On July 30 2018 03:15 Sent. wrote: Don't NA players make enough to hire a lawyer to at least check if the voided contracts were abusive which would mean there is something to fight for in court? Or is it only top names that earn crazy money and the rest earns just enough to convince themselves quitting school was the right choice?
There are player agents.
This is America we're talking about, where unless you make it stated in your contract if A=>B, then in the vast majority of cases if you get fired, that's it. These types of things weren't addressed in contracts because there wasn't much of a need to or know to before. You have a bunch of kids who largely played videogames as their primary or sole hobby - not people who follow sports closely and would pick up on some things from watching free agency. You didn't have big business in the space since most of the orgs were either run by people from the esports scene or people that play the game and wanted to get in the scene as an owner - so there was more empathy for players.
Ownership, or at least EF's ownership has made a statement through action that they aren't going to do players any favor if they don't want them anymore. It's up to the players to defend themselves in the future or run that risk happening to them.
On July 30 2018 03:15 Sent. wrote: Don't NA players make enough to hire a lawyer to at least check if the voided contracts were abusive which would mean there is something to fight for in court? Or is it only top names that earn crazy money and the rest earns just enough to convince themselves quitting school was the right choice?
There are player agents.
This is America we're talking about, where unless you make it stated in your contract if A=>B, then in the vast majority of cases if you get fired, that's it. These types of things weren't addressed in contracts because there wasn't much of a need to or know to before. You have a bunch of kids who largely played videogames as their primary or sole hobby - not people who follow sports closely and would pick up on some things from watching free agency. You didn't have big business in the space since most of the orgs were either run by people from the esports scene or people that play the game and wanted to get in the scene as an owner - so there was more empathy for players.
Ownership, or at least EF's ownership has made a statement through action that they aren't going to do players any favor if they don't want them anymore. It's up to the players to defend themselves in the future or run that risk happening to them.
I get you have a hate on for EF but lets not pretend other teams have not done similar or the same stuff. If it is in the rules they will do it.
True, and I freely admit that bias, but let's also not pretend we were having this discussion before EF did this.
On July 30 2018 03:15 Sent. wrote: Don't NA players make enough to hire a lawyer to at least check if the voided contracts were abusive which would mean there is something to fight for in court? Or is it only top names that earn crazy money and the rest earns just enough to convince themselves quitting school was the right choice?
There are player agents.
This is America we're talking about, where unless you make it stated in your contract if A=>B, then in the vast majority of cases if you get fired, that's it. These types of things weren't addressed in contracts because there wasn't much of a need to or know to before. You have a bunch of kids who largely played videogames as their primary or sole hobby - not people who follow sports closely and would pick up on some things from watching free agency. You didn't have big business in the space since most of the orgs were either run by people from the esports scene or people that play the game and wanted to get in the scene as an owner - so there was more empathy for players.
Ownership, or at least EF's ownership has made a statement through action that they aren't going to do players any favor if they don't want them anymore. It's up to the players to defend themselves in the future or run that risk happening to them.
I get you have a hate on for EF but lets not pretend other teams have not done similar or the same stuff. If it is in the rules they will do it.
True, and I freely admit that bias, but let's also not pretend we were having this discussion before EF did this.
Man the meteo's trade was a huge discussion just maybe not here.
But I'm not sure everyone seems to want esports to be more like sports then when they are people get all mad. And this shit is super common in sports. I mean Cowboys waited as late as they could to cut Dez, which really hurt his chances of landing in another spot. And that is just one examples of thousands.
Dez can still sign to a team. He's had the ability to for months.
The state of sports contracts is a result of a capitalist culture. Expecting anything different from corporate interest in esports is foolish.
Really strange move so close to playoffs. Can't help but feel he's being thrown under the bus. Unless he's the one insisting on the roster there's really not much he can do with this team. If they suddenly start performing I'll be shocked.
On August 10 2018 15:50 Redox wrote: He still sounds super insecure. Idk where this comes from, but I dont think it is good for a professional competitor.
Also the question remains who of Soaz and Bwipo will play. So far it seems like Bwipo though, he will play vs Giants.
I've always felt Rekkles has been a bit of a dodgy professional in the past. He stubbornly goes his own weird non-optimal builds and refuses to learn new meta champs instead forcing his champ pool. We've seen it work sometimes but also cost Fnatic a lot at times. If this meta has forced him to lose some of that overconfidence and put in the work to learn new things I think he'll be a far better player in the long run.
On August 10 2018 15:50 Redox wrote: He still sounds super insecure. Idk where this comes from, but I dont think it is good for a professional competitor.
Also the question remains who of Soaz and Bwipo will play. So far it seems like Bwipo though, he will play vs Giants.
I've always felt Rekkles has been a bit of a dodgy professional in the past. He stubbornly goes his own weird non-optimal builds and refuses to learn new meta champs instead forcing his champ pool. We've seen it work sometimes but also cost Fnatic a lot at times. If this meta has forced him to lose some of that overconfidence and put in the work to learn new things I think he'll be a far better player in the long run.
I have no idea where you get that overconfidence thing from. I dont think I have ever seen a less confident pro player.
Overconfidence in his own way of playing the game in his refusal to adapt. AD Kennen bot, forcing trist in every situation, not learning to play Kaisa then picking Kaisa and going awful item build etc. Maybe overconfidence is the wrong word and I should have just said stubbornness.
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