EPT2018 Esports General Discussion - Page 17
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JimmiC
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St3MoR
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 27 2018 05:21 JimmiC wrote: When some one gets cut, do they still get paid? In a lot of sports they still do, or a % I guess that would depend on how the contract is worded. | ||
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JimmiC
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 27 2018 07:33 JimmiC wrote: In regular sports in NA all except football are fully guaranteed. Would be interested to know how LOL is. I guess with out collective bargaining it depends on the individual player. That's because the player unions have a CBA making it that way. LCS player's association barely exists and it's not even an official union. If the end result of getting cut isn't anything other than, effectively, going "you're fired." I'll be shocked. | ||
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cLutZ
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 27 2018 08:00 cLutZ wrote: All lol contracts are mandated by Riot to have uniform expiration dates arent they? So they are certainly not at-will contracts. After that it all has to do with contract language. Contrary to popular belief, not all NBA/MLB contracts are guaranteed and not all NFL contracts are "cuttable". Those are merely norms that have evolved with the culture of the sports. I don't think so. I know the vast majority of the contracts I've seen end dates for happen in 15-20th of November(S7 Worlds ended on the 4th) after the season is over - because that makes sense for both the players and teams, but nothing limits the amount of years a player signs for and a few are in May, June, or September. | ||
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geript
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On July 26 2018 20:03 Numy wrote: That sounds awful, hope your work isn't as bad as that ;(. That's why I mentioned it maybe being a culture clash. I get that these things happen. I just think as a society we shouldn't sit back and let people get away with merely doing what's legally required but instead hold them to a higher standard than that. That's why I always wanted eSports to be more than merely copying sports and why I push so much against all these franchised leagues. It's a very fine line between people protecting themselves from potential and blaming them for not protecting. I for instance life in a country where any local knows not to be in certain areas at night or go through other areas only by car. Hell sometimes don't stop at robots in areas. So when something bad happens to a person it's easy to just think "they should have known better", and sure they should have done more to be safe but that doesn't mean what happened to them is excusable. Idk I'm kind of rambling here. Need figure out a better way to describe my position. My old work was. I literally got fired for refusing to work an extra shift on a cart that I told my direct supervisor (a unit manager), the scheduling manager, and the unit manager on that floor that I would work any assignment that day except for one. I warned them for 4 straight days in a row in both written and verbal communication. I told them that I would not agree to come in to work that one and that if they put me on it I would leave. I made sure every other assignment was covered, notified them and left. They fired me and tried to have my license revoked for abandoment. They lost that hardcore. I reported them to the better business bureau, DHEC (for rampant understaffing outside of minimal regulations), Medicare and Medicaid. That company is currently again under investigation for fraudulent claims which will likely cost them a couple hundred thousand. The DON is also currently under investigation by the state board of nursing for neglect in regards to continued allowance to ignore written warnings in regards to patient safety (specifically related to nurses diverting narcotics for personal use while at work). Apparently they never believed me that when I said I keep everything. That said, the BON won’t likely act for a few years at minimum because they’re slow as fuck. Where I work now is great. But that’s because the managers treat staff like a valuable resource and do what they can to retain good staff (usually). They could do far better, but on average they’re better than most (sadly). | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 27 2018 07:52 Gahlo wrote: That's because the player unions have a CBA making it that way. LCS player's association barely exists and it's not even an official union. If the end result of getting cut isn't anything other than, effectively, going "you're fired." I'll be shocked. On the Dive they mentioned they weren't sure what kind of contract but that they wouldn't be surprised if the players got nothing. @Geript - Dam man that sounds like an awful experience. Glad you doing better now. It's really sad when people just refuse to treat each other decently. It takes so little effort and often has more efficient rewards down the line too. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
My bet is that if Faker doesn't get picked up by a top tier KR team, which is likely since they all have good mid laners, he will go to CN for a bit. NA has a load of money atm, but you can bet at least one of the rich owners in CN will make an offer to Faker that will overshadow anything else, even a TL one. But who knows, maybe Steve will prove me wrong and pull 10 million out of now where. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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JimmiC
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
I would also like to see Riot pay Dopa to play Na to rank 1, unfortunately I doubt I’ll get that either. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On July 27 2018 05:21 JimmiC wrote: When some one gets cut, do they still get paid? In a lot of sports they still do, or a % This was answered on beyondtherift by Altec. His contract was voided so he doesn't get paid. | ||
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DarkCore
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JimmiC
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Also on the latter I did hear Kobe’s reasoning on the Dive why that’s a two way street. I just don’t find that argument compelling in the least, the ONLY time it would apply even would be precisely situations like this where the players would b SOL. | ||
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Sent.
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Slusher
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