If you're a good team, developing NA talent doesn't satisfy the fan's level of expected play. If you're a middling team, you can't afford to miss playoffs and lose out on sponsors. If you're not any of the above, you need to find a way to grow a fanbase to make yourself attractive to sponsors. Nobody wants to root for a team that has a coinflip chance to be awful.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

May 01 2021 08:29 GMT

#23

Every new Bwipo clip basically confirms Fnatic falling off really was because player's couldn't work together. I only ever really heard Nemesis hint at it, but now we get the other side. It's a shame, imo the Bwipo/Selfmade/Nemesis/Rekkles/Hyli roster had more potential than the current roster but too many strong personalities I guess.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 01 2021 12:33 GMT

#24

Not that I blame Mithy per say, but he definitely (self admittedly I'm fairly sure) wasn't capable of handling the roster properly as head coach. I would have loved to see them run back the roster with Yamato, or even keep the Nemesis/Nisqy swap. The team clearly had too many differing opinions, while not having a head coach capable of handling the situation. Perhaps Rekkles leaving and all of this apparent fallout is "punishment" for bad hiring decisions by management

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 11 2021 16:56 GMT

#25

Selfmade and LIDER to Vitality

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 12 2021 19:00 GMT

#26

On May 12 2021 01:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Selfmade and LIDER to Vitality

In other, completely unrelated news. Adam has officially left KCorp because he received an offer from "a major league team"

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2021 22:58 GMT

#27

On May 13 2021 04:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:

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In other, completely unrelated news. Adam has officially left KCorp because he received an offer from "a major league team"

Well that major league team is Fnatic with Bwipo maybe role swapping to jungle?

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 12 2021 23:27 GMT

#28

On May 13 2021 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:

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Well that major league team is Fnatic with Bwipo maybe role swapping to jungle?

Oh sorry, that was the joke. That Selfmade leaving Fnatic and Adam leaving KCorp were totally completely most definitely not related. To be honest I don't really understand the point in Fnatic's shoes. You may as well pick up an ERL jungler too and have Bwipo as a sub top than bother to roll swap him. Unless his contract has some "must be the starter" clause it just doesn't make sense to pick up a new starting top laner and keep your old top laner as a jungler, just get an ERL guy with promise at this point.

Just looking at the EUM rosters they could have totally made a play for Cinkrof or Shlatan. Hell you could super gamble and pick up Markoon. I just don't understand if you want to make the "role-swap Bwipo" gamble why you wouldn't just go all the way.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 16 2021 00:07 GMT

#29

Fresh up and comer Gamsu joins 100T Amateur team

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 26 2021 00:50 GMT

#30

Fnatic is officially Adam/Bwipo/Nisqy/Upset/Hyli for the Summer Split. Should be pretty interesting overall. Youngbuck in one of his recent interviews said if he had to pick a player in EU that could role-swap it would be Perkz followed by Bwipo so maybe its not as bad as it initially sounds. I should note he also felt like it was a downgrade in top and jungle

Still think they should have grabbed an EUM jungler while they were at it just in case

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

May 26 2021 08:08 GMT

#31

This will either be the epic change Fnatic needs, or they will be a complete dumpster fire, I see no in between.

I always thought Selfmade was slumping, he's really good but the team just didn't mesh together so he looked lost.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 26 2021 18:17 GMT

#32

Officially official. Fnatic (finally) announces Bwipo jungle

I don't blame Fnatic for doing this at this point, they know they have 2 players 100% walking after this split (Bwipo and Selfmade have already announced they won't resign) and know Hyli was going to leave last off season and only signed a 1 year deal. So if Adam really is going to be the next big top laner you might as well grab him as soon as you can.

I definitely still question the org for letting the situation get to this point in the first place, letting Caps, Rekkles, Selfmade and likely Bwipo AND Hyli go thru sheer incompetence but I at least understand where they were coming from making at least the Adam choice.

Other "half" of this set of rumors officially announced as well. Vitality has picked up Selfmade, as well as Lider and SLT and 'rebranded' to match their new player's attitudes. V for Villains announced

Sent.

Poland9331 Posts

May 29 2021 19:52 GMT

#33

Zven moved to C9's academy team, Mithy replacing their head coach

wat wat
wat

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

May 29 2021 20:01 GMT

#34

--- Nuked ---

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 29 2021 22:33 GMT

#35

I would sooner suspect an import jungler on the way before I'd ever suspect replacing Fudge. Although to be honest I never would have expected replacing Zven.

In other news, Tynx is out of a job with Treatz role swapping to jungle and Jesiz swapping from head coach back to support. Seems kind of crazy that this is a few days after Lider said no one wants to play with Tynx, mentioning that a few years back Obsess was going to get benched for Tynx until all 4 other members of the team refused to play with him

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

May 29 2021 23:28 GMT

#36

I think Zven will be back, they’re just trying to recreate the Jensen/sneaky benching magic

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

May 30 2021 01:09 GMT

#37

On May 30 2021 04:52 Sent. wrote:
Zven moved to C9's academy team, Mithy replacing their head coach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGdn3KuIMpo

wat wat
wat

I am very, very confused.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

May 30 2021 10:17 GMT

#38

So many of the recent roster changes are wtf decisions, I'm not sure what to expect anymore. I can only speak for EU, but I can't wrap my head around putting Jesiz back into a roster, you don't normally flip flop between coach and player positions like that.