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Late thread my bad. Edward (of M5/Gambit and later UoL infamy) has now retired. Seems like this off-season really was the end of an era. | ||
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Gahlo
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Yeah, another Upset to TSM rumor. I've heard this one before. | ||
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On April 26 2021 23:27 Gahlo wrote: Rumors that TSM is going to buy out Upset from Fnatic if PoE's green card gets approved in time. Yeah, another Upset to TSM rumor. I've heard this one before. So uh...LCS just gonna turn into a green card competition? | ||
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Gahlo
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On April 29 2021 16:57 AdsMoFro wrote: So uh...LCS just gonna turn into a green card competition? Nothing really changed. Teams have been shedding mediocre, overpriced NA players that they had to drag along due to league rules for years. Only difference now is the turnover rate is predicated on greencard/citizenship and not time played. Not that Lost *really* counts, since he's from OCE and is only exempt because that League shuttered. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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But yeah Fnatic is absolutely dead. Maybe they convince one of the 5 to stay and build a team around them. 100% Upset goes to NA next year | ||
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Fnatic needs changes but they're not dead yet in my opinion. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Actually after looking at all of the adcs in the LCS most of them are mediocre as fuck. Shocked no one would give Arrow even some games | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Clearly its not a money issue or he wouldn't be in amateur, so its just surprising no team thought it could be beneficial to have another adc on their team | ||
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DarkCore
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I didn't mean to suggest that he is new talent that needs to be coached, more that he is a known entity who would be a good replacement for the bottom half of ADCs in the LCS. | ||
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Gahlo
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On April 30 2021 22:15 DarkCore wrote: I just don"t understand NA anymore, why is your region sop backwards when it comes to fostering talent? If you're a good team, developing NA talent doesn't satisfy the fan's level of expected play. If you're a middling team, you can't afford to miss playoffs and lose out on sponsors. If you're not any of the above, you need to find a way to grow a fanbase to make yourself attractive to sponsors. Nobody wants to root for a team that has a coinflip chance to be awful. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On May 12 2021 01:56 LightningStrike wrote: Selfmade and LIDER to Vitality In other, completely unrelated news. Adam has officially left KCorp because he received an offer from "a major league team" | ||
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LightningStrike
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On May 13 2021 04:00 chipmonklord17 wrote: In other, completely unrelated news. Adam has officially left KCorp because he received an offer from "a major league team" Well that major league team is Fnatic with Bwipo maybe role swapping to jungle? | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On May 13 2021 07:58 LightningStrike wrote: Well that major league team is Fnatic with Bwipo maybe role swapping to jungle? Oh sorry, that was the joke. That Selfmade leaving Fnatic and Adam leaving KCorp were totally completely most definitely not related. To be honest I don't really understand the point in Fnatic's shoes. You may as well pick up an ERL jungler too and have Bwipo as a sub top than bother to roll swap him. Unless his contract has some "must be the starter" clause it just doesn't make sense to pick up a new starting top laner and keep your old top laner as a jungler, just get an ERL guy with promise at this point. Just looking at the EUM rosters they could have totally made a play for Cinkrof or Shlatan. Hell you could super gamble and pick up Markoon. I just don't understand if you want to make the "role-swap Bwipo" gamble why you wouldn't just go all the way. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Still think they should have grabbed an EUM jungler while they were at it just in case | ||
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DarkCore
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I always thought Selfmade was slumping, he's really good but the team just didn't mesh together so he looked lost. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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I don't blame Fnatic for doing this at this point, they know they have 2 players 100% walking after this split (Bwipo and Selfmade have already announced they won't resign) and know Hyli was going to leave last off season and only signed a 1 year deal. So if Adam really is going to be the next big top laner you might as well grab him as soon as you can. I definitely still question the org for letting the situation get to this point in the first place, letting Caps, Rekkles, Selfmade and likely Bwipo AND Hyli go thru sheer incompetence but I at least understand where they were coming from making at least the Adam choice. Other "half" of this set of rumors officially announced as well. Vitality has picked up Selfmade, as well as Lider and SLT and 'rebranded' to match their new player's attitudes. V for Villains announced | ||
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chipmonklord17
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In other news, Tynx is out of a job with Treatz role swapping to jungle and Jesiz swapping from head coach back to support. Seems kind of crazy that this is a few days after Lider said no one wants to play with Tynx, mentioning that a few years back Obsess was going to get benched for Tynx until all 4 other members of the team refused to play with him | ||
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Gahlo
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On May 30 2021 04:52 Sent. wrote: Zven moved to C9's academy team, Mithy replacing their head coach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGdn3KuIMpo wat wat wat I am very, very confused. | ||
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Gahlo
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The season can start later and the post Spring => Summer gap for non playoff teams is too long. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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I don't know what the answer is, and I think Riot has a lot more to fix before they tackle offseasons that are slightly too long | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Now you could definitely argue that because of how utterly stupid NA's format is there's no reasonable way that those top three could fuck up their standings based on their spring splits, but that's a separate topic. Side note, holy shit I forgot Summer was TRIPLE round robin. Whos ready for the second coming of play in MSI group A. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Said tournament would never ever be allowed to interfere with MSI so you either have to make it before or after. If you don't bar the good teams from playing their orgs WILL make them play in said tournament, so having a qualifier would still just result in the best teams in the region have yet another event to play in that they don't want to, ala Rift Rivals. If you do bar the top orgs from playing who's going to watch it? Would anyone really want to watch an international tournament where a group could be Brion/IMT/AXIS/KLG (random low placing teams from the same respective regions as group C MSI)? I mean maybe for kicks? | ||
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On June 01 2021 04:12 Sent. wrote: What's silly is the amount of downtime players from bottom teams get, both those who get eliminated early in the playoffs and who don't make it there at all. They spend like a third of the year with no opportunity to win anything or even gain exposure from playing in a serious event. I think it evens out, they can still scrim and have more time to figure out why their roster performed poorly. It's a good time for intensive coaching because they don't have to prepare for an opponent every week. I do wish there were more minor tournaments though. Something like a Europa League for mid tier teams. But it would probably be abysmal quality, LPL and LCK are stacked, but LEC and LCS fall off hard outside of the top teams, I expect the same for minor regions. | ||
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On June 01 2021 04:21 chipmonklord17 wrote: Again, how do you fix that? Do you run a reverse MSI where the regions worst teams compete? Do you do a tournament with qualifiers that you can only enter if you reached X place or worse in the regular split/play offs? When would that take place? Said tournament would never ever be allowed to interfere with MSI so you either have to make it before or after. If you don't bar the good teams from playing their orgs WILL make them play in said tournament, so having a qualifier would still just result in the best teams in the region have yet another event to play in that they don't want to, ala Rift Rivals. If you do bar the top orgs from playing who's going to watch it? Would anyone really want to watch an international tournament where a group could be Brion/IMT/AXIS/KLG (random low placing teams from the same respective regions as group C MSI)? I mean maybe for kicks? There's no need to intefere with MSI or to organize an interregional event. You could take bottom tier LEC teams and top national teams and have them play in something like EU masters, with games being scheduled on Thursdays or right before MSI games. There's also enough time to hold a shorter tournament after MSI. Yeah, the viewership would be much lower than usual, but it's still better than nothing. Make it a normal event with a standard structure instead of weird stuff like Rift Rivals or super weird stuff like All-stars. If EU masters is a sanctity they don't want to tinker with, they could try to organize something with bottom tier LEC teams and top Turkish/CIS teams. NA could do the same with Brazilian and Latin American teams. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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I can't stress enough that I agree with you that the current format gives potentially too much time off for bad teams and definitely too little time off for good teams, but I don't know what can be done about it in reality juggling the need to not interfere with MSI, while giving teams enough time to make roster moves and get into the swing of things for summer while making it so the solution isn't "well what if everyone has too little time off" | ||
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Team owners probably wouldn't agree to participate in such system though. Imagine getting demolished by an amateur team and having to come up with an explanation why they shouldn't replace you in the main league. | ||
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Uldridge
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There's still scrims, meetings, soloQ grinding, fundamentals that need to be brushed up and more cerebral things like understanding the meta. Their careers are playing the game at the highest level, playing the game outside of the scope of a tournament is therefore not necessarily time off. | ||
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On June 07 2021 21:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: Scout is now an LPL resident, so expect EDG to import a top or a jungle player in the offseason EDG Alphari? | ||
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DarkCore
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I hope Alphari comes back to EU and gets a proper team. | ||
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On June 10 2021 04:51 Slusher wrote: Are teams just making roster moves to Flex on the players at this point I'm not even sure, Yasui is garbage Literally yes, IMT. Pretty will play versus EG and Insanity will play the rest. | ||
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Gahlo
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On June 30 2021 05:31 DarkCore wrote: So much money, I seriously wonder how much a spot in LPL and LCS is worth. Is the exposure sponsors get really worth 25+ million? The people that have the money think it is, and you don't get rich throwing money down a toilet. | ||
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DarkCore
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And I've seen multiple Western pros state that the long regular season is a big practice advantage for LPL, they basically play twice as many games, ofc they're going to be competitive. | ||
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Gahlo
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On July 02 2021 10:30 chipmonklord17 wrote: Why can NA fucking academy be best of 2s but LCS and LEC will be best of 1 until the end of time. Because they don't really care if people watch Academy. | ||
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On July 03 2021 00:14 Gahlo wrote: Because they don't really care if people watch Academy. I hate that you're probably right | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Kind of wild. Their academy roster is supposedly playing super well and FQ looks awful in LCS. Still don't really understand why Licorice wants to join this GGS lineup unless they've already promised him they'll torpedo the whole thing. So much for their development roster lmao | ||
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AdsMoFro
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Bjerg coming back?! | ||
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If he goes to another NA team, I think I'd just stop paying any attention to League. | ||
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AdsMoFro
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On September 13 2021 03:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: I guess alternatively you keep your ownership, TSM eats the loss of getting rid of PoE/holding him in contract prison, and you replace lost with whatever Chinese ADC swordart desires TSM won't be eating a loss on PoE. They'll get a PHATTT transfer fee for him for sure. | ||
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Gahlo
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On September 14 2021 01:23 Slusher wrote: if Swordart's deal is any indication TSM aren't the best negotiators There's something about pay being double taxed when signing a Chinese player that made the number so large. | ||
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On September 14 2021 05:22 Gahlo wrote: There's something about pay being double taxed when signing a Chinese player that made the number so large. who has to pay that tax is part of the negotiation, TSM eating the entire cost for Swordart was a failure of negotiation. But I guess that is up to interpretation, I think it was reasonable to think Perkz would be worth his cost, I think Swordart after his performance at worlds was big mistake, and I said this at the time, not just now that they didn't make the playoffs you can check in this thread. | ||
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On September 14 2021 07:14 chipmonklord17 wrote: I do think Swordart was a mistake for TSM, but also think that part of the issue was how badly TSM was built in general and not Swordart specifically. Botching the DL re-signing really really hurt that roster and their choice to go with a passive ADC in Lost over an aggro ADC like DoubleLift really hurt their team compositionally. A world where TSM's botlane is DL/SwordArt goes much differently, as does a world where TSM takes Palette for presumably significantly cheaper than SwordArt and they go spending that saved money on a different adc. Given how DL has been since he's retired, I don't think the difference is as large as one would usually assume. DL just doesn't have it in him to compete anymore. Probably would have still made worlds, but overall been an unsatisfying year. Palette straight up didn't speak English at all, which is why they dropped pursuing him. By then the only decently skilled available native ADC was Sneaky. | ||
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On September 15 2021 05:57 chipmonklord17 wrote: If I remember correctly, as I heard it, they were pursuing Palette until DL said his support must speak better english so they stopped, then lost DL anyway. But that definitely could have been a team wide decision. On a separate but related note, shame on almost every team in NA for not getting Maple when he left LGD. I believe it was Nelson pointed out that not only was a free agent, he also speaks English. Meaning you could have gotten a legitimate world class mid laner for free agent price that could actually help your team achieve something at worlds. Way I always heard it was DL asked for a world class support so they went after Swordart. Negotiations looked like they weren't going well so they asked DL if he had any suggestions, to which he said Palette. Through negotiations they found out he didn't speak English and told DL, who told them he wasn't interested and was going to retire in that case. Then Swordart's contract was finalized and DL tried to come back, but with 2017 Spring and the way negotiations went, they told DL there wasn't a spot for him. | ||
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On September 16 2021 04:44 chipmonklord17 wrote: Turns out, even without Perkz G2 can get accused of poaching/tampering Good to see Carlos is still scum. Some things never change. | ||
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https://twitter.com/Esportmaniacos/status/1438140996861181953 G2 Falco and G2B2 looks all but confirmed and no teams appearently want to pick up Wunder. Rumours about Mikyx also being on his way out. My guess is Mikyx will be part of a trade deal. Treatz or Advienne? | ||
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On September 17 2021 04:43 Gahlo wrote: Treatz pls. Crazy that Treatz was rotting in NA Academy and he's now one of the best supps in EU | ||
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On September 17 2021 07:27 AdsMoFro wrote: Crazy that Treatz was rotting in NA Academy and he's now one of the best supps in EU If there's anything that's certain it's that TSM has zero clue how ready their Academy players are for pro play. | ||
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Article specifically mentions VIT and the new BDS as being interested in Wunder/Mikyx/Grabbz. | ||
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On September 22 2021 05:52 chipmonklord17 wrote: G2 looking to keep Caps and Jankos, get rid of Mikyx, Wunder, and Grabbz. Rekkles unknown Article specifically mentions VIT and the new BDS as being interested in Wunder/Mikyx/Grabbz. There's been rumors G2 is trying to get BB. | ||
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G2 need a proactive shotcaller like Perkz again, wonder how they will try to solve that problem. | ||
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Rekkles gone from G2 it would appear. | ||
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On September 30 2021 02:45 Slusher wrote: It really was Elements v2 Name swap to E2 confirmed? | ||
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Allegedly | ||
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On October 01 2021 09:46 chipmonklord17 wrote: It is very interesting in retrospect that the only other team that voted against changing poaching/tampering rules against G2 was VIT, the very team negotiating for Rekkles in that time frame. Allegedly I think VIT made a statement that the issue with tampering isn't the rules not being good enough, but that the current rules aren't being enforced. | ||
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On October 02 2021 01:56 Gahlo wrote: I think VIT made a statement that the issue with tampering isn't the rules not being good enough, but that the current rules aren't being enforced. Because alternatively they were going to come out and say "We're actively negotiating with G2 and voting against them would be a bad look right now". Not saying there's any foul play involved or anything malicious. Just that its weird they just so happen to be the two teams on the same side On October 02 2021 00:00 JimmiC wrote: Im hoping with Uzi coming back he ends up NA or EU. Would love to see him terrorizing people more often! Unless the news has changed Uzi started a Wild Rift team, I doubt he's coming back to play and I'd be very interested in how Riot would handle the situation of one player being a team owner in one of their games while playing for a different team | ||
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Also as expected given the current situation Crownshot is allowed to look for other teams | ||
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On October 03 2021 05:51 JimmiC wrote: Oh, was unaware. I just heard he was healthy and may come back and he has the skill IMO to be what piglet was susposed to be. Yeah he sadly went to Wild Rift | ||
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Even more huge news. G2 benches Wunder, Rekless. MikyX, and lets go of Grabbz AND Nelson as well as the rest of their supporting staff. Team will rebuild around Jankos and Caps. End of a fucking era | ||
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Crazy that Jankos will stick around, I thought he would be the one to retire. Glad he still has it in him, hopefully the next roster will work out. | ||
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Further related, someone followed up that video by asking if the org was going through a rebuilding phase (aka investing in rookies) or was building a roster to be competitive for worlds next year and the answer was winning next year. So don't expect ERL talents to be finding their way to G2 | ||
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On October 12 2021 07:19 chipmonklord17 wrote: Is that actually true though? I thought that was just a meme. Further related, someone followed up that video by asking if the org was going through a rebuilding phase (aka investing in rookies) or was building a roster to be competitive for worlds next year and the answer was winning next year. So don't expect ERL talents to be finding their way to G2 Nothing is true yet, free agency hasn't even started so even though this isn't a free agent situation, I don't think anything can be finalized. It's a move that makes sense from the outside if Bjergsen is returning to pro play and to TSM. | ||
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On October 12 2021 10:46 Gahlo wrote: Nothing is true yet, free agency hasn't even started so even though this isn't a free agent situation, I don't think anything can be finalized. It's a move that makes sense from the outside if Bjergsen is returning to pro play and to TSM. Sure but there's a difference between a rumor and a "Thorin likes shitting on these two things so him and all his friends meme about it". Also both Grabbz and Duffman have referenced that they're sticking together wherever their next team is. So some team is about to gain an incredible coaching staff upgrade. | ||
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On October 12 2021 22:13 chipmonklord17 wrote: Sure but there's a difference between a rumor and a "Thorin likes shitting on these two things so him and all his friends meme about it". Also both Grabbz and Duffman have referenced that they're sticking together wherever their next team is. So some team is about to gain an incredible coaching staff upgrade. Most of the big rumor reporters wait until things are already done but not public yet. It's all rumors about talks right now. As a rule I don't pay attention to what Thorin does anymore. | ||
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On October 13 2021 03:21 Gahlo wrote: Most of the big rumor reporters wait until things are already done but not public yet. It's all rumors about talks right now. As a rule I don't pay attention to what Thorin does anymore. You do you but he also was one of if not the first people to break the G2 news | ||
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On October 13 2021 09:46 chipmonklord17 wrote: You do you but he also was one of if not the first people to break the G2 news That's cool. He also screamed up and down about conflict of interest when DL rejoined TSM while dating Leena - conveniently overlooking that if that was a reasonable consideration he should have been doing it a long time before then when they started dating. | ||
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On October 21 2021 14:30 JimmiC wrote: Wouldn't it make sense if their part owner is coming back to mid lane? I'm sure they would rather someone else pay POE and POE would probably rather play then sit on the pine. Sounds like a win/win if POE finds something he likes. That's the joke | ||
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Not gonna lie, I really REALLY want him to go back to EU, hopefully with Alphari. Maybe Vitality? Perkz also most likely going back to EU, according to Dot Esports | ||
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On October 29 2021 10:29 chipmonklord17 wrote: I definitely think SwordArt out of TSM is the best for both parties to be honest. The Jensen/Core bot lane sounds very intriguing but I don't know. I'm surprised Jensen wants to role swap too, no offense to him but Perkz is a freak of nature 1 in a million level talent, I don't think Jensen would be the best adc in the west in a year Yeah, he also had Caps as his replacement in mid. Don't think anybody with a brain would argue Bjergsen is at quite the same level. | ||
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On October 29 2021 10:29 chipmonklord17 wrote: I definitely think SwordArt out of TSM is the best for both parties to be honest. The Jensen/Core bot lane sounds very intriguing but I don't know. I'm surprised Jensen wants to role swap too, no offense to him but Perkz is a freak of nature 1 in a million level talent, I don't think Jensen would be the best adc in the west in a year Jensen has said he loves (not just willing to play it) playing ADC for years now and play it fairly often in soloQ. I would not be concerned one bit about him roleswapping and honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if he turns out to be better at it than mid. With all respect to Perkz I never really thought he was a world class ADC. He was exactly what the rest of G2 lineup needs to shine, a leader and he feels like one of if not the best captains in League in a botlane meta that suited him to a tee. | ||
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On October 30 2021 00:56 Jek wrote: Jensen has said he loves (not just willing to play it) playing ADC for years now and play it fairly often in soloQ. I would not be concerned one bit about him roleswapping and honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if he turns out to be better at it than mid. With all respect to Perkz I never really thought he was a world class ADC. He was exactly what the rest of G2 lineup needs to shine, a leader and he feels like one of if not the best captains in League in a botlane meta that suited him to a tee. I will say I could see bot being good for Jensen given his stereotypical lack of roaming play style in mid where bot doesn't really need to roam. But I really don't see how Jensen mid + import adc wouldn't just be better than Bjerg/Jensen Unrelated but Bwipo is reportedly leaving Fnatic and going back to top lane. TL is interested if Alphari leaves, I honestly don't know if I'd pick up Bwipo as a GM after this worlds but to each their own I suppose. Rumor is Fnatic got Razork, which is a really nice pick up. SwordArt officially out of TSM | ||
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On October 30 2021 06:44 JimmiC wrote: When can players actuallu be signed? Is it right after worlds? I believe its about 2 weeks from now? Either the 14th or the 17th or something like that. Also Odo was hospitalized in Iceland and on pain meds through the group stage. Adds more context to how EU did so poorly this year. | ||
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DarkCore
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G2 picks up an EUM ADC, it's the start of some spicy off season trades again. | ||
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DarkCore
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On November 05 2021 07:40 FaCE_1 wrote: so that's a 0 NA player roster. Nice This meme was predicted in like season 4 and here we are. It's honestly a bit sad for NA. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On November 05 2021 07:40 FaCE_1 wrote: so that's a 0 NA player roster. Nice Its the SECOND 0 NA player roster assuming 100T runs it back | ||
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Gahlo
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On November 05 2021 21:59 chipmonklord17 wrote: Its the SECOND 0 NA player roster assuming 100T runs it back 3rd, LMQ. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Do they really count though? There was no import rule when they were here | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Holy shit, super fucking scummy from G2 and absolutely ridiculous from Riot to let it go because a different issue happened to come up. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On November 11 2021 08:20 chipmonklord17 wrote: Allegedly, the C9 buyout contract with G2 included a clause saying C9 couldn't sell Perkz to Fnatic for the three years. Riot has decided not to punish either team because negotiations between Perkz and Fnatic fell through this off season but has said those terms aren't allowed moving forward. Holy shit, super fucking scummy from G2 and absolutely ridiculous from Riot to let it go because a different issue happened to come up. Riot issued a statement saying everything was true and that they would not enforce such a stipulation now nor allow one in the future. | ||
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On November 11 2021 08:45 Gahlo wrote: Regi and DL flinging shit at each other the last couple days. It's like watching good old high school drama. All the popcorn, but still a little bit too painful to read because of how petulant it all is that it makes you want to read something else instead. Makes you appreciate Faker a lot more as he just appears more mature and handles a lot of controversies that would have had far more fire to the flame with his benchings. | ||
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On November 11 2021 17:19 Apex wrote: It's like watching good old high school drama. All the popcorn, but still a little bit too painful to read because of how petulant it all is that it makes you want to read something else instead. Makes you appreciate Faker a lot more as he just appears more mature and handles a lot of controversies that would have had far more fire to the flame with his benchings. To be fair, people memed Kkoma belt but I don't think he was a raging narcissist like Reginald. I'm sure he has had some difficult times with T1, coaches seemed to really force their opinions over the knowledgeable players sometimes. But Regi has been since forever for his attitude, just remember how long it took for him to step down as a player or the complaints of people who have worked with him over the years. | ||
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Gahlo
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On November 11 2021 17:19 Apex wrote: It's like watching good old high school drama. All the popcorn, but still a little bit too painful to read because of how petulant it all is that it makes you want to read something else instead. Makes you appreciate Faker a lot more as he just appears more mature and handles a lot of controversies that would have had far more fire to the flame with his benchings. It's a shame that there isn't, at least publicly, a probe investigating Regi's alleged recent "gamer moments" with players, and more focus on Regi and DL bickering. On November 12 2021 00:55 DarkCore wrote: To be fair, people memed Kkoma belt but I don't think he was a raging narcissist like Reginald. I'm sure he has had some difficult times with T1, coaches seemed to really force their opinions over the knowledgeable players sometimes. But Regi has been since forever for his attitude, just remember how long it took for him to step down as a player or the complaints of people who have worked with him over the years. He stepped down in 2013, and even then he was still a top 3 mid in NA. | ||
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DarkCore
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No one with the power to probe wants to do it, there's a lot of money at stake and big enemies to be made. Instead we get some more juicy Doublelift drama, which will blow over like usual. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Here's his full chain of reports/rumors/whatever. River to Dig would be weird if true | ||
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On November 16 2021 09:07 chipmonklord17 wrote: Rekkles officially joined KCorp until the end of 2023. What a wild timeline already KCorp surely buy-out an LEC slot sooner rather than later. They've already got a roster that would challenge half of the LEC. | ||
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On November 16 2021 10:49 AdsMoFro wrote: KCorp surely buy-out an LEC slot sooner rather than later. They've already got a roster that would challenge half of the LEC. They don't have a jungler or support at the moment so I'll wait on see on that. But their roster on paper has a lot of potential. Also super sad for the Mikyx to TSM, I like him too much for TSM | ||
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DarkCore
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On November 16 2021 11:49 chipmonklord17 wrote: Also all of these western moves are here and good but LPL about to blow up in the next few days and I'm here for that Yes, I expect only EDG to come out relatively unscathed. There is enough S tier talent on the market to build 2 superteams alone, the question is if the stars will align to allow for it. Throw in some inevitable KR imports and you can expect another exciting year for LPL. | ||
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Gahlo
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https://lolesports.com/article/lcs-2022-format-update/bltec9364825d050f86 LCS: Splits are 8 weeks. Back to 5 games Sat/Sun, two "super weeks" with 5 more games on Friday. Records don't carry over between splits. Spring playoffs is 6 teams, double elim, 1st seed gets to choose 3rd or 4th seed as round 1 opponent. Summer playoffs is 8 teams, 1 and 2 seed get a bye, 1 seed gets to choose which side of the bracket they're on. Additional: Champions Queue will be matchmaking on a West Coast server for high skilled players serious about improvement. Academy/Amateur: Don't care enough to give cliffnotes. | ||
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Pantagruel
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Top - Summit Jungle - Blaber Mid - Fudge Support - Winsome ADC - Berserker With Isles and possibly Zven (if he can’t be sold I suspect) potentially competing for bot lane. I think this could be a top tier roster for NA standards but it carries a lot of risk as well. Imports are always a gamble as to how well they adapt to living in America and that could affect their play. However because they imported 2.5 Koreans I think that could help smooth the process since they won’t be totally isolated. The other big question mark is how Fudge will perform in mid. He was ultimately a strong top laner and improved a lot over time so I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that he takes to mid well and becomes a top class mid laner, but it’s certainly not guaranteed. Either way, it should be fun to watch this team. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On a separate note, Nongshim imploded and I'm kind of sad. The team was actually pretty good | ||
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On November 18 2021 11:08 chipmonklord17 wrote: I'm really curious what language they'll be speaking primarily, as Summit/Winsome/Berserker are all fluent in Korean and Winsome(presumably)/Blabber/Fudge are fluent in English. From the content C9 releases Blabber's comms have sounded atrocious from the get go, so I'm a little worried what a mixed language roster will be like. But these are the type of imports I actually want in the region, being the more up and comers instead of the "lets see if 5 years into his career off peak Flame can carry us to worlds" tier imports so I'm over all excited. Wasn't there a team in LCS that imploded partially because there was no communication between their Korean and North American players? I think Keane was on that team. | ||
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On November 19 2021 01:04 Sent. wrote: Wasn't there a team in LCS that imploded partially because there was no communication between their Korean and North American players? I think Keane was on that team. I think it was a Dignitas team where the coach wouldn't even speak to the NA players, only the Korean players. What a time that was... | ||
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DarkCore
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At least EDG managed to keep Viper and Meiko. The rumour mill thinks a super team will be formed around Uzi, that would be a real highlight for any LPL viewer. | ||
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On November 23 2021 17:10 DarkCore wrote: Bwipo goes to TL. Kind of sad, but not that surprising, he seems to have burnt a few bridges at Fnatic, Worlds was just a gigantic mess for them. And Inspired goes to EG. EU is bleeding quite a lot of talent again this year. At least EDG managed to keep Viper and Meiko. The rumour mill thinks a super team will be formed around Uzi, that would be a real highlight for any LPL viewer. Hahaha yes https://twitter.com/teamliquidlol/status/1463205713161830403?s=21 | ||
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On November 24 2021 12:10 Gahlo wrote: TL Bjergsen confirmed. Unbelievable to even think of a year ago...We'll see how this TL team goes. I think the biggest question is whether Santorin's health can stand a full year of playing? | ||
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DarkCore
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Chovy to GenG, what a bummer for BDD considering this was a good year for him. But Chhovy fans should rejoice, he's finally on a solid team with a top side that aren't muppets, so he better perform. And apparently Bo is coming to LCK, the first ever CN import. Not too sure what to make of it,, Bo is good but hhe doesn't exactly have a stellar track record. | ||
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https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsot2 How is this team so good at signing players who keep doing highly controversial things | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On November 25 2021 04:04 Sent. wrote: Adam reveals he still doesn't know why Upset had to leave while explaining why he chose to depart from Fnatic https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srsot2 How is this team so good at signing players who keep doing highly controversial things He sounds more like a whining child than a professional, probably because he is actually a child. Upset doesn't owe him the details, nor does he deserve his spot on the team if the team can get a significant upgrade in Alphari. I understand feeling frustrated, but he has to understand that there's a legion of rabid fans behind him when he says stupid shit. On another note, I'm really intrigued by this Nongshim roster. Ghost should be able to play a similar role that he did on Damwon with Canna and Bdd being his solo laners. Should be a good team, maybe not LCK winners, but pretty damn good | ||
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Jek
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Hats off to Upset for protecting his and his loved ones private life and hats off to Yamato for respecting it. | ||
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DarkCore
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at least until he says why he really left BECAUSE until today, Upset just left to join his girlfriend because she felt bad to be alone, and maybe I'm wrong who knows - Then why suggest it? There's nothing urgent because otherwise he would have told us. And personally, I don't give a damn about the privacy reason when I worked, we all worked hard for 1 year to reach the Worlds. Knowing that even the management of Fnatic still doesn't know, eh? Imo it's far more likely that the people who knew the reason didn't tell Adam because he has no business knowing, just like most people in Fnatic's org. But it sounds like Adam didn't consider that being a possibility. I'm not trying to create any drama Ah yes, twitlonger posts are infamous in the LoL scene for being very undramatic, that's why they rarely make it to the front page of the subreddit. On another note, I'm really intrigued by this Nongshim roster. Ghost should be able to play a similar role that he did on Damwon with Canna and Bdd being his solo laners. Should be a good team, maybe not LCK winners, but pretty damn good It looks like a cool team, but with T1 opening the floodgates and selling of their subs/development players, there's a good chance we see some new mid tier LCK teams forming who can overshadow them. I wonder where deokdam is going, he was my favourite player on that roster. | ||
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What a wild coincidence. Maybe I'm just reading too much into this + Dom/LS/Dgon 'joking' about C9 playing in KeSPA Cup | ||
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On November 26 2021 06:49 AdsMoFro wrote: Adam's what? 18? 19? Realistically might never have had to face a similar situation in his life and doesn't understand how to process it. Hopefully, the people closest to him guide him through it and he learns and grows from this. He had months to think it over. If he still arrives at the conclusion Upset left for some trivial reason after that long.................. | ||
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Mithy, Reapered, and Freeze to coach 100T. | ||
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On December 02 2021 11:55 Gahlo wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju4n8pNHnYs Mithy, Reapered, and Freeze to coach 100T. C9 bought all of LS's sons and thenhired him as coach. This will either be legendary or a great ball of fire. | ||
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DarkCore
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Zeus, Oner, Faker, Gumi, Keria (Asper) On paper, this looks like a monstrous roster, 4 proven players plus a hyped up rookie in Zeus (hopefully he's developed a bit more than what we saw last year). I always really liked that T1 is willing to run young rosters, it hurts to see players leave or get benched but you can never say this org isn't trying to win. | ||
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Bang retires. | ||
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On December 06 2021 20:13 AdsMoFro wrote: https://twitter.com/kenzi131/status/1467803807749128194 Bang retires. Sad to see him go, he was integral to the 2nd iteration of Faker's T1. But he definitely declined over the years, so it's no wonder he's retiring. Maybe he will stream a bit? | ||
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Respect for getting the bag though, must have been hell of a deal | ||
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On December 10 2021 01:42 chipmonklord17 wrote: TSM reveals full roster with head coach Chawy. Certainly an interesting choice bringing two LDL players, but a change I definitely welcome in theory. Definitely an immediate concern that from the sounds of it Shenyi and Keaiduo don't know any English, but it seems like they're at least attempting to rectify it Only makes me further my crusade against Parth. Now if and when they need to replace players unless Shenyi and/or Keaiduo develop solid English the pool of players they're going to pick from will need to have at least game-functioning Mandarin. What a stupid move for a GM. | ||
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New Fnatic roster looks very promising: Wunder Razork Humanoid Upset Hylissang | ||
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Gahlo
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On December 17 2021 23:41 chipmonklord17 wrote: Which of theShy, SwordArt, and SofM is not an import in the Weibo roster? Being from Taiwan, I'm guessing Swordart's lack of residency isn't recognized in China. Given that TheShy and SofM have Korean and Vietnamese residency, respectively. | ||
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On December 18 2021 02:47 Gahlo wrote: Being from Taiwan, I'm guessing Swordart's lack of residency isn't recognized in China. Given that TheShy and SofM have Korean and Vietnamese residency, respectively. Yep, all the OG LMS players are considered Chinese by the LPL. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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On December 18 2021 09:16 AdsMoFro wrote: Yep, all the OG LMS players are considered Chinese by the LPL. That's what I assumed, but I don't think a team has ever gone past their import quota with LMS players like this to know for certain. I also did read that theShy was going to be a resident somewhere on twitter or something, but nothing anywhere to back that up. Although to be honest I haven't ever seen anything official saying the LMS players aren't imports in LPL either | ||
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On December 22 2021 22:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: As a follow up, how sure are you guys that SwordArt isn't an import? Weibo announced today that SofM is now an LPL resident, so SwordArt and theShy could be the two imports I was going off Leaguepedia. | ||
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chipmonklord17
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Import rules are on leagupedia? Cool | ||
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Gahlo
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On December 23 2021 22:32 chipmonklord17 wrote: Import rules are on leagupedia? Cool There's a residency field in the player's page. | ||
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On December 24 2021 00:31 Gahlo wrote: There's a residency field in the player's page. But SwordArt says PCS formally LMS | ||
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Yes, but China is China. | ||
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Jek
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On January 10 2022 23:24 DarkCore wrote: It's not on the sidebar, but LPL has started. Today we got to watch the new FPX vs RNG. Honestly not too impressed with Gori (he was a good midtier LCK player, but Xiaohu is just a tier above), but as a team FPX is really impressive. Ngl, the real surprise is seeing how hard Lwx is gapping every lane (including during Demacia cup), his haters must be rolling in their graves. Maybe Hang just meshes better with him? Corki's poke build when he hit level 16 is so hilarious to watch it hurts. The last that executed Xiaohu, Gala and clapped Wei for ~1000 was a beauty. Still dont understand why the poke focused Corki build took so long to hit pro and high Elo. | ||
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On January 11 2022 02:33 Jek wrote: Corki's poke build when he hit level 16 is so hilarious to watch it hurts. The last that executed Xiaohu, Gala and clapped Wei for ~1000 was a beauty. Still dont understand why the poke focused Corki build took so long to hit pro and high Elo. Because at the end of the day, a lot of player's still treat Corki like an ADC, and ADC are all about auto attacking. They are both strong builds, Corki damage late is overtuned imo (so is Viktor, but he's basically a minion until 3 items). Omg, I tuned into game 2 TES vs RA just as TES threw and survived with a 90 HP nexus. What a hilarious start to the day. | ||
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Rookie: Unseats Uzi for most kills in the LPL Uzi: And I took that personally Rookie: Takes off mask to reveal Prime Rookie: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/51954679/look-at-me-im-the-captain-now.jpg) Please give me Rookie vs Faker at MSI | ||
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What an absolute clown show. | ||
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Hopefully PSG gives us some spicy games vs RNG, G2 NA group only having 3 teams blows hard though. | ||
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it would incentivise the top teams to take it a little bit more seriously and more importantly the teams that go to the final dont have to completely handicap themselves for summer. no break + preparing for msi always makes you come back to the summer split in a worse position than everyone else. seems stupid that youre penalised just because you won the spring split. | ||
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