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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 27 2016 03:49 GMT
#321
To demonstrate how dumb Ryze is, I just had the most farm in the game, was 8/0/14, with the second most damage done on the team, and my score was only a B+.

LOL.

Thats like... ROFL. What the hell do you have to do on this champ to get an A or an S?

8 wins, 0 losses.

This champ is dumb.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
May 27 2016 10:31 GMT
#322
idk if ryze is like that too, but lee sin is a champ that is extremely hard to get an S on

in tons of games I have by far the highest kill participation (like 90% to next highest 60%) tons of kills, respectable damage for a utility lee, but end up with like a B- while the 10/10/10 adc that fed all game ends up with an S- while I'm like 5/0/25 or something

might be because of all the damage lees that get ridiculous kills, especially smurfs, but it was pretty weird and something my friends take note of alot when i play lee on my smurf.
TL/SKT
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
May 27 2016 10:54 GMT
#323
On May 27 2016 19:31 dsyxelic wrote:
idk if ryze is like that too, but lee sin is a champ that is extremely hard to get an S on

in tons of games I have by far the highest kill participation (like 90% to next highest 60%) tons of kills, respectable damage for a utility lee, but end up with like a B- while the 10/10/10 adc that fed all game ends up with an S- while I'm like 5/0/25 or something

might be because of all the damage lees that get ridiculous kills, especially smurfs, but it was pretty weird and something my friends take note of alot when i play lee on my smurf.


That's pretty weird. Getting a leesin on your team is auto loss 90% of the time if the guy isnt a smurf, so it shouldn't be that hard to get high grade.

Maybe it's due to assist grabbing with w, that you need to stack up tons of kills to get higher than average scores.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 15:09:04
May 27 2016 12:57 GMT
#324
On May 27 2016 07:49 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 07:05 Gahlo wrote:
On May 27 2016 06:07 MuddyJam wrote:
On May 27 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote:
You say you don't improve because you bounce around roles a lot. That's why people tend to stick to fewer roles, it aids in improvement.


yeah you just repeating back to me what i just said lol. Like it doesn't help me to repeat my conclusion back to me LOL.



You asked a question. I answered it. If you don't want that then don't post the question.


If i say i don't improve at this game bc I bounced around roles a lot, how do i not do this? then I get responce of hey, you shouldn't bounce around roles, you won't improve then I think its pretty normal to assume that person is being sarcastic or an idiot. You didn't answer anything you just restated the cause of the problem which was stated in the question lol. Its pretty normal to call this out as a terrible answer.

You can still improve if you bounce around a lot, just figure out what playstyle you like the most and play champions focused around said style in any given role. Being good at a specific style, usually mean you're good regardless of lane if you just play that style of champions. Huni being a "carry" type of player is a fine example.

I queue support/fill and I play supportive champions in every role outside of adc, because Twitch is too much fun and if he's picked/banned and nobody wants to trade something for adc I just dodge.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
May 27 2016 13:02 GMT
#325
who in the world can win lucian now?? I cant let other heroes unbanned like zed kindred if not my team will get destroyed, and since lucian is unbanned and opp has it, I will be the 1 destroyed.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 27 2016 13:05 GMT
#326
On May 27 2016 22:02 justiceknight wrote:
who in the world can win lucian now?? I cant let other heroes unbanned like zed kindred if not my team will get destroyed, and since lucian is unbanned and opp has it, I will be the 1 destroyed.

Beg your support to play Braum.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 27 2016 14:00 GMT
#327
i don't know how the system works but i had no problem getting my tokens for ryze. Usually comes from mid games where im in the action more, don't play him top if thats what you're doing. Besides that no idea.

I would never actually want ryze level 6 or 7 though LOL
I come in for the scraps
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 27 2016 14:46 GMT
#328
On May 27 2016 09:45 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 09:37 MuddyJam wrote:
Can any1 explain why this challenger pantheon gets the AP masteries?

http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=세체판

You can check other top korean pantheons and they all do this


natural talent?

cause it gives ad too. they just want maximum damage


sorcery because pantheon's damage mostly comes from abilities and he doesnt really need attack speed

That Vampirism/Natural Talent row is such garbage, but I had thought that the consensus was that Vampirism was slightly less garbage than Natural Talent. On Pantheon it's a choice between 0.55-3.3 AD at level 1-6, or ~1HP every AA and ~2HP every spear. The latter seems marginally less awful.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:14:07
May 27 2016 17:13 GMT
#329
Alright, I know his probably pretty fed but....
+ Show Spoiler +



it seems pretty legit a 6k HP tank can oneshot an adc (obligatory "rito pls"). Zac sleeper op? lol

I guess it's his jump or ult that makes his hitbox be inside the champion so all Protobelt projectiles hit.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:28:30
May 27 2016 17:23 GMT
#330
he is an above average jungler but not op.

Problem with zac is he is very inconsistent and gets destroyed by mobile adcs like ezreal and lucian.

I have a friend that mains zac and its the same story a lot of the time. He gets super fed during laning but then when teamfights happen if you dont hit your E you dont really do that much and just die when you have a lot of the gold from your team.

If we ever saw a return of an immobile adc meta (twitch vs jinx every game for example, totally possible if ezreal/lucian keep getting nerfed) then zac would come back to prominence.

For now he's that jungler that you pray your team doesnt get dicked on by nid/grag/etc on first clear and then you can make a significant impact in mid game where he's strongest. Then he falls off late game again if you're against a mobile team.

edit - if you want a sleeper jungler its hecarim.

The champ absolutely kills it in masters/challenger, he's pretty broken in jungle
I come in for the scraps
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:27:28
May 27 2016 17:24 GMT
#331
On May 27 2016 23:46 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 09:45 dsyxelic wrote:
On May 27 2016 09:37 MuddyJam wrote:
Can any1 explain why this challenger pantheon gets the AP masteries?

http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=세체판

You can check other top korean pantheons and they all do this


natural talent?

cause it gives ad too. they just want maximum damage


sorcery because pantheon's damage mostly comes from abilities and he doesnt really need attack speed

That Vampirism/Natural Talent row is such garbage, but I had thought that the consensus was that Vampirism was slightly less garbage than Natural Talent. On Pantheon it's a choice between 0.55-3.3 AD at level 1-6, or ~1HP every AA and ~2HP every spear. The latter seems marginally less awful.


the question was more about fury/socery seeing as pantheon will be building no AP and gets maginal dmg from the AP but may get a few more aa in

On May 27 2016 22:02 justiceknight wrote:
who in the world can win lucian now?? I cant let other heroes unbanned like zed kindred if not my team will get destroyed, and since lucian is unbanned and opp has it, I will be the 1 destroyed.



no idea why you ban kindred. She cant get sated now.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:45:10
May 27 2016 17:39 GMT
#332
On May 27 2016 09:06 Chemiczny84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 07:52 Slayer91 wrote:
you stick to one or two roles by never being satisfied with your play and always looking for ways to improve
swapping champion and role is like abandoning all your ideas for next game and your general quest and feels shitty

if you don't think much when you play you'll get bored and want to play another champ for novelty

both methods are fun the second requires less energy which is why most people are trash


how about broadening your ideas you had while playing one champ and trying them with others? please read your last sentence and think why you wrote it, imagine, there can be many ways to think about a game without making it your life's meaning


please read my post again before posting condescending comments
I never said you shouldn't try to play other champs I just explained if you're getting bored with one champ you are probably not thinking very much and playing with low energy

that or you dislike the champ but in the case you swamp champ every game that wouldn't apply

if you want to argue with me about something I'll contend your point about "it doesn't matter if you get outplayed once or twice if you know what role you are playing with your champ"

most champions within the same role are broadly similar and accomplish broadly the same thing, to the point that most champs with a 1-2k gold advantage will outplay most other champs in most situations nearly all the time
because having an extra item lets you split better duel better tank better teamfight better it doesn't matter if you have slightly less CC and ignoring your other strengths you might just be tankier and can hold off people just by being in their face

so yes, it does matter if you get outplayed "once or twice"
"once or twice" means 100's of times since you will make a ton of bad micro decisions if you don't know what you are doing with a champ and you'll just write it off as inexperience for a couple of the deaths that resulted from a cumulation of factors
aka Teutonica
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 27 2016 17:46 GMT
#333
On May 28 2016 02:24 MuddyJam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 23:46 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On May 27 2016 09:45 dsyxelic wrote:
On May 27 2016 09:37 MuddyJam wrote:
Can any1 explain why this challenger pantheon gets the AP masteries?

http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=세체판

You can check other top korean pantheons and they all do this


natural talent?

cause it gives ad too. they just want maximum damage


sorcery because pantheon's damage mostly comes from abilities and he doesnt really need attack speed

That Vampirism/Natural Talent row is such garbage, but I had thought that the consensus was that Vampirism was slightly less garbage than Natural Talent. On Pantheon it's a choice between 0.55-3.3 AD at level 1-6, or ~1HP every AA and ~2HP every spear. The latter seems marginally less awful.


the question was more about fury/socery seeing as pantheon will be building no AP and gets maginal dmg from the AP but may get a few more aa in

Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 22:02 justiceknight wrote:
who in the world can win lucian now?? I cant let other heroes unbanned like zed kindred if not my team will get destroyed, and since lucian is unbanned and opp has it, I will be the 1 destroyed.



no idea why you ban kindred. She cant get sated now.

having a mid-high 50's winrate at higher elo's isn't enough?

Her damage early game is still absolutely nuts considering she doesn't have any skillshots.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-27 17:58:57
May 27 2016 17:50 GMT
#334
On May 28 2016 02:13 Jek wrote:
Alright, I know his probably pretty fed but....
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjAER5c0QE#t=399

it seems pretty legit a 6k HP tank can oneshot an adc (obligatory "rito pls"). Zac sleeper op? lol

I guess it's his jump or ult that makes his hitbox be inside the champion so all Protobelt projectiles hit.


don't worry CSI Teutonica™ is here to rescue you from your fears and solve the case.

If you look closely; slow down zoom enhance, you'll see that Zac is a plant and not the real murderer here at all. The real culprit was, unsurprisingly, the black man who jumped and in got a double hit (and possibly crits) on the innocent white victim before arranging his getaway by being subsequently. one shot by the enemy team

Now, you might say, "But Teut, sivir was already low hp when the double shot hit!"

Look again. There was a rapid fire cannon extra range single auto that hit sivir just as the protobelt hit making it seem like a super nuke. The animation was canceled.
Lucian actually got 3 hits.
TWIST BY M. NIGHT SHAMALYAN
aka Teutonica
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
May 27 2016 18:05 GMT
#335
On May 28 2016 02:50 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 02:13 Jek wrote:
Alright, I know his probably pretty fed but....
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjAER5c0QE#t=399

it seems pretty legit a 6k HP tank can oneshot an adc (obligatory "rito pls"). Zac sleeper op? lol

I guess it's his jump or ult that makes his hitbox be inside the champion so all Protobelt projectiles hit.


don't worry CSI Teutonica™ is here to rescue you from your fears and solve the case.

If you look closely; slow down zoom enhance, you'll see that Zac is a plant and not the real murderer here at all. The real culprit was, unsurprisingly, the black man who jumped and in got a double hit (and possibly crits) on the innocent white victim before arranging his getaway by being subsequently. one shot by the enemy team

Now, you might say, "But Teut, sivir was already low hp when the double shot hit!"

Look again. There was a rapid fire cannon extra range single auto that hit sivir just as the protobelt hit making it seem like a super nuke. The animation was canceled.
Lucian actually got 3 hits.
TWIST BY M. NIGHT SHAMALYAN

Riot please hire this man as a post-game analyzer!
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 27 2016 18:41 GMT
#336
Don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by Lucian.
Carrilord has arrived.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 27 2016 18:53 GMT
#337
https://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2016/05/27/dardoch-suspension
Oo
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 27 2016 19:16 GMT
#338
"Insubordination" is just one of those words that raises more questions than it answers.

I need details to pile into my Reddit-fueled pitchforks machine.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
May 27 2016 19:28 GMT
#339
so getting S on a champ does not depends only on the particular game, but also some kind of overall average for that champ as well? Average from what? for what period? for what elo?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
May 27 2016 19:37 GMT
#340
Would steraks be the go to items on adc's for play vs invisible assassins. Say twitch/shaco/rengar?
In addition to playing very safe when roaming and sticking to your team more.
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