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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
September 18 2017 17:39 GMT
#61
Oh yeah, I've seen that IMT sub on streams too, I thought he was pretty good (but it's Ez jungle, and the champ just seems a bit too strong...).

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of Ezreal this Worlds, and not in the position you'd have expected a month ago. Just feels really wrong seeing him in the jungle. Either that or he's going to get perma banned.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
September 18 2017 18:04 GMT
#62
On September 19 2017 02:39 DarkCore wrote:
Oh yeah, I've seen that IMT sub on streams too, I thought he was pretty good (but it's Ez jungle, and the champ just seems a bit too strong...).

I have a feeling we're going to see a lot of Ezreal this Worlds, and not in the position you'd have expected a month ago. Just feels really wrong seeing him in the jungle. Either that or he's going to get perma banned.


At the very least ban it from the KR teams as they seem the most used to it.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 18 2017 18:53 GMT
#63
every pro jungler stream i watched past week was ezreal spam im pretty sure he will be pick/ban at worlds
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 18 2017 19:24 GMT
#64
On September 18 2017 22:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
ezreal jungle is basically nidalee with better dueling power, there's an IMT sub playing nothing but ezreal/nid jg and hes climbing like crazy on korean server. It brings back the same stupid problem "why can this guy force me out of jungle early and hes also going to outscale me"

In my head, I was trying to compare Ezreal with Graves and I felt like Graves was better during the previous patches. But I think Ezreal and Nid is a more apt comparison.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 18 2017 19:59 GMT
#65
On September 19 2017 04:24 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2017 22:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
ezreal jungle is basically nidalee with better dueling power, there's an IMT sub playing nothing but ezreal/nid jg and hes climbing like crazy on korean server. It brings back the same stupid problem "why can this guy force me out of jungle early and hes also going to outscale me"

In my head, I was trying to compare Ezreal with Graves and I felt like Graves was better during the previous patches. But I think Ezreal and Nid is a more apt comparison.

Nidalee could (can?) clear stupidly fast and Ezreal can't so they end up being pretty different I think.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 18 2017 20:12 GMT
#66
Well I just got my first honor capsule and it's Ezreal shard. I started to experiment with jungle recently. Riot clearly telling me something. Also the "Your Shop" deals are open. Got some cool ones, Mecha Khz, Infernal WW, Snowland Ori.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
September 18 2017 20:22 GMT
#67
Yeah different trade offs, but the fact Ezreal is such a strong pick when he doesn't clear that fast and has no real cc suggests there's something wrong. Next thing you know they'll change him so that his Q only does 50% to jungle creeps or something, don't know how else they could change him.

Although granted Ezreal could get a rework, isn't he the oldest champ to not get a proper rework? Ryze, Annie, Tryn, Warwick, they've all had reworks but Ezreal has only had the effects of his abilities changed.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 18 2017 21:05 GMT
#68
Ez is pretty healthy so IDK why he'd need a rework. I assume the early CD rework on mystic shot is why he's able to do the jungle now. The reason, IMO, he is getting play is that whenever ranged champions work well at all in the jungle they get a ton of play. Mystic shot proccing red buff is pretty good for jungle EZ. IDK how well it will work out for pros since they rely on junglers for early dives, but its just like when Kindred was good. People always want something other than a banger that becomes a smite/CC bot from the jungle, its just that usually those champs can't get a good first clear.
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 18 2017 21:21 GMT
#69
PBE changes
Ardent Censer
[Context]

Passive effect's Attack speed bonus changed from [20 - 35%] to [20 - 40%]
Passive damage changed from [20 - 35] to [20 - 40]
[New Effect] Unique passive's attack speed/on-hit bonus now also applies to the caster when used on an ally. - [Context]

i dont play botlane so not sure how much it will impact it but at this point i wish they just removed that item -.-
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 18 2017 21:23 GMT
#70
On September 19 2017 06:21 kongoline wrote:
PBE changes
Ardent Censer
[Context]

Passive effect's Attack speed bonus changed from [20 - 35%] to [20 - 40%]
Passive damage changed from [20 - 35] to [20 - 40]
[New Effect] Unique passive's attack speed/on-hit bonus now also applies to the caster when used on an ally. - [Context]

i dont play botlane so not sure how much it will impact it but at this point i wish they just removed that item -.-

It doesn't heal anymore.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 18 2017 21:34 GMT
#71
Ezreal doesn't clear fast? He has the fastest buff-camp-buff clear in the game.

What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-18 22:00:18
September 18 2017 21:58 GMT
#72
On September 19 2017 06:21 kongoline wrote:
PBE changes
Ardent Censer
[Context]

Passive effect's Attack speed bonus changed from [20 - 35%] to [20 - 40%]
Passive damage changed from [20 - 35] to [20 - 40]
[New Effect] Unique passive's attack speed/on-hit bonus now also applies to the caster when used on an ally. - [Context]

i dont play botlane so not sure how much it will impact it but at this point i wish they just removed that item -.-

Removal of heal is massive, but the item is still bonkers.

edit: just saw it also buffs the caster... lol
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
September 18 2017 22:34 GMT
#73
On September 19 2017 06:34 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Ezreal doesn't clear fast? He has the fastest buff-camp-buff clear in the game.


put out a time and lets see if I can beat it
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 18 2017 22:53 GMT
#74
On September 19 2017 06:34 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Ezreal doesn't clear fast? He has the fastest buff-camp-buff clear in the game.

Yes and then you have the other camps. Nidalee kills everything and will get like 100 cs over her opponent, Ezreal isn't going to do that.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 18 2017 23:52 GMT
#75
Apparently I need to stop playing LoL drunk.

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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
September 19 2017 00:06 GMT
#76
On September 19 2017 08:52 iCanada wrote:
Apparently I need to stop playing LoL drunk.

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drunk league is best league though
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 19 2017 00:17 GMT
#77
The real funny thing is I'm pretty sure the majority of those games were on Lee sin. LOL.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-19 01:12:26
September 19 2017 01:01 GMT
#78
i often play late night and seeing this tilts me to no end, if u plan on playing drunk wasting people time and destroy the game go play normals not ranked -.-
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 19 2017 01:12 GMT
#79
To be fair, my whole ranked experience is drunken.

Haha.

My only ELO is drunk ELO.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
September 19 2017 07:46 GMT
#80
On September 19 2017 06:23 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2017 06:21 kongoline wrote:
PBE changes
Ardent Censer
[Context]

Passive effect's Attack speed bonus changed from [20 - 35%] to [20 - 40%]
Passive damage changed from [20 - 35] to [20 - 40]
[New Effect] Unique passive's attack speed/on-hit bonus now also applies to the caster when used on an ally. - [Context]

i dont play botlane so not sure how much it will impact it but at this point i wish they just removed that item -.-

It doesn't heal anymore.


Buffing the damage by removing the heal is not a good trade off, all it means is that Kog and Twitch will buy BotRK again, before they could get away with Guinsoo or Runaans, but the extra AS and dmg will mitigate that. Also don't see why the item should apply to the support, all of a sudden Janna is dishing out 100 dmg AA, and Sona will hit like a god damn truck.

Riot needs to think really long and hard about the place of the item in the botlane, aka if it should be a permanent meta pick that punishes people who don't buy it, or be sub optimal so that people will only buy it when it really synergizes with the champions. After Locket, Redemption and Knight's Vow, now we have to deal with Ardent practically every game. All those items need to be looked at, along with the champs that use them.
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