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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On May 28 2016 04:37 MuddyJam wrote: Would steraks be the go to items on adc's for play vs invisible assassins. Say twitch/shaco/rengar? In addition to playing very safe when roaming and sticking to your team more. no you just stock on 5 pink wards ga is probably better if you have pinks | ||
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
On May 28 2016 04:48 Slayer91 wrote: no you just stock on 5 pink wards ga is probably better if you have pinks So i just take responsibility for pinking flanks etc even though I'm the adc? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
stealth champs are impossibly hard to deal with without pinks but at the same time nobody ever buys them because slots you very well might improve winrate by doing that just because you're taking an important responsibility on that your taemmates cant then fuck up by not doing it a lot of why stealth is OP is because they can get into position whenever they want and give allies time to react if you can suspect the stealth guy is close based on team moments drop a pink+someone insta cc and kill him in 1 second | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On May 28 2016 04:59 MuddyJam wrote: So i just take responsibility for pinking flanks etc even though I'm the adc? If you have the slot and nobody else does it, then yes if you dont want to get instagibbed. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. In such a situation dont be that guy that sits on four full items, boots and keep Dorans instead of grabbing a pink. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
I don't really see any other option working vs Zed anymore aside from maybe Steraks but the zhonyas active is just very strong and you decide when you use it etc. Thoughts on Zhonyas on ADC for defensive item? On May 27 2016 22:02 justiceknight wrote: who in the world can win lucian now?? I cant let other heroes unbanned like zed kindred if not my team will get destroyed, and since lucian is unbanned and opp has it, I will be the 1 destroyed. MF | ||
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
On May 28 2016 05:38 Bladeorade wrote: So I convinced my friend who plays ADC to buy a zhonyas as his defensive item vs a fed Zed.. worked out pretty well. I don't really see any other option working vs Zed anymore aside from maybe Steraks but the zhonyas active is just very strong and you decide when you use it etc. Thoughts on Zhonyas on ADC for defensive item? would work on kog'maw maybe as the ap is not wasted. Like your support should be exhausting the zed when he pops in. If you want to mix things up maybe have the adc take exh and the support heal? Only this would require the support to admit he can't be trusted in tf so that's not happening | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 28 2016 04:16 AsmodeusXI wrote: "Insubordination" is just one of those words that raises more questions than it answers. I need details to pile into my Reddit-fueled pitchforks machine. Probably tired of Piglet's bs. Reading through Reddit comments its really funny how Piglet is treated with kid gloves. Like 2 posts out 2500 mentions Piglet as a possible point of tension, the rest are "Oh, I feel so bad for Piglet he has to 1v9." Hilarious. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On May 28 2016 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote: he is an above average jungler but not op. Problem with zac is he is very inconsistent and gets destroyed by mobile adcs like ezreal and lucian. I have a friend that mains zac and its the same story a lot of the time. He gets super fed during laning but then when teamfights happen if you dont hit your E you dont really do that much and just die when you have a lot of the gold from your team. If we ever saw a return of an immobile adc meta (twitch vs jinx every game for example, totally possible if ezreal/lucian keep getting nerfed) then zac would come back to prominence. For now he's that jungler that you pray your team doesnt get dicked on by nid/grag/etc on first clear and then you can make a significant impact in mid game where he's strongest. Then he falls off late game again if you're against a mobile team. edit - if you want a sleeper jungler its hecarim. The champ absolutely kills it in masters/challenger, he's pretty broken in jungle I hate Zac because in addition to the weak ass first clear, he gets shit on by so many champions. Like, other team has Alistar? Janna? Trundle? Nami? Velkoz? Vi? Blitz? Rek'Sai? Taliyah? Sejuani? Rammus? Poppy? Hecarim? J4? Jayce? Maokai? Ziggs, Graves... I could go on but literally every champion who has a KnockUp / Knockback effect on a normal ability... Congrats, a normal ability will render the whole reason you picked the champion utterly useless. Knockups completely fizzle Zac E, then you stuck outside the enemy team and either have to just flash or run at them to initiate. Braum Shield fizzles your E too. This isn't even counting ultimate abilties that counter his engage. Its like literally half the pool that dicks Zac's initiate in some way. Most of them are fairly common / meta champions. At that point you might as well have a champion that is better / more scary when just running at the other team like Volibear instead. Or if you just using him for picks a champ like Elise is 100x better. That isn't even ult effects that totally counter him. I dunno, he has good ganks, but past 15 minutes you are playing an engage champion that literally can't engage. Still has good counter engage sure, but you need to wait for the other team to blow like 4 spells most of the time... as a tank that is fucking awful. I'd much rather my 2 defensive item jungler be Knockup instead of my AP carry. Before you hit the 4 minute mark you might as well not be in the game as well because you can't 2v2 anything. You have a real narrow window of time to effectively impact the game. If i had to jungle a tank it'd be Sejuani, Maokai or Sion. They do the same things, just they don't get those things dicked by everyone. That being said, if you loading into a game and their jungler has no pressure and they don't have these champions, he is pretty strong. Probably the best initiate in the game when it works. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
it makes so many stupid hard counters for the same design reasons they made QSS not cancel like 10 champions from existing | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 28 2016 04:28 M2 wrote: so getting S on a champ does not depends only on the particular game, but also some kind of overall average for that champ as well? Average from what? for what period? for what elo? From the Champion Mastery page's FAQ It’s based on the champion and role that you just played in a game. So, for example, we look at Annie mid differently to Annie support. We take a series of performance metrics and compare how you do to all other players in your region in your champion / position combination. It is percentile driven - so earning a high score means you performed in the top x% of players on that champ in that position. The grade itself governs the point gains. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
havent had anything higher then like 5 lose streak in a long time | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
On May 28 2016 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote: yea its a tilt/maturity thing not bad luck. I used to get 10+ loss streaks all the time when i was younger havent had anything higher then like 5 lose streak in a long time Your projecting really hard here seeing as you won't have seen any of the games. You can not tilt and still have long losing streak just due to luck or learning a new champion, or trying out new things. Like I will flat out tell you my internet being messing up in the past few days :/. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
On May 28 2016 11:47 MuddyJam wrote: I've now lost 12 of my past 13 games. Is that impressive for a loss/tilt streak? Depends on if you are the person to tilt. I've gone on 15 game loss streaks over 3-4 days, but I've also gone on big win streaks. I don't think I'm a person who tilts, ranked is just so random sometimes... From the Champion Mastery page's FAQ It’s based on the champion and role that you just played in a game. So, for example, we look at Annie mid differently to Annie support. We take a series of performance metrics and compare how you do to all other players in your region in your champion / position combination. It is percentile driven - so earning a high score means you performed in the top x% of players on that champ in that position. The grade itself governs the point gains. I wonder if it also takes into consideration rank: a Challenger Lucian is obviously going to be better in dmg stat, CS and perhaps even KDA than some bronze guy even if both win a game super hard. I don't really see any other option working vs Zed anymore aside from maybe Steraks but the zhonyas active is just very strong and you decide when you use it etc. I like to play Sivir, but getting spell shield onto his ult in a big team fight is absurdly difficult. Might actually consider going Zhonya's until they do something about him. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On May 28 2016 08:26 Slayer91 wrote: they really need to stop knockups interrupting abilities it makes so many stupid hard counters for the same design reasons they made QSS not cancel like 10 champions from existing That'd destroy so many champions, Janna (dont you dare touch mah waifu) and Alistar being the first which spring to mind. | ||
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