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[Patch 7.4] Lethality Nerfs General Discussion - Page 3

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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 07:55:06
February 26 2017 07:37 GMT
#41
I think the idea is to make sure Ashe isn't suddenly absolutely disgustingly broken in 2v2s.

It's still pretty op on Ashe tbh. Ashe-Xin Zhao might as well be the new Leona Jarvan. Her support at level 1 still gets like 2.5 + 650 * (.025 / 2) = 9.8 life per auto.

Quite terrifying, actually.

I like the new BoS. It's a neat mechanic. I would like it more if it did damage instead of healed when popped, but it's still pretty sweet actually.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 26 2017 11:24 GMT
#42
Damn, this new bond of stone might make me play Cuck Olaf
your allies healing for like 80 hp for hitting anyone you hit with an axe in the midgame sounds absolutely disgusting
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-26 12:25:53
February 26 2017 12:24 GMT
#43
they worded it specifically to avoid that tbh. so you're getting like 40hp/sec instead of 80hp/auto - which is still okay, but not super enticing and actually kinda weak in this not tank heavy meta.

It actually seems very niche. it only works well on melee supports that can trade well/poke with thier cc... so maybe braum/taric? both would still probably rather stick with coc/windspeakers
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
February 27 2017 04:35 GMT
#44
I've been having a lot of fun going sheen->gunblade->trinity->botrk (with lucidity boots after gunblade) on Ezreal.

Mana is slightly tight, but not bad. The sustain is absurd. The burst damage is absurd. The sustain dps is kinda meh though.

Nothing like one shotting the enemy adc from a bush ^.^.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 27 2017 12:27 GMT
#45
Don't you normally want to get TF as early as possible because its damage falls off the longer the game goes (Outscaled by crit). I could imagine Sheen -> Cutlass -> TF might be quite scary, it's more expensive than the conventional Tear -> TF though.

I don't like the idea behind the new bond of stone because it makes champions who don't have any form of strong/repetitive CC weaker.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 18:01:14
February 27 2017 18:00 GMT
#46
On February 27 2017 21:27 DarkCore wrote:
Don't you normally want to get TF as early as possible because its damage falls off the longer the game goes (Outscaled by crit). I could imagine Sheen -> Cutlass -> TF might be quite scary, it's more expensive than the conventional Tear -> TF though.


Gunblade active is REALLY strong, and it also doesn't scale. The build is basically get a bunch of items that all can somewhat stand on their own - they are all strong in their own right on Ez, without needing synergy.

40s CD on gunblade means it's always up.

Also, 15% damage vamp is massively stronger then the 10% lifesteal on Ezreal, as your E/W/R all do pretty good damage, and the E gets the 100% value from it, as it is single target.

Strongest part about the build though is that people don't respect the burst damage that you bring, as they have never seen gunblade ez before.

Also, against teams with no tanks at all you can go gunblade->trin->shiv->ie for the fun of it ^.^.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
February 28 2017 00:32 GMT
#47
On February 27 2017 21:27 DarkCore wrote:
Don't you normally want to get TF as early as possible because its damage falls off the longer the game goes (Outscaled by crit). I could imagine Sheen -> Cutlass -> TF might be quite scary, it's more expensive than the conventional Tear -> TF though.

I don't like the idea behind the new bond of stone because it makes champions who don't have any form of strong/repetitive CC weaker.

its supposed to be a mastery for support champs. i cant think of any popular support that doesnt have a bundle of cc's
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 28 2017 15:30 GMT
#48
On February 28 2017 09:32 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2017 21:27 DarkCore wrote:
Don't you normally want to get TF as early as possible because its damage falls off the longer the game goes (Outscaled by crit). I could imagine Sheen -> Cutlass -> TF might be quite scary, it's more expensive than the conventional Tear -> TF though.

I don't like the idea behind the new bond of stone because it makes champions who don't have any form of strong/repetitive CC weaker.

its supposed to be a mastery for support champs. i cant think of any popular support that doesnt have a bundle of cc's

On the other hand out of the popular supports I cant think of a single one you actually want it on.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 28 2017 16:00 GMT
#49
I mean the design might be intended to shift the support meta which is pretty stale at this point
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Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
February 28 2017 20:49 GMT
#50
Back with 2 noob questions

1)Is there a way to customize the preset item suggestions on the new client? I have pretty much never used the legacy one since I was new and especially now with the practice tool.

2) Im not level 30 yet since I played sparingly but does your normal MMR matter for the initial calibration or is the starting point or the calibration games always the same (i.e. Like Starcraft?) for everybody initially? Probably no official answer but is there a general consensus?

Thanks
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-28 22:05:13
February 28 2017 21:47 GMT
#51
On March 01 2017 05:49 Reson wrote:
Back with 2 noob questions

1)Is there a way to customize the preset item suggestions on the new client? I have pretty much never used the legacy one since I was new and especially now with the practice tool.

2) Im not level 30 yet since I played sparingly but does your normal MMR matter for the initial calibration or is the starting point or the calibration games always the same (i.e. Like Starcraft?) for everybody initially? Probably no official answer but is there a general consensus?

Thanks

1) Not in the new client. You can boot up in legacy and make a set, I think it should be still be active in the new client. They removed the feature with no plans on implementing it again due to nearly nobody using it.

2) Your normal MMR is completely seperate from your ranked MMR. All standard gamemodes have their own MMR this includes ARAM, no idea if stuff like URF use a MMR system tho.

....................

EDIT: Actually I'm not entirely sure if your ranked MMR can negatively or positively affect your normal MMR, but your normal MMR certainly doesn't change your ranked.

EDIT2: There's an ItemSets.json file in the config folder, so somebody might have made a tool to edit them like there's a tool to change VAs.

EDIT3: If you're reheating some coffee in a microwave dont give it 1 hour instead of 1 minute and then procede to forget about it.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 15:35:10
February 28 2017 22:07 GMT
#52
Actually, I'm pretty sure that your normal MMR used to determine where your ranked MMR began in terms of placements, but in this new age of Solo and Flex Queue I'm not sure if that is still true. Regardless, the impact is fairly minimal and vastly dwarfed by the outcome of those placement games, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

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What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 28 2017 22:41 GMT
#53
On March 01 2017 07:07 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that your normal MMR used to determine where your ranked MMR began in terms of placements, but in this new age of Solo and Flex Queue I'm not sure if that is still true. Regardless, the impact is fairly minimal and vastly dwarfed by the outcome of those placement games, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

Normal MMR has zero affect on your ranked.

Your MMR raise very fast with win streaks at low/average MMR so for a smurf you fly up really fast. The first few placement games on my smurf was against bronze and silvers at around 5-0 I started being matched with gold and plats irrc.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
February 28 2017 23:24 GMT
#54
On March 01 2017 05:49 Reson wrote:
Back with 2 noob questions

1)Is there a way to customize the preset item suggestions on the new client? I have pretty much never used the legacy one since I was new and especially now with the practice tool.

2) Im not level 30 yet since I played sparingly but does your normal MMR matter for the initial calibration or is the starting point or the calibration games always the same (i.e. Like Starcraft?) for everybody initially? Probably no official answer but is there a general consensus?

Thanks

gotta use 3rd party tools to edit the item set files right now as they haven't remade that functionality yet

GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
March 01 2017 15:34 GMT
#55
On March 01 2017 07:41 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 07:07 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that your normal MMR used to determine where your ranked MMR began in terms of placements, but in this new age of Solo and Flex Queue I'm not sure if that is still true. Regardless, the impact is fairly minimal and vastly dwarfed by the outcome of those placement games, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

Normal MMR has zero affect on your ranked.

Your MMR raise very fast with win streaks at low/average MMR so for a smurf you fly up really fast. The first few placement games on my smurf was against bronze and silvers at around 5-0 I started being matched with gold and plats irrc.

TIL. Thanks.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
March 01 2017 16:52 GMT
#56
Hey. I've been considering starting to play twisted treeline. Any big picture things I should know before jumping in so I don't embarrass myself and infuriate my teammates?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 01 2017 19:44 GMT
#57
Learn what the meta champions are (you can look up challenjour teams and see what's commonly picked/banned) and understand the importance of the jungle/alters. Smaller map means it's faster paced.
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dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
March 01 2017 21:24 GMT
#58
2 usual lane set ups -
1. top bruiser/ranged ad, jungle cc tank, bot ap caster
2. top tank cc support + carry champ (carry smite, support exh/heal) , bot ap caster

for the duo lane in #2 graves/taric is the most op one with taric being the best support by far. legit have never seen him lose and he is near perma banned high elo

you usually don't see #2 until you get to higher elo / premades.

anything that is a strong early game/low item teamfigher or oppressive laner is generally good in TT.

things that need to scale are generally bad with some exceptions.


just have fun with it and don't feel bad if people start to flame. people are way more prone to blame in that mode believe it or not. simply because a lot of them only play TT and have low tolerance for people new to it even if they are bad enough that they are stuck in the same elo as newbies to the mode.

also if you are in the diamond elo range, beware of the bullshit matchmaking. i've pretty much stopped playing the mode besides to prevent decay because of the match making. the last 3-4 games I've played on that mode on like 1 month intervals have been with low diamond/high plat solo players on my team vs premade challengers. its honestly retarded lol. its pretty fun climbing though since tons of champs are viable on TT /haven't been figured out on it.
TL/SKT
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 02 2017 07:53 GMT
#59
Still a ways out, but is anybody from TL planning on going to spring finals?

I've already confirmed tickets for myself and a few friends.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-04 05:19:26
March 04 2017 04:14 GMT
#60
Can someone briefly explain monster aggro and when the camp resets?

It is my understanding that monsters aggro the closer champ that attacks it and it will only reset have it changes aggro X number of times or it runs out of it's leash range. But, I have had two seperate incidents now where I drive by and hit a red/blue buff to assist a teammate then the monster chases me until it resets even though the teammate was attacking it the entire time. Do I have to let it hit me or what?

Edit: also what setting do I change so that my champ doesnt stop moving while I hold tab to look at scoreboard? Dont get why thats default setting.
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