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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 15:39:18
May 06 2016 15:38 GMT
#201
well vlads early used to be super weak
his 3rd q heals a lot now, probably too hard for lb to harass him down
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 15:40 GMT
#202
On May 07 2016 00:37 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 00:32 Slayer91 wrote:
you've also experienced a low sample rate of games
leblanc will get out cs'd by anyone who can sustain and waveclear that fast most likely

You're just not high elo enough to understand Slayer91. In high elo (where, do not forget, VayneAuthority plays) no LeBlanc ever gets out cs'd by a sustain/waveclear mage. I mean they can't kill each other 1v1 because they don't have good base damage, but at that high of an elo (which, to remind you, VayneAuthority plays in and you could only dream of), a champ is obviously broken if they can beat LeBlanc in CS. But I guess it's too difficult a concept for you low-elo scrubs to understand.

Also, signs you are talking to a kid: aggressively using the word "kid" as a slur to someone who graduated college a decade ago.


You act like you still have a decade to go to get to college. Get treated like you deserve, that's how it works.

If you think you're being mature that's simply laughable, you never bring anything to the discussion except sarcastic comments like a piece of shit that has nothing better to do.
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 06 2016 15:43 GMT
#203
yea GI was in college back when fuckin savior was earning his chops iirc
veteran af
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 15:45:24
May 06 2016 15:45 GMT
#204
On May 07 2016 00:43 Slayer91 wrote:
yea GI was in college back when fuckin savior was earning his chops iirc
veteran af


lol I know who he is, he used to play this map bill307 made with me testie some tl mods and some other guys. team micro melee or something i cant remember the name.

I dont know why hes so antagonizing on these forums, condescends everyone when hes legit gold its ridiculous
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 15:51:02
May 06 2016 15:50 GMT
#205
yea was a weird game
testie used to 1 v 3 us in that UMS game with no CDs and no cap on upgrades
what a beast
by god I learned hotkeys fast trying to beat him
think we managed to 3v1 him eventually

dont know why you're so salty doe a few of your own games isnt sufficient proof for much
aka Teutonica
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:02:32
May 06 2016 15:52 GMT
#206
pretty much. I was always really good at macro in BW but i cant micro for shit since my APM is like 60. So I never got to play one of the micro roles since I was literally the only person that could macro against testie FeelsBad

Because its like the 5th time ive asked this guy not to talk to me on this forum since theres no mute/ignore feature. It is getting old, I literally dont care what he has to say and i've told him to stop but he continues to antagonize me on purpose. and he wants to be treated like he's over 13 xDDDD

Clear concise non rage answer - Taking a look at that same statistic he just took, malzahar is only at a 52.4% winrate. according to that malzahar clearly malzahar doesn't need a hotfix nerf right? But it's widely agreed he's much too strong even by Riot

Does GI talk about that? Nope. He only posts whats fit for his agenda so he can be a little douche.
I come in for the scraps
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 16:10:09
May 06 2016 16:08 GMT
#207
On May 07 2016 00:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
Because its like the 5th time ive asked this guy not to talk to me on this forum since theres no mute/ignore feature. It is getting old, I literally dont care what he has to say and i've told him to stop but he continues to antagonize me on purpose. and he wants to be treated like he's over 13 xDDDD

> literally getting triggered by getting quoted

Yeah, I'm the kid here.

Clear concise non rage answer - Taking a look at that same statistic he just took, malzahar is only at a 52.4% winrate. according to that malzahar clearly malzahar doesn't need a hotfix nerf right? But it's widely agreed he's much too strong even by Riot

That's even more interesting because it's 52.4% winrate in the jungle and 48% mid. But if you click through to Malzahar's page you'll see that he's way way strong in sub-Diamond elo, which strongly suggests either that a) the Diamond games are unrepresentative, or more likely b) that low elo players have no idea what Malzahar passive is and just run to Reddit to whine whenever something new and unfamiliar shows up. Another strong possibility is that low elo players that don't ban Malzahar are not banning him because they live under a rock and have no idea what Malzahar does now. Whereas high elo players that don't ban Malzahar already have played against him and know what to do. So the Diamond winrate could suggest that Riot is way overreacting here to baddies being bad.

Whew. Isn't this so much more interesting instead of throwing a hissy fit over a made-up feud no one else gives a shit about?

Does GI talk about that? Nope. He only posts whats fit for his agenda so he can be a little douche.

Oh, no, I guess not.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 16:15 GMT
#208
On May 07 2016 01:08 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 00:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
Because its like the 5th time ive asked this guy not to talk to me on this forum since theres no mute/ignore feature. It is getting old, I literally dont care what he has to say and i've told him to stop but he continues to antagonize me on purpose. and he wants to be treated like he's over 13 xDDDD

> literally getting triggered by getting quoted

Yeah, I'm the kid here.

Show nested quote +
Clear concise non rage answer - Taking a look at that same statistic he just took, malzahar is only at a 52.4% winrate. according to that malzahar clearly malzahar doesn't need a hotfix nerf right? But it's widely agreed he's much too strong even by Riot

That's even more interesting because it's 52.4% winrate in the jungle and 48% mid. But if you click through to Malzahar's page you'll see that he's way way strong in sub-Diamond elo, which strongly suggests either that a) the Diamond games are unrepresentative, or more likely b) that low elo players have no idea what Malzahar passive is and just run to Reddit to whine whenever something new and unfamiliar shows up. Another strong possibility is that low elo players that don't ban Malzahar are not banning him because they live under a rock and have no idea what Malzahar does now. Whereas high elo players that don't ban Malzahar already have played against him and know what to do. So the Diamond winrate could suggest that Riot is way overreacting here to baddies being bad.

Whew. Isn't this so much more interesting instead of throwing a hissy fit over a made-up feud no one else gives a shit about?

Show nested quote +
Does GI talk about that? Nope. He only posts whats fit for his agenda so he can be a little douche.

Oh, no, I guess not.


If you wanted to have a discussion you would post a discussion. Instead you just posted some sarcastic douche response to try and trigger me on purpose. Thats literally the definition of a 13 year old.

So yea I have zero interest in discussing anything with you so for the 6th time stop quoting me or talking to me or anything, thanks.
I come in for the scraps
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
May 06 2016 16:26 GMT
#209
Why does the undo button also undo mana and health when you're regenning in the fountain?
This is a bug that GREATLY irks me..
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 06 2016 16:32 GMT
#210
On May 07 2016 01:26 Uldridge wrote:
Why does the undo button also undo mana and health when you're regenning in the fountain?
This is a bug that GREATLY irks me..

To prevent people from buying health/mana/regen items and unbuying for faster healing.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
May 06 2016 16:38 GMT
#211
That's actually not a bug? O_O
The way they could fix that is to make fountain a healing place that negates all other sources of healing.
That way I don't need to wait 10 extra seconds before getting to lane if I make a wrong buy.
Taxes are for Terrans
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 06 2016 16:51 GMT
#212
didnt know malz was op but just say he was banned/requested ban so i just followed the leader LOL
never seen him played yet because of this
thx based hivemind
aka Teutonica
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
May 06 2016 16:54 GMT
#213
On May 07 2016 01:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
Does GI talk about that? Nope. He only posts whats fit for his agenda so he can be a little douche.

Oh, no, I guess not.


If you wanted to have a discussion you would post a discussion. Instead you just posted some sarcastic douche response to try and trigger me on purpose. Thats literally the definition of a 13 year old.

So yea I have zero interest in discussing anything with you so for the 6th time stop quoting me or talking to me or anything, thanks.
[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure that is not the definition of being a 13-year old, but reading it gave me a laugh.

I don't see VA's argument at all.

Malz's win rate is much higher than Vlad's, so going by win rate clearly suggests Vlad is much weaker.

If you ignore win rates and say that Riot hotfixing Malz is evidence that Malz is too strong, well, Riot is also buffing Vlad, so that too suggests Vlad is much weaker.

Also, just to be clear:

On May 06 2016 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
vlad does not need buffs lol. champs literally in every game and doing well already. this gonna push him to a ban probably


was followed by

On May 06 2016 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
Of course his winrates are going to be low when its mostly idiots trying him out once or twice due to reworks.


so even VA himself contradicted his own anecdote.

In my experience Vlad is indeed much weaker than he used to be, though his early wave clear did improve by a lot, which mitigates some of the lost strength.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 17:08:52
May 06 2016 16:59 GMT
#214
damn cowl is so bad now i have hard time justify buying it over hexdrinker even on ad tanks
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 17:07:03
May 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#215
[QUOTE]On May 07 2016 01:54 bmn wrote:

You would have to understand the context. GI takes everything riot/says does as gospel hes pretty much the most pro riot person here probably.

So what I am implying is GI uses those statistics to justify that Rito is correct and im wrong, but when it comes to malzahar, hotfix nerfing a 52% winrate champ seems hasty, but GI leaves that out of his bogus statistics because it doesnt support rito.

Hopefully that clarifies it for you.
I come in for the scraps
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 06 2016 17:18 GMT
#216
On May 07 2016 01:59 kongoline wrote:
damn cowl is so bad now i have hard time justify buying it over hexdrinker even on ad tanks

What is this mythical "AD tank" you speak of?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 17:25:28
May 06 2016 17:23 GMT
#217
ye it felt weird when i wrote it but cba to edit, mainly meant champions like olaf,darius, poppy on which i used to buy cowl vs ap and didnt upgrade until i finished my core but now it feels so bad compared to hexdrinker
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 06 2016 18:23 GMT
#218
On May 07 2016 02:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 01:59 kongoline wrote:
damn cowl is so bad now i have hard time justify buying it over hexdrinker even on ad tanks

What is this mythical "AD tank" you speak of?


a mythical time where warmogs/atmas was meta
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 06 2016 18:25 GMT
#219
On May 07 2016 00:27 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 18:34 Fildun wrote:
@Toot
I would've gone ignite thunderlords vs draven, with cloth 4 start. Either snowball or die trying.

Well, I go ignite thunderlords versus almost everything, so idk, might have to update that playstyle.


rite garens pre 6 is strong as fuck right
oh no wait its garbage

does thunderlords proc 3 times on E btw?

lol, I get most of my solokills pre6
but yeah its mostly garbage, it's just that nobody at my ELO knows anything about trading autos correctly so usually I just get 2 more autos off in a trade(vs melees)
and all those ranged dudes dont have the HP for that sick level 3 bursttttt

dunno what you mean about proccing 3 times, 3 ticks of E procs thunderlords if that's what you mean
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 06 2016 18:29 GMT
#220
yea but its only one spell wasnt sure
aka Teutonica
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