated AA unit from the factory. Cyclones are very strong and Thors, even if they are a big damn slow piece of junk, can trash mutas very hard if they catch them unmicroed. If you need dedicated or strong AA, you can tech to a higher tech line like Zergs and Protoss are forced to do. Protoss Robo doesn't even have anti-air, and the Factory already has 3 units that can deal damage to air (Mines, Cyclone, Thor) 2 of them with splash. Factory doesn't need to have the full kit. Game progression exists. As a Terran, you are going to have a mass-control air unit from the Starport to solve the muta problem and Viking/Raven can be a pain (since WoL) in the ass to deal with most air armies.... And hell, you have the best basic AA unit in the game (Marine) than can be easily massed to support your mech army, and BTW, the best AA structure in the game too. It's hilarious to hear a Terran complaining about lacking of AA. The only complain i think its quite reasonable is the Muta pain in the ass. The true thing is that Mech has not a very very (with 2 very's) good meatshield unit, since Hellbats have amazing damage but are damn slow and balanced around that, making them less versatile than a more mobile version of them with less splash aoE or damage per shot. But Hellbats are almost as tanky as a Zealot or a Roach, so it's not bad at all. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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rejectedkiwi
United States8 Posts
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
On May 05 2015 06:29 goiflin wrote: I managed to get invited, despite not being ranked since mid-2014. Perhaps they're sending them to players outside of the top 20% MMR? Or did they disable MMR decay? They disabled it, but a month ago... possibly is to bring back old players. | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
On May 05 2015 06:04 JCoto wrote: Why the hell do you want Goliaths, when you have Vikings (that have the same stats but are a bit more expensive) and Marauders? I've never understood that BW nostalgia drama from the Goliath. Vikings have exactly the same or better stats than Goliaths, except ground movement speed, and have the advantage of being able to fly and escape danger, something that they couldn't do in BW. If you dig in a bit in SC2 developement, Vikings are reworked Goliaths. They were originally Goliaths, with almost the same stats. Then they added the flying mode. Then moved to Starport. But stats were kept. Terran doesn't even need a very very strong dedicated AA unit from the factory. Cyclones are very strong and Thors, even if they are a big damn slow piece of junk, can trash mutas very hard if they catch them unmicroed. If you need dedicated or strong AA, you can tech to a higher tech line like Zergs and Protoss are forced to do. Protoss Robo doesn't even have anti-air, and the Factory already has 3 units that can deal damage to air (Mines, Cyclone, Thor) 2 of them with splash. Factory doesn't need to have the full kit. Game progression exists. As a Terran, you are going to have a mass-control air unit from the Starport to solve the muta problem and Viking/Raven can be a pain (since WoL) in the ass to deal with most air armies.... And hell, you have the best basic AA unit in the game (Marine) than can be easily massed to support your mech army, and BTW, the best AA structure in the game too. It's hilarious to hear a Terran complaining about lacking of AA. The only complain i think its quite reasonable is the Muta pain in the ass. The true thing is that Mech has not a very very (with 2 very's) good meatshield unit, since Hellbats have amazing damage but are damn slow and balanced around that, making them less versatile than a more mobile version of them with less splash aoE or damage per shot. But Hellbats are almost as tanky as a Zealot or a Roach, so it's not bad at all. I actually did not know that the Viking was just a reworked Goliath. Believe me I am a HUGE supporter of buffing Viking ground mode substantially perhaps to eliminate the need of the Cyclone, some people on various forums have posted lots of awesome ideas. I am a Zerg player (should probably just change my pic) but I just want to see mech and sky Terran be awesome and viable, really wish there could be some Tank buffs down the line so they can hold ground better. | ||
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dswarm
United States73 Posts
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On May 04 2015 21:04 DinoMight wrote: Protoss in general just feels really week. Seems like you have to play better than your opponent to win. That's how it should be lol | ||
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Ronski
Finland266 Posts
But I want it to be like HOTS where I can win games while playing worse than my opponent RIP | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
The idea of cyclone is just uninspiring. Zerg units are pretty cool but the lurkers don't t quite _feel_ right. It could be a physics thing? | ||
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
On May 05 2015 07:44 Beelzebub1 wrote: I actually did not know that the Viking was just a reworked Goliath. Believe me I am a HUGE supporter of buffing Viking ground mode substantially perhaps to eliminate the need of the Cyclone, some people on various forums have posted lots of awesome ideas. I am a Zerg player (should probably just change my pic) but I just want to see mech and sky Terran be awesome and viable, really wish there could be some Tank buffs down the line so they can hold ground better. I think than MechTerran / Skyterran is more than viable.... The problem is that many units are quite uninspiring or very limited, needing some rework, and some units can't get their role properly working since they are balance around other aspects, like Hellbats and Banshees. Hellbats may need tweaks, Viking in ground mode or the transition time itself needs tweaks, BC's need to be more interesting and usable..and of course Siege tanks in tank mode. But mech already has a very good kit. - Faster unit ingame with linear AoE that melts light units and morphs into - "meele" meatshield unit with AoE and big damage than can be healed by medivacs. - Money shot mines, that can achieve a brutal cost efficiency, considering how easy they 1-shot things. - Siege tanks that can now be picked and fly with the medivacs (overcoming the weakness of a siege unit) - Cyclones, which are broken, easy to use, and it's really cost efficient (mark unit, unit will be killed 90% of the time) - A walking mass that even if clunky, is good AA vs mutas and has the highest DPS ingame. - Speedyvacs that can drop and press a key to get out of danger with you valuable units. - Long range AA with decent damage. - A good air to ground fighter with decent DPS that can cloak - Air support that blocks the shots of other units. - The damn biggest air tanky unit. - A new unit about to come designed to counter all the air units that were problematic to Mech (mutas, Phoenixes) I think the aspect that fails in most mech armies is production speed and the utility of some units. If banshees were a core unit of Mech (reactored or at least with low production time, like a marauder to bio) they would be even morea amazing to use and that would be a buff to mech. But banshees are balanced around the idea of a harass optimized unit, and more oriented towards lategame where they can be massed in groups of 5-7. More mobile Hellbats that weren't balanced around the idea of 1-shot/2-shot things would be also interesting, and of course tracking turrets for Tanks. | ||
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TurnipThrowingPeach
United States151 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
Vikings have exactly the same or better stats than Goliaths, except ground movement speed, and have the advantage of being able to fly and escape danger, something that they couldn't do in BW. Vikings are less cost efficiency on the ground than the Goliath, and when combined with the buff to production speed toss and zerg received in the late game (relative to BW), your much more penalizied for overproducing AA than in BW. The real issue, however, is that all of the Vikings interactions in the game are extremely boring. IMO it makes more sense to have the anti-armored air unit on the ground and the anti-air light unit on the air. A more mobile Viking with moving shot would feel wonders vs Mutas or perhaps Phoenix for instance while its boring as hell vs Broodlords/Vipers/Carriers. On top of that its also good at preventing stuff from happening such as Overlord drops or Warp Prism drop play. Prior to HOTS, it also made medivacs quite inefficient. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9376 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:49 knOxStarcraft wrote: I'm actually shocked this many of you don't like the beta. I've only played ~45 games but so far it's way way more fun than hots. It feels harder to keep up for sure, but this is a good thing obviously. What issues are you guys seeing that are game breaking right now? Don't know about game-breaking, but the issues that I have with the game are the following ones: (note this isn't compared to HOTS, but rather LOTV compared to how I ideally see the game). General - The damage point of most ranged units is 0.16 instead of 0 - Too many delays in the game. E.g when you burrow, lift, lower supply depots, transform. Terran - Raven is unfun to use and play against. - Cyclones... Worst unit in the game. Its not even about balance, but the fact that it interacts awfully with a lot of units. - Mech lacks some type of mobile AA, without this it will be forced to turtle vs air openings. This might be temporary ofc as the new terran air unit can fix that. - I want a defensive late game mech style to be viable (as in BW where you are spread out all over the map and the opponent has the tools to trade vs you). - Ghosts are boring to play with and play against. - Reaper Bombs are balanced around being spammy with no proper reward, which makes them pretty boring. - BC's are still boring Protoss - Sentry is unfun to use and play against. - Protoss lacks a strong core army - Colossus useless and boring - Immortal is now a boring amove unit with a press-a-button ability in order to "micro". - Oracle still needs a moving shot instead of slow acceleration, weird turn rate and super high DPS vs light. - Void Ray is boring. - Carrier "free units" are dumb. - Mothership Core is unfun to use and unfun to play against. - Zealots are too slow and charge should be replaced with a movement speed buff in order to make them better vs 0 damage point ranged units. Zerg - Ravager got overnerfed into uselessness - Abduct lacks counterplay - Ultralisk is a boring unmicroable unit that is now a hardcounter unit. - New Corrupter ability has boring interactions (gimme unit vs unit interactions instead of structure vs units) and too little counterplay. - Swarm Hosts still spawns free units and therefore prevents any unit vs unit interactions from being created. - Nydus Network is awfully designed. - Overlord drops are underpowered. - Broodlords a big deathball a-move unit that only can be countered by a critical mass of unit. Good stuff LOTV adds relative to HOTS - Disruptors (though Warp Prism pick up range might be too large as it removes counterplay in some situations). Also not sure about such an expensive unit only being usefull every 30th Sc2 second. - Siege Tank pickups are pretty fun - Lurkers are fun. - Ravager skillshots are also fun. The could have been so much better but instead is meh'ish - Adept --> Should be balanced alot more around active shadow useage, so much potential there. - Mech transformations --> Should be a bigger part of the game and frequent useage should be reward during engagements. - 12 worker start. Would have been great if scouting tools became easier accessible as well. - Kinda like the economy. At least I believe that the game - with proper unit design/balance - could be reall good. But I would have prefered this economy along with faster build times on bases + infastructure. TLDR Given how many complaints I have with this game, I don't think I am gonna buy it. Blizzard will surely adress some of the points, but given their track-record there is no reason to expect this game to get significicantly better. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 04 2015 12:49 knOxStarcraft wrote: I'm actually shocked this many of you don't like the beta. I've only played ~45 games but so far it's way way more fun than hots. It feels harder to keep up for sure, but this is a good thing obviously. What issues are you guys seeing that are game breaking right now? Played a lot in the last 3days: 12 worker start: game accelerates too fast with too little information and too little tension between teching and pumpin economy. reduced minerals: hardly any difference to HotS economy. Not sure if this is the 100/60 and it was like this with 100/50, but so far most of my games end on 2-4 mining bases, exactly the same as in HotS. The panick that you need to expand a lot sounds vastly exaggerated. The new stuff is great fun to figure out, but most of it doesn't feel principally fun to play with: lurkers lead to turtle play, besides being quite fun otherwise. Just need a few light nerfs imo. ravagers are very pidgeonholed and I hardly ever see them, nor do I make them Irradiate is just that, one click all your stuff dies hahahahaha Playing against cyclones... let's say it doesn't feel different wheter you visit the bathroom or whether you try to micro; your clicks do nothing Disruptors are between useless and completely broken. Mass Adept and mass Reaper feels like it is either stopped very early, or it just spirals out of control. I guess proper openings with those units are still to be figured out. Ah, and non-Zerg players really need to step up their passion. It's ZvZvZvZvZvZvZ... I feel like I got LotV ZvZ completely figured out at this point, but I don't even know what to do past hatch first in the other two match ups. My impression so far is that it is a ton of fun because it is new, but that would also be true if I tried to pick up WC3 today and had already good WC3 mechanics. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On May 05 2015 23:48 Big J wrote: My impression so far is that it is a ton of fun because it is new, but that would also be true if I tried to pick up WC3 today and had already good WC3 mechanics. Having good WC3 mechanics would imply that WC3 wasn't something new for you so I don't really get your point. I get that there's a lot of novelty involved with the fun of LotV, but objectively the games are different. If they stay different, then thats great. If they don't, then it's bad. Also, my personal impression with every matchup: Lurkers. | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On May 05 2015 23:48 Big J wrote:I feel like I got LotV ZvZ completely figured out at this point, but I don't even know what to do past hatch first in the other two match ups. What do you do in ZvZ? I'm doing 17/17/17 into roach into lurker into get more bases. I'm not sure what to build lategame. | ||
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Creager
Germany1893 Posts
On May 05 2015 18:12 TurnipThrowingPeach wrote: My BF got a key on an alt account that has no Blizzard games purchased on it. This discovery has led me to believe that sometimes invites are truly randomly dispersed. I'm sure they do take the top 20% mmr into consideration, and add those people wave by wave, but it's really weird how they go about it. There's no reason why my BF's main account wouldn't get it first because he has every Blizzard game on it, a WoW subscriber, and plus we are in the pool of Blizzcon attendees that are suppose to have priority. Just cross your fingers and hope for the best, folks. One friend of mine who's still frequently playing SC2 (diamond) got an invite last week while another who hasn't played ladder for ages got one as well, unfortunately I've been too lazy/unmotivated to play for quite some time until they announced changes with the new season (didn't exactly benefit from the mmr decay system ) so I was stuck in gold and now am just slowly crawling back into diamond, currently platinum. Regarding random invites I really seem to be out of luck when it comes to those...But I really hope they'll do something similar at the end of season 2, though, as having a goal like this is a really nice motivating factor to push myself again after such a long period of lurking around only playing few games every season | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On May 06 2015 05:10 Tuczniak wrote: What do you do in ZvZ? I'm doing 17/17/17 into roach into lurker into get more bases. I'm not sure what to build lategame. Those are just my thoughts on it, could be completely wrong but here it goes: Ling/bling openings, because ravagers are crap against it and though burrow move is good it isn't that good to break the meta (I guess?). Especially since with the new timings gasless looks pretty much impossible to pull of, so you need speed and when you go speed I think ling/bling is just way more solid (or rather much less costly) than ling/roach early. From there I'm going mutas, because from mutas you can go right into lurkers and you can skip all the roach and fast upgrade investments. Like 8 lurkers + any form of ling/bling/hydra/muta should deal with anything pretty easily, meanwhile your opponent still has to go spore+infestor+hydra+roach when you open mutalisks and could go mass muta/ling/bling but any ground midgame composition is completely garbage because your lurkers kill 1290741258972189752978 supply of ground units in 2shots. I'm not really sure what to do from there, but if it played out like this I'm usually just ahead and go Broodlords+lurkers with lings and mutas for counter attacks. I guess Vipers could be good too. The exact opening I'm using is double extractor trick, 16hatch, 15overlord, 15pool, 15gas, 20queen, 22queen, 24overlord (don't build an overlord to extend the 22supply limit, the superfast finishing hatch will do that). The interesting follow up question is if I'm right with muta openings being best, can you transition into parasitic bombs or do you have to do the degenerate muta wars again. | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On May 06 2015 05:59 Big J wrote:... Ok, thanks. Maybe I will experiment with mutas more again. Although I don't like going broodlords lategame and utlras didn't work for me against hydra/lurker. So far it often came to state where both sides split some part of map with lurkers and usually both sides went after mutas, but that's little risky. | ||
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TronJovolta
United States323 Posts
I think it's really great as a top Diamond T that Colossi are weaker. I don't like the marauder nerf however, at least coupled with how strong Ultras are now. The cyclone is really really lame. It sucks that it seems like it will definitely be in the final game. Also, the invincible nydus is literally the stupidest thing they've ever done with the game. The more I play the more I like the eco changes. I'm not experienced or smart enough to really speak on the LOTV eco VS double harvester eco though. My assessment so far. Overall, it seems fun, I just hope bio remains viable. | ||
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RyuuZer0
Australia36 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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korrekter
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pulperi
Finland87 Posts
On May 06 2015 10:25 shin_toss wrote: Can someone provide a screenshot of the new minimap? Im just curious Here's one from LotV: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/R6z72Jm.jpg) Close up of minimap: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BkzwE4W.png) And one from HotS as reference: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Bcy2tpl.png) | ||
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LloydRays
United States306 Posts
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Blardy
United States290 Posts
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On May 07 2015 11:01 LloydRays wrote: My b.net restarted to update and I freaked out. No beta. did you have beta before? | ||
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JunZergCola
France5 Posts
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
On May 07 2015 19:33 JunZergCola wrote: Got mine today, so happy mail or access? | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
On May 06 2015 21:57 pulperi wrote: Here's one from LotV: + Show Spoiler + Close up of minimap: + Show Spoiler + And one from HotS as reference: + Show Spoiler + That minimap makes me feel like i'm back in gold league; 20 lings run into my natural and i have no idea where they came from because you cant see the small units on the minimap. I wonder why this isn't fixed yet players have complained about it since the start of beta, they surely can't think that this is still a good idea. | ||
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JCoto
Spain574 Posts
On May 07 2015 20:12 zerge wrote: That minimap makes me feel like i'm back in gold league; 20 lings run into my natural and i have no idea where they came from because you cant see the small units on the minimap. I wonder why this isn't fixed yet players have complained about it since the start of beta, they surely can't think that this is still a good idea. I think that a simple saturation tweak/recolour on the minimap can make it much more visual without altering detail, solving the issue you ask for. Before in HotS you could also tweak minimap quality, I remember having played around with that in some advanced tab of the editor. | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
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JunZergCola
France5 Posts
Didn't get any mail, just saw today on bnet app, after a week not playing sc2 ^^ So i don't really know when i got the access | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
There have been some reports from individuals who felt they were missed from the Top 20% beta wave that went out last week. After looking into these specific reports, we determined that all accounts were flagged accurately during this wave. To help offer transparency on this topic, we wanted to provide details on the criteria we used. We collected every active account that was originated from EU or NA. Then we pulled out every account that had played their placement matches and had earned a rank in Season 1. Those accounts were then stack ranked by MMR and the top 20% were flagged for beta access. We realize there are still numerous active players who are eager to help us test the beta. We’re still flagging accounts on a weekly basis to support our testing needs. There will be multiple opportunities to find your way into the beta and we hope that this process didn’t cause unnecessary confusion for our playerbase. Didn't get an invite? Ensure that: 1. You were ranked in 2015 Season 1, meaning part of a league on the snapshot day: the last day before the season roll. If you hit Leave League, well, that was a dumb and bad idea! 2. You were not underperforming in your league. Demotions don't exist anymore, so if you were a Diamond player but playing Golds because your MMR was really in Gold, that's no longer in the top 20%. 3. You were playing in the NA, EU, or SEA regions. KR isn't approved for beta access yet due to Korean rating board delays (like PEGI or ESRB). 4. You did not experience MMR decay by not playing for the last 2-4 weeks of the season. Points don't matter. Division rank doesn't matter. | ||
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MaRa17
Germany40 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On May 08 2015 15:07 MaRa17 wrote: SEA is also not included! It was. She clarified this on Reddit. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/358ef0/top_20_beta_invites_update_forums/cr236mg My apologies, SEA was given the same treatment as the EU/NA regions. They were pulled separately, stack ranked, and we flagged the Top 20% by MMR. | ||
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Mephtral
Sweden60 Posts
On May 06 2015 05:59 Big J wrote: Those are just my thoughts on it, could be completely wrong but here it goes: Ling/bling openings, because ravagers are crap against it and though burrow move is good it isn't that good to break the meta (I guess?). Especially since with the new timings gasless looks pretty much impossible to pull of, so you need speed and when you go speed I think ling/bling is just way more solid (or rather much less costly) than ling/roach early. From there I'm going mutas, because from mutas you can go right into lurkers and you can skip all the roach and fast upgrade investments. Like 8 lurkers + any form of ling/bling/hydra/muta should deal with anything pretty easily, meanwhile your opponent still has to go spore+infestor+hydra+roach when you open mutalisks and could go mass muta/ling/bling but any ground midgame composition is completely garbage because your lurkers kill 1290741258972189752978 supply of ground units in 2shots. I'm not really sure what to do from there, but if it played out like this I'm usually just ahead and go Broodlords+lurkers with lings and mutas for counter attacks. I guess Vipers could be good too. The exact opening I'm using is double extractor trick, 16hatch, 15overlord, 15pool, 15gas, 20queen, 22queen, 24overlord (don't build an overlord to extend the 22supply limit, the superfast finishing hatch will do that). The interesting follow up question is if I'm right with muta openings being best, can you transition into parasitic bombs or do you have to do the degenerate muta wars again. Do you really think muta openings are neccesary in lotv tho? So far i've been doing hatch -> gas -> pool Get speed with first 100, get bane nest with next 50, add a evo, get +1 melee then add a lair soon after that, and 'rush' towards lurker tech while taking a third, you should be able to hold the third with hydras+queens vs mutas, and then soon after that you got lurkers to defend vs any roach/lingbane pushes, and you can drone up your third pretty safely behind that. in HOTS you wanted the infestors for the big muta numbers, and they helped vs the roach maxouts after the initial few mutas, but i think vipers deal with them fine now, if you just get a fast hive before they reach critical numbers, and lurkers do great against any roach push if you stay defensive and use upgraded lings+lurkers on top of ramps. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 08 2015 16:48 shin_toss wrote: hmm I think the new minimap is okay unless the map is same colored as the units on the map It's really not okay, people are unable to cast games because of it. Blizzard already confirmed it's a bug, so at least we know it will be fixed. | ||
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
And it's silly to undermine your own league system by using MMR instead of leagues/points. | ||
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Pursuit_
United States1330 Posts
On May 08 2015 14:57 Excalibur_Z wrote: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17346884518 Didn't get an invite? Ensure that: 1. You were ranked in 2015 Season 1, meaning part of a league on the snapshot day: the last day before the season roll. If you hit Leave League, well, that was a dumb and bad idea! 2. You were not underperforming in your league. Demotions don't exist anymore, so if you were a Diamond player but playing Golds because your MMR was really in Gold, that's no longer in the top 20%. 3. You were playing in the NA, EU, or SEA regions. KR isn't approved for beta access yet due to Korean rating board delays (like PEGI or ESRB). 4. You did not experience MMR decay by not playing for the last 2-4 weeks of the season. Points don't matter. Division rank doesn't matter. Point 1 at least is irrelevant, because I didn't play a single ranked game in Season 1 2015 and got into the beta. edit: Which interestingly contradicts the statement. Weird. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On May 08 2015 18:34 Pursuit_ wrote: Point 1 at least is irrelevant, because I didn't play a single ranked game in Season 1 2015 and got into the beta. edit: Which interestingly contradicts the statement. Weird. Or you was one of the luckly ones. They are also giving betas to random people. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 08 2015 18:23 Yrr wrote: It's a silly approach to use MMR when people complain about MMR Decay and such beforehand. And it's silly to undermine your own league system by using MMR instead of leagues/points. Yeah they themself showed the flaw in their ranking system. If the 20% top ranked players aren't the 20% top players, the system is bad. Well at least MMR decay is gone now, I still hope they make a more transparent system for LotV, where your rank shows your skill. | ||
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WonnaPlay
Netherlands912 Posts
On May 08 2015 22:56 c0ldfusion wrote: "mostly VT"? Virtual Ticket | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On May 08 2015 14:57 Excalibur_Z wrote: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17346884518 Didn't get an invite? Ensure that: 1. You were ranked in 2015 Season 1, meaning part of a league on the snapshot day: the last day before the season roll. If you hit Leave League, well, that was a dumb and bad idea! 2. You were not underperforming in your league. Demotions don't exist anymore, so if you were a Diamond player but playing Golds because your MMR was really in Gold, that's no longer in the top 20%. 3. You were playing in the NA, EU, or SEA regions. KR isn't approved for beta access yet due to Korean rating board delays (like PEGI or ESRB). 4. You did not experience MMR decay by not playing for the last 2-4 weeks of the season. Points don't matter. Division rank doesn't matter. i was a diamond player playing top diamonds/master players. there is no way i was below the top 20% | ||
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love.less
United Kingdom293 Posts
p.s almost unplayable from europe! 300 ping! | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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Santi
Colombia466 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
But i won't be able to play till sunday -.- | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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boon2537
United States905 Posts
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Pitrocelli
Slovakia127 Posts
Since I never got into any Blizzard RTS beta including WC3 Frozen Throne and HOTS it does not surprise me anymore | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On May 09 2015 19:07 Pitrocelli wrote: I have been around top 0.5% for 2 years in a row. Stopped playing for few months and they took data from that period. Since I never got into any Blizzard RTS beta including WC3 Frozen Throne and HOTS it does not surprise me anymore I never got into any beta before(only after I pre-ordered and got beta key), but then I got Hearthstone beta, and after that HOTS and now LotV. I guess it's because I spent a lot of money on the Hearthstone beta, then on the HoTS beta | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3353 Posts
edit: I m speaking of season 1 2015. I guess i was lucky to be active at the right period | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
originally just wanted lotv to play campaign to be honest | ||
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JulDraGoN
Sweden370 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:22 las91 wrote: Got a key, is the game worth playing right now? I was Protoss for my wol/hots career but I haven't played in a long time and all I've heard is P really sucks in the game right now originally just wanted lotv to play campaign to be honest It's a beta. Don't have too high of an expectation. My advice play random and have fun exploring the madhouse. | ||
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Jinchu
89 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
On May 10 2015 03:22 las91 wrote: Got a key, is the game worth playing right now? I was Protoss for my wol/hots career but I haven't played in a long time and all I've heard is P really sucks in the game right now originally just wanted lotv to play campaign to be honest to be honest idk right now at least from my games its been only allins, bane allins, roach burrow silliness, weird protoss stuff but thats normal i guess and siege drops into mass cyclones lol. me personally I not sure i like it so far, but thats cause i like actual build orders and such instead of this randomness, but I've heard alot of ppl like the crazy chaotic game play but its to random for me right now. I think it will be much better when things get better figured out but not sure right now how i feel. also i play random, if that matters, and i tell my race. | ||
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NiDoXiD
Germany28 Posts
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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fantasi
5 Posts
top plat last season and this season i was finally promoted to diamond. no beta invite yet... on the other hand my friend who hasn't played in over a year and did NOT purchase blizzcon tickets gets an invite. wtf. WHERE IS MY BETA INVITE BLIZZARD?! you are missing out on a good tester! | ||
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
On May 14 2015 12:31 fantasi wrote: been top plat for 15 seasons since the very first wol season. always played random to test out all races. top plat last season and this season i was finally promoted to diamond. no beta invite yet... on the other hand my friend who hasn't played in over a year and did NOT purchase blizzcon tickets gets an invite. wtf. WHERE IS MY BETA INVITE BLIZZARD?! you are missing out on a good tester! Don't feel bad guys! There really is nothing to miss.... this beta is really lack luster... enjoy HOTS till Blizzard fixes this Beta lol, it is more like a Pre alpha :-p | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
all the more reason why Blizzard needs more passionate testers | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On May 14 2015 22:52 c0ldfusion wrote: beta has been kind of bad yeah all the more reason why Blizzard needs more passionate testers Like me, dammit! | ||
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zerge
Germany162 Posts
On May 11 2015 05:17 TurboMaN wrote: From Germany it's not really fun to play at the moment. It's way too laggy, so you don't miss much. That's strange, i'm from germany as well and i have zero lagg. It's pretty much the same as eu server for me. | ||
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
On May 14 2015 23:44 zerge wrote: That's strange, i'm from germany as well and i have zero lagg. It's pretty much the same as eu server for me. It depends on the time of the day and on your isp as well. When there is a lot of traffic between EU and NA the lag gets usually worse, for example at EU primetime. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Zetter
Germany629 Posts
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Kashim
Poland1199 Posts
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Hularuns
United Kingdom37 Posts
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ETisME
12385 Posts
I can't stop the tears, no emails btw | ||
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ZeroReverse
Bulgaria108 Posts
Just for info recently I started playing HOTS again and got 60% win ratio, currently placed in diamond. Not sure if this was the trigger. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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sperY
Serbia444 Posts
Maybe the trigger was my rapid ladder rise. From plat to masters in short time (thx mmr decay) | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
They also expanded who they're inviting. A little beyond the top 20% now. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Taefox
1533 Posts
On May 24 2015 04:18 Excalibur_Z wrote: https://twitter.com/ZoeviaBlizzard/status/601795648124518400 They also expanded who they're inviting. A little beyond the top 20% now. lie, QQ I haven't played SC2 for half an year but Hearthstone and Heroes of The storm, still get in today | ||
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cava
United States1035 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10670 Posts
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eXeTimelog
Netherlands29 Posts
On May 24 2015 05:24 Taefox wrote: Next to the focused wave there always also is a random wave. You just got lucky ^.^lie, QQ I haven't played SC2 for half an year but Hearthstone and Heroes of The storm, still get in today | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2547 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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ataraxis
United Kingdom3 Posts
Only problem now is that I'm facing loads of diamond/plat opponents... | ||
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bulletbill
Canada33 Posts
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Juice!
Belgium295 Posts
Anyone has any knowledge on that because i can't find anything about it | ||
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