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Patch 7.18: Live on Sept. 13th, 2017

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NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

September 12 2017 20:04 GMT

Apparently this will be the patch Worlds will be played on, with Ornn disabled.
SKT hwaiting~

kongoline

6318 Posts

September 12 2017 20:30 GMT

i hope Longzhu beats skt in close finals, skt winning every year is getting boring

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

September 12 2017 20:46 GMT

I don't understand why Ornn is disabled, it's been out for ages.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

September 12 2017 20:50 GMT

On September 13 2017 05:46 Ansibled wrote:
I don't understand why Ornn is disabled, it's been out for ages.

Super strange to me. I think Meddler said that while he's been out for awhile he hasn't be enabled for pro play so there's zero competitive games to test his balance on. Overly cautious but I guess after they intentional fucked up so hard that one worlds they swung the caution pendulum pretty far.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

September 12 2017 20:57 GMT

I want LZ to win just so there isn't more SKT skins.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

September 12 2017 21:01 GMT

Ah yes, Trist and Rakan nerfs, think we're going to see a bit less play from them. They're still good champs, but those Trist E nerfs are pretty massive.

Is Riot buffing Ryze W ratios in the hope that he'll get played a lot again at Worlds? They legit doubled the damage of the ability in the late game.

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

September 12 2017 21:13 GMT

I think they are buffing Ryze because he hasn't seen pro play and his soloQ winrate is an abomination. Another rework is probably incoming.

Edit, also, new Xin seems ok, but not that much different. Will obviously still steamroll teams if he gets a lead, but with no tenacity bonus on the ult I feel like the same Xin problems will happen.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

September 12 2017 23:40 GMT

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/c7He9MWq-frequently-asked-questions-about-the-upcoming-leveling-and-rewards-changes

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 13 2017 00:24 GMT

#10

That part about the starter champ shards is nice, was probably my biggest concern.

PrinceXizor

United States17713 Posts

September 13 2017 10:30 GMT

#11

Thats technically screwing new players even more. giving them low value shards intentionally.

Makes me even more sure they are trying to squeeze more money out of new accounts..

ruypture

United States367 Posts

September 13 2017 16:05 GMT

#12

On September 13 2017 19:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Thats technically screwing new players even more. giving them low value shards intentionally.

Makes me even more sure they are trying to squeeze more money out of new accounts..

making up for losses with the chest system

ruypture

United States367 Posts

September 13 2017 16:07 GMT

#13

On September 13 2017 06:01 DarkCore wrote:
Ah yes, Trist and Rakan nerfs, think we're going to see a bit less play from them. They're still good champs, but those Trist E nerfs are pretty massive.

Is Riot buffing Ryze W ratios in the hope that he'll get played a lot again at Worlds? They legit doubled the damage of the ability in the late game.

Rakan really deserves to be nerfed more, that champion is absolutely insane. especially with his ultimate.

I appreciate that his shield isn't that strong, nor is his heal, but his w into dash back or w into ult are complete gamechangers. He functions like leona except theres minimal risk to his dash because be can just jump out after proccing CotC

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 13 2017 16:35 GMT

#14

I don't know wtf you are taking about, I was talking about where it says getting "unlucky" and getting a starter champ shard for your level up will probably come with a 2nd shard to keep a reasonable minimum value to a level up.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

September 13 2017 17:30 GMT

#15

Didn't we use to have a rule about PX's posts?

Riot: we'll give new players lower value shards but make sure they end up with the same value overall
You: it's nice that new players won't get screwed
PX: giving new players lower value shards makes me even more sure that Riot is trying to screw new players

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 13 2017 18:40 GMT

#16

It's nice for all players, my concern was at the max exp/level up (174, 199, 224) getting a beginner shard would feel really bad.

I use beginner to reference the super cheap Ashe. Ryze tier I don't recall what that actual value was. Maybe that's the misleading part of my post.

kongoline

6318 Posts

September 13 2017 18:51 GMT

#17

wont be surprised if we will get shafted by the changes unless you get lucky and hit shards for champions u want, theres already topic on reddit discussing that
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6zupq3/blue_essence_gains_may_be_lower_than_current_ip/

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 13 2017 19:11 GMT

#18

I mean it was super likely it was a nerf, and I personally dislike randomness being added. But I accept that I'm not getting what I want in that department because the masses can't control themselves around lootboxes. I was just concerned if rng could screw me on staying ahead of the release schedule, but the FAQ basically made it clear I'm fine.

The lootbox defenders in that thread you linked annoy me so much holy

kongoline

6318 Posts

September 13 2017 20:04 GMT

#19

i find lootboxes unethical and scummy especially when in some games its getting to the point u cant buy parts of the game unless you participate in rng fiesta , it encourages and exploits gambling addiction in kids i wouldn't mind if somebody made law to stop this nonsense.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

September 13 2017 20:41 GMT

#20

I hate loot boxes with a passion. I still remember watching this video of a 12yo kid opening a hundred TF2 crates with his birthday money, only to get absolutely nothing and looking absolutely devastated. Gambling is one thing when it involves adults - if you're grown and still pissing away your money, whatever, it's your life choices. But when your primary audience is under 18, it should 100% be illegal.

I guess it is a small comfort that there are only 4 loot-box exclusive skins, and that you can disenchant your crappy loot box winnings into the good stuff. That's better than TF2 and MtG booster packs, at least. But I still don't like it.