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[Patch 7.9] Tank Update General Discussion

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 02 2017 18:23 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

Non-League of Legends discussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

Certain topics are blacklisted from LoL General Discussion and they include:
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Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

There are no new champions this patch.

Patch 7.9: Live on May 3rd, 2017

+ Show Spoiler [Previous GD Threads & Patch Notes] +
Patch 7.8 Xayah & Rakan General Discussion
Patch 7.7 The Yeti is Here General Discussion
Patch 7.6 Galio Update General Discussion
Patch 7.5 RIP LeBlanc General Discussion
Patch 7.4 Lethanlity Nerfs General Discussion
Patch 7.3 Sandbox General Discussion
Patch 7.2 Warwick Rework General Discussion
Patch 7.1 Welcome to Season 7 General Discussion
Patch 6.24 Camille General Discussion
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Patch 6.22 Pre-Season 7 General Discussion
Patch 6.21 End of Season 6 General Discussion
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Patch 6.19 Reverted Kog'Maw General Discussion
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Patch 6.15 Corki Worlds Buff General Discussion
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 02 2017 18:24 GMT
#2
I'm building Death's Dance Ezreal.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 02 2017 18:48 GMT
#3
Sounds ok. Blork still looks very strong.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 02 2017 20:00 GMT
#4
Maokai's laning phase just got smashed really hard, as well as his midgame burst when catching someone.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 02 2017 20:37 GMT
#5
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
May 02 2017 20:39 GMT
#6
I don't get why they removed the R/E Graves ult combo, it wasn't used super often and I don't think it anywhere close to being a problem. It also looked cool.

New Cait skin looks ok I guess. I still like Pulsefire Ezreal a lot althoguh most people seem to hate it?



'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 02 2017 21:16 GMT
#7
On May 03 2017 05:37 kongoline wrote:
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-

I thought the reason they kept all of Riven's animation cancels was because she was designed from the ground up to be a fighting game character (specifically Marth from SSBM).
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 21:20:12
May 02 2017 21:19 GMT
#8
On May 03 2017 05:37 kongoline wrote:
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-

riot's always had really weird favouritism for riven animation cancels over everyone else

On May 03 2017 06:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 05:37 kongoline wrote:
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-

I thought the reason they kept all of Riven's animation cancels was because she was designed from the ground up to be a fighting game character (specifically Marth from SSBM).

that was only her Q and marth's side B
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 21:41:50
May 02 2017 21:40 GMT
#9


I thought the same thing when I saw the changes. Opinions?

Edit: Apparently, the on hit effect only works on minions, so this idea is probably nothing: + Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/RiotKingCobra/status/859522600401215488
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 02 2017 21:57 GMT
#10
I don't think D-Shield really fixed the issues with why people weren't buying it. Mana, not HP, is the limiting stat in the early game for most champs, and I don't think the on-hit is strong enough to make up for the pushing power advantage raw ap/ad gives you.
Freeeeeeedom
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 22:05:27
May 02 2017 22:04 GMT
#11
Mundo, new Warmogs, Gargoyle Stoneplate. Yes plz.

GA change also seems like a great advantage for toplaners like Jarvan or Renek and other AD toplaners.
HOLY CHECK!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-02 22:11:16
May 02 2017 22:10 GMT
#12
Its good that they finally buffed the tanks, they were too weak for the last several months (seasons?) So, now they can build better defensive items with more armor, its also good that armor penetration got nerfed, coz tanks were dying too fast. The only thing that I dont understand is why no buffs to ninja tabis?
With ninja tabis and new omen, crit adc may possibly do damage to tanks, so tabis needs the buff urgently
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
May 02 2017 22:13 GMT
#13
Does Tabi really need a buff? Especially with armour pen reduced.
HOLY CHECK!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 02 2017 22:15 GMT
#14
Mundo doesn't really have cc aside from Cleaver spam so unless you've got to bodyblock a team's worth of skillshot for your squishies I'm not sure what the Stoneplate would do for him. His damage threat is really what forces people to deal with him, kinda like Nautilus was completely ignorable offensively speaking once he blew Dredge Line and Depth Charge between the gutting of W and the rework of E.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 02 2017 22:17 GMT
#15
RIP Sej T_T
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
May 02 2017 22:29 GMT
#16
Nothing to help tanks in the jungle with their first clear. Not that I expected it, but that's been one of my biggest gripes with this year. I used to be able to play tank, ad, ap, or marksmen out of the jungle based on need. Now it's just ad or ap.

As to actual items, the death dance buff looks really good.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 02 2017 22:44 GMT
#17
On May 03 2017 07:29 General_Winter wrote:
Nothing to help tanks in the jungle with their first clear. Not that I expected it, but that's been one of my biggest gripes with this year. I used to be able to play tank, ad, ap, or marksmen out of the jungle based on need. Now it's just ad or ap.

As to actual items, the death dance buff looks really good.

That problem isn't new to this year.
Freeeeeeedom
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
May 03 2017 02:11 GMT
#18
On May 03 2017 05:39 Ansibled wrote:
New Cait skin looks ok I guess. I still like Pulsefire Ezreal a lot althoguh most people seem to hate it?


For some reason I am not feeling that Cait skin. The gun morph animations are cool but other than that the skin seems meh to me. I am not feeling the projectiles and the coloring feels bland to me.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 03 2017 04:08 GMT
#19
On May 03 2017 06:19 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 05:37 kongoline wrote:
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-

riot's always had really weird favouritism for riven animation cancels over everyone else

Show nested quote +
On May 03 2017 06:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On May 03 2017 05:37 kongoline wrote:
they removed renektons Q/E auto animation cancel but riven is allowed to keep hers -.-

I thought the reason they kept all of Riven's animation cancels was because she was designed from the ground up to be a fighting game character (specifically Marth from SSBM).

that was only her Q and marth's side B

I think when they were making Riven they took some scrapped ideas and put them into Fiora v1.

But yes, Riven is designed and coded specifically to have a lot of animation canceling. If you want to player her well, you have to be good at her animation cancels. Take those away and she's going to need buffs to everything and her skill floor drops hard.

Grave's self knockback on his ult was put there intentionally to take him out of range of what he ulted. It's supposed to be the final shot.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-03 16:50:05
May 03 2017 16:49 GMT
#20
New rift herald is so easy to solo it's retarded..... You can proc it's eye on your own now. -.-
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