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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 27 2016 05:09 MuddyJam wrote: how do people stick to one/two roles?| I seems to bounce around every role constantly so I never improve at anything. Probably why. | ||
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
??? what are you even saying | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
On May 27 2016 05:52 Gahlo wrote: You say you don't improve because you bounce around roles a lot. That's why people tend to stick to fewer roles, it aids in improvement. yeah you just repeating back to me what i just said lol. Like it doesn't help me to repeat my conclusion back to me LOL. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I must be doing something wrong then. No big minion wave on either side, we're both level 6, I've got Phage, he has Cowl (that's what he rushed off of boots+4), I've got several passive stacks and my ult's passive ready to trigger and I've waited for his empowered's Q window to shut off. I jump him, he doesn't try to dodge my stun with W (he uses it, but lets me stun him), we're both ulting at the start. I have to run away because even though he's pretty low he's likely to kill me while we're both at 10% HP or so and if he gets his empowered Q at any point he'll outrun me and burst me for a stupid amount. He rushed fucking Cowl and got jumped at the worst moment for him and still won the fight. What the fuck? Plus he doesn't push to trade now so even though he's not stupidly oppressive shoving you to tower while getting back to full health, he can freely freeze the wave because he won't break the freeze, or barely so he can slow push you, if a fight breaks out. And later on with just Visage+Lucidity boots, and ~45 AP from runes/masteries/drake, he hit me for almost 400 with his empowered Q. Then in teamfights every other Q was empowered and healing him from 400 one teamfight to 900 two teamfights later, legit getting back a full quarter of his health. So what am I supposed to do if I can't outtrade him early (I should try clicking the person I jump to during the jump, because Jax doesn't automatically target it and sometimes if you press W it makes him stand still, so of course if that happens I should stop chasing since I'm out of aa range), and even when going tank against what isn't even my main source of damage he beats me handily? | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 27 2016 06:07 MuddyJam wrote: yeah you just repeating back to me what i just said lol. Like it doesn't help me to repeat my conclusion back to me LOL. Players rather win/focus on improve than play League for the novelty of different roles/champs. That said, I actually don't get players that bounce around roles/champs a lot. You're far less proficient than players who FOI, so how is it fun to get stomped. At best, you're basically hoping that who you're laning against is as bad as his champ as you are with your unpracticed one l0l. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 27 2016 06:07 MuddyJam wrote: yeah you just repeating back to me what i just said lol. Like it doesn't help me to repeat my conclusion back to me LOL. You asked a question. I answered it. If you don't want that then don't post the question. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:03 NeoIllusions wrote: Players rather win/focus on improve than play League for the novelty of different roles/champs. That said, I actually don't get players that bounce around roles/champs a lot. You're far less proficient than players who FOI, so how is it fun to get stomped. At best, you're basically hoping that who you're laning against is as bad as his champ as you are with your unpracticed one l0l. I feel like in past seasons it was a lot easier to do. With all the remakes and yoyoing constantly spewing out it feels a lot harder these days. | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:05 Gahlo wrote: You asked a question. I answered it. If you don't want that then don't post the question. How and why have a tiny bit of a different meaning, I also know why it is better to play only a few champs if you wanna climb the ladder, but wonder how do people not get bored after 10-20 games on the same champ, or even position On May 27 2016 07:03 NeoIllusions wrote: Players rather win/focus on improve than play League for the novelty of different roles/champs. That said, I actually don't get players that bounce around roles/champs a lot. You're far less proficient than players who FOI, so how is it fun to get stomped. At best, you're basically hoping that who you're laning against is as bad as his champ as you are with your unpracticed one l0l. One of the most fun things about LOL for me is every champion having different mechanics and feel, but general laning/jungling rules staying more or less similar, if you know what role you want to fulfill with the champ it doesn't matter if you get outplayed once or twice, a lot of what decides the game is mid-late shotcalling, at least in the scrub ELOs I have experience in (<=Gold). | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:18 zer0das wrote: I feel like in past seasons it was a lot easier to do. With all the remakes and yoyoing constantly spewing out it feels a lot harder these days. all the mages are still in tact, ADCs are mostly similar. the only real changes have been to taric and poppy. On May 27 2016 07:20 Chemiczny84 wrote: How and why have a tiny bit of a different meaning, I also know why it is better to play only a few champs if you wanna climb the ladder, but wonder how do people not get bored after 10-20 games on the same champ, or even position One of the most fun things about LOL for me is every champion having different mechanics and feel, but general laning/jungling rules staying more or less similar, if you know what role you want to fulfill with the champ it doesn't matter if you get outplayed once or twice, a lot of what decides the game is mid-late shotcalling, at least in the scrub ELOs I have experience in (<=Gold). this is true but part of the reason why people focus on a small champion pool is because it makes it much easier to focus on the macro game | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:41 Frolossus wrote: all the mages are still in tact, ADCs are mostly similar. the only real changes have been to taric and poppy. I mean it's not just the mechanics, it is knowing the power levels of what you're facing. If all the mages get reworked and have their numbers adjusted, suddenly you have no clue when you can beat them given x items and levels and when they'll beat you, which is really problematic when you play a lot of champions. And the fact that so many got changed at the same time, all your collective knowledge suddenly means jack diddly. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On May 26 2016 19:20 Fildun wrote: Yo teut, what about armpen reds on Garen? dunno do the meth bro AD red are better for last hitting so it if's break even they are better think im using armpen but only because they were better on new garen | ||
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:05 Gahlo wrote: You asked a question. I answered it. If you don't want that then don't post the question. If i say i don't improve at this game bc I bounced around roles a lot, how do i not do this? then I get responce of hey, you shouldn't bounce around roles, you won't improve then I think its pretty normal to assume that person is being sarcastic or an idiot. You didn't answer anything you just restated the cause of the problem which was stated in the question lol. Its pretty normal to call this out as a terrible answer. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
swapping champion and role is like abandoning all your ideas for next game and your general quest and feels shitty if you don't think much when you play you'll get bored and want to play another champ for novelty both methods are fun the second requires less energy which is why most people are trash | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
tons of different champs played in ranked, play pretty much all roles and hate playing the same shit over and over i know just FOI with a handful of champs/1 or 2 roles is best as i've done it before and reached my desired ranks. i flip back and forth tho. its also boring to just suck. so usually i try to reach a happy medium where i do a little bit of both. but yeah limiting champ pool/role is definitely the most efficient way to reach a higher rank. | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On May 27 2016 07:52 Slayer91 wrote: you stick to one or two roles by never being satisfied with your play and always looking for ways to improve swapping champion and role is like abandoning all your ideas for next game and your general quest and feels shitty if you don't think much when you play you'll get bored and want to play another champ for novelty both methods are fun the second requires less energy which is why most people are trash how about broadening your ideas you had while playing one champ and trying them with others? please read your last sentence and think why you wrote it, imagine, there can be many ways to think about a game without making it your life's meaning | ||
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MuddyJam
535 Posts
http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=세체판 You can check other top korean pantheons and they all do this | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On May 27 2016 09:37 MuddyJam wrote: Can any1 explain why this challenger pantheon gets the AP masteries? http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=세체판 You can check other top korean pantheons and they all do this natural talent? cause it gives ad too. they just want maximum damage sorcery because pantheon's damage mostly comes from abilities and he doesnt really need attack speed | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On May 27 2016 09:45 dsyxelic wrote: natural talent? cause it gives ad too. they just want maximum damage sorcery because pantheon's damage mostly comes from abilities and he doesnt really need attack speed Great explanation | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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