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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 06 2016 07:10 GMT
#181
On May 06 2016 15:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Out of the reworked mages who are the main ones that need nerfs soon? Aside from Malzahar

Annie's pretty decent atm, The little extra range from the dash is pretty huge for being able to engage on people, even if they know your flash is down you still have a low CD short range dash to close that little bit of distance.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 06 2016 07:16 GMT
#182
On May 06 2016 05:45 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 05:01 Jek wrote:
On May 06 2016 04:49 DarkCore wrote:
On May 06 2016 03:51 Jek wrote:
On May 06 2016 03:01 Bladeorade wrote:
So how broken is everything? Should I avoid ranked for a bit

As long as Syndra, Taric and Soraka are banned you are good to go.


Is Syndra broken now? Haven't seen her in a game yet. Soraka is insta ban for me anyway, Taric not so much, although with the right comp he just blows. Personally find Alisat more of a problem.

After the mage patch she's absolutely rediculous strong once she get Q max and even more so when W is maxed. She can have a trillionbillionmillion balls out now, it's pretty silly.

They slaughtered the amount of skill it takes to play her and made her much less interesting. I'm dying on the inside. For me this feels like old Xerath.

Yeah it's super depressing what they have done to her.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 07:17 GMT
#183
vlad does not need buffs lol. champs literally in every game and doing well already. this gonna push him to a ban probably
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
May 06 2016 07:40 GMT
#184
Yeah not sure why that isnt going to someone who needs it a lot more like anivia
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 07:42:19
May 06 2016 07:40 GMT
#185
wrong thread
Carrilord has arrived.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
May 06 2016 07:47 GMT
#186
On May 06 2016 06:24 Alaric wrote:
At least she's buffed. Look at Viktor.

She didn't need one, or at least not like this. Buffing by making her ult always do max damage (it's comical how easy it is to get 7 sphere ults now) is outrageously lame (and I suspect base damage will be nerfed because of it) and the W doesn't 'feel' powerful in a thematic sense.

A way more interesting W change would have been 'W can now be cast again within X seconds before going on cooldown'. That way she could actually feel like she is chucking her spheres around like a transcendent being.

Viktor did get dumpstered though, I feel really bad for Viktor players. At least my next two favourites in Zyra and Vel'Koz are relatively similar.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
May 06 2016 09:34 GMT
#187
@Toot
I would've gone ignite thunderlords vs draven, with cloth 4 start. Either snowball or die trying.

Well, I go ignite thunderlords versus almost everything, so idk, might have to update that playstyle.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 06 2016 12:30 GMT
#188
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 06 2016 13:24 GMT
#189
On May 06 2016 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
vlad does not need buffs lol. champs literally in every game and doing well already. this gonna push him to a ban probably

Today in VayneAuthority talking out of his ass: pre-hotfix Vlad is bottom 3 in winrate for both top (41% winrate) and mid (37% winrate) at dia+ in NA.

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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 13:53:48
May 06 2016 13:37 GMT
#190
5.4k game sample only, assuming his pickrate isnt that like 50 vlad games ?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 13:47:31
May 06 2016 13:45 GMT
#191
Much more than that, but sure, it's a small sample. But there's no reason to think that his winrate will meaningfully change with a larger sample. A small sample is only bad if you have reason to believe it is unrepresentative of the population as a whole. (Indeed if you look at all Vlad games and not just diamond+, you see the same result.)

So unless this site (which AFAIK is the only source for pre-hotfix data) is somehow only pulling games of Vlad noobs at every elo, it certainly dispels the notion that a <40% winrate champ is "doing well".
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2016 14:19 GMT
#192
On May 06 2016 16:47 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 06:24 Alaric wrote:
At least she's buffed. Look at Viktor.

She didn't need one, or at least not like this. Buffing by making her ult always do max damage (it's comical how easy it is to get 7 sphere ults now) is outrageously lame (and I suspect base damage will be nerfed because of it) and the W doesn't 'feel' powerful in a thematic sense.

A way more interesting W change would have been 'W can now be cast again within X seconds before going on cooldown'. That way she could actually feel like she is chucking her spheres around like a transcendent being.

Viktor did get dumpstered though, I feel really bad for Viktor players. At least my next two favourites in Zyra and Vel'Koz are relatively similar.

The E nerf is standard Riot shit and I'd just sigh and shrug at this point. However, making his ult tickrate "every 2 seconds" I don't understand the logic of at all and I don't remember them explaining it. That's the one that baffles me the most because increasing tickrate on a spell otherwise failing to apply much of its theorical damage is a "frequent" QoL.

What I don't get about Syndra is giving her the medium range, low cooldown 0.75 AP ratio. That's huge and a lot of single-target nukes don't hit that much, yet she gets it on an AoE ability that she can spam in lane to bully you.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 14:38 GMT
#193
On May 06 2016 22:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
vlad does not need buffs lol. champs literally in every game and doing well already. this gonna push him to a ban probably

Today in VayneAuthority talking out of his ass: pre-hotfix Vlad is bottom 3 in winrate for both top (41% winrate) and mid (37% winrate) at dia+ in NA.



can you please stop replying to my posts like i asked you to before you gold retard?

Of course his winrates are going to be low when its mostly idiots trying him out once or twice due to reworks.

The people that actually know how to play him have been destroying in my games. Just hada vlad out cs a former challenger lb 110-60

because he can instantly clear waves pretty early now and the new abyssal is insane on him as a rush item.

How about you play a fucking game for once in your life and stop going by statistics you prick.

But that would require you to actually put in time and get a decent ranking instead of just being a little bitch.

User was temp banned for this post.
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
May 06 2016 15:16 GMT
#194
is veigar retarded atm or it was just our mid overfeeding it? he had like 1100 ap in 25 minutes
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-06 15:28:11
May 06 2016 15:27 GMT
#195
On May 06 2016 18:34 Fildun wrote:
@Toot
I would've gone ignite thunderlords vs draven, with cloth 4 start. Either snowball or die trying.

Well, I go ignite thunderlords versus almost everything, so idk, might have to update that playstyle.


rite garens pre 6 is strong as fuck right
oh no wait its garbage

does thunderlords proc 3 times on E btw?

On May 06 2016 23:38 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 22:24 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On May 06 2016 16:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
vlad does not need buffs lol. champs literally in every game and doing well already. this gonna push him to a ban probably

Today in VayneAuthority talking out of his ass: pre-hotfix Vlad is bottom 3 in winrate for both top (41% winrate) and mid (37% winrate) at dia+ in NA.



can you please stop replying to my posts like i asked you to before you gold retard?

Of course his winrates are going to be low when its mostly idiots trying him out once or twice due to reworks.

The people that actually know how to play him have been destroying in my games. Just hada vlad out cs a former challenger lb 110-60

because he can instantly clear waves pretty early now and the new abyssal is insane on him as a rush item.

How about you play a fucking game for once in your life and stop going by statistics you prick.

But that would require you to actually put in time and get a decent ranking instead of just being a little bitch.


hi
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 15:29 GMT
#196
hello. im probably gone in a bit so see you guys in a week when the mods wake up. But kids like GI ruin this forum I swear to god.
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
May 06 2016 15:32 GMT
#197
you've also experienced a low sample rate of games
leblanc will get out cs'd by anyone who can sustain and waveclear that fast most likely
aka Teutonica
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 06 2016 15:35 GMT
#198
On May 07 2016 00:16 M2 wrote:
is veigar retarded atm or it was just our mid overfeeding it? he had like 1100 ap in 25 minutes

hes broken af
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2016 15:36 GMT
#199
On May 07 2016 00:32 Slayer91 wrote:
you've also experienced a low sample rate of games
leblanc will get out cs'd by anyone who can sustain and waveclear that fast most likely


It used to be vlad's hardest matchup hands down, I mained vlad mid at one point. he is considerably different, i dont know why but he feels way tankier for some reason. And being able to insta wave clear at level 7-ish instead of 11+ is a huge difference

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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 06 2016 15:37 GMT
#200
On May 07 2016 00:32 Slayer91 wrote:
you've also experienced a low sample rate of games
leblanc will get out cs'd by anyone who can sustain and waveclear that fast most likely

You're just not high elo enough to understand Slayer91. In high elo (where, do not forget, VayneAuthority plays) no LeBlanc ever gets out cs'd by a sustain/waveclear mage. I mean they can't kill each other 1v1 because they don't have good base damage, but at that high of an elo (which, to remind you, VayneAuthority plays in and you could only dream of), a champ is obviously broken if they can beat LeBlanc in CS. But I guess it's too difficult a concept for you low-elo scrubs to understand.

Also, signs you are talking to a kid: aggressively using the word "kid" as a slur to someone who graduated college a decade ago.

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