MSI groups are out Seems insane that the LCL's reward for being the only wild card (or whatever the fuck PCS is, you know what I mean) to get a team into groups at worlds is to get VCS and LPL in their MSI group. I don't know what I expected or how they could have fixed this but I'm disappointed how they put VCS in a higher tier despite them not being at worlds at all.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

April 23 2021 20:07 GMT

Bo received a 4 month ban from the LPL,Teeen received a 4 month ban from the LPL, and bless received a 1 year ban from the LPL, Sheng Jie Gaming been removed from the LDL following the match fixing investigation by the LPL.

evagalanina1984

1 Post

April 26 2021 10:48 GMT

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Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

April 26 2021 14:27 GMT

Rumors that TSM is going to buy out Upset from Fnatic if PoE's green card gets approved in time.

Yeah, another Upset to TSM rumor. I've heard this one before.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

April 29 2021 07:57 GMT

On April 26 2021 23:27 Gahlo wrote:
Rumors that TSM is going to buy out Upset from Fnatic if PoE's green card gets approved in time.

Yeah, another Upset to TSM rumor. I've heard this one before.

So uh...LCS just gonna turn into a green card competition?

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 29 2021 09:00 GMT

Would be sad, I want to see Upset succeed. But Fnatic is falling apart, Bwipo said on stream that he is considering leaving once his contract is over (if you trust his words), who knows if Nisqy will stay as well. Selfmade and Hyli are not in form. The top LEC teams aren't really looking for an upgrade in the ADC role, so TSM isn't actually a bad choice.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

April 29 2021 11:51 GMT

#10

On April 29 2021 16:57 AdsMoFro wrote:

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So uh...LCS just gonna turn into a green card competition?

Nothing really changed. Teams have been shedding mediocre, overpriced NA players that they had to drag along due to league rules for years. Only difference now is the turnover rate is predicated on greencard/citizenship and not time played.

Not that Lost *really* counts, since he's from OCE and is only exempt because that League shuttered.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

April 29 2021 12:16 GMT

#11

I don't blame Bwipo at all. From what I've read he was saying that if he's not in form its not worth the downsides of being on Fnatic, aka the expectation that you make the finals every single split. Which I completely understand. If he knows he's not in form why get shit on on top of it? Like imagine if he was Misfit's toplaner right now, would anyone care about how he's playing? Probably not, and certainly not to the same degree people shit on him now.

But yeah Fnatic is absolutely dead. Maybe they convince one of the 5 to stay and build a team around them. 100% Upset goes to NA next year

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 29 2021 15:07 GMT

#12

The videos linked in that article do heavily imply that Upset thinks NA is an inferior region, otherwise he would go where the money is. From a personal finance view, NA is obviously the better choice, but hindsight is 20/20: he went from a dumpster fire OG lineup to a Fnatic roster than clinched 2nd EU seed and gave TES a tough time, if he wanted to be on a competitive roster there wasn't a better choice.

Sent.

Poland9330 Posts

April 29 2021 15:12 GMT

#13

If you listen to Bwipo saying those words, you should see he's not talking about leaving a sinking ship or dealing with fan hate, but about needing a new start (likely in a worse team) in case he disappoints in summer.

Fnatic needs changes but they're not dead yet in my opinion.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

April 29 2021 23:50 GMT

#14

Arrow has a green card and will compete in amateur to prove he's good enough for LCS as a native NA player. Should be interesting to see him back, and if he shows even close to the same form as before his break he should be snatched up in 2022 pretty easily

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 30 2021 08:53 GMT

#15

Not getting an offer is pretty harsh, wasn't he pretty good before his break?

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

April 30 2021 12:55 GMT

#16

He was a former MVP adc. Surprised EG or TSM didn't grab him just to have a back up adc they can actually use. I can't say definitively he'd be an upgrade to Deftly/Lost, but he certainly would be worth finding out. Hell having him on TL in case Tactical ints another split seems useful too.

Actually after looking at all of the adcs in the LCS most of them are mediocre as fuck. Shocked no one would give Arrow even some games

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 30 2021 13:15 GMT

#17

I just don"t understand NA anymore, why is your region sop backwards when it comes to fostering talent?

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

April 30 2021 13:51 GMT

#18

Its not like Arrow is a new talent to be fostered. Or really 99% of the adcs in the region. If I were 100T or C9, or even Dig I wouldn't bother signing him. But everyone else absolutely should have an mvp tier adc on the bench.

Clearly its not a money issue or he wouldn't be in amateur, so its just surprising no team thought it could be beneficial to have another adc on their team

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

April 30 2021 14:04 GMT

#19

It could be money, maybe nobody offered him appropriate compensation, so he reasoned that playing well in the amateur league will convince someone to pay him properly. Pay cut now to make bank later.

I didn't mean to suggest that he is new talent that needs to be coached, more that he is a known entity who would be a good replacement for the bottom half of ADCs in the LCS.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

April 30 2021 15:15 GMT

#20

I guess it depends on if by "received no offers" he meant, no one reached out or organizations did but no one gave him the chance to put pen to paper. Either way I totally agree. He's either a good replacement straight up, or at the very least a very productive 6th man compared to the vast majority of useless subs in the west