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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2015 22:34 GMT
#241
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3sauul/tsm_and_h2k_are_in_a_contract_battlebidding_war/cwvqdpr

Reginald responding to H2K scandal. I love how C9's owner replies almost instantly while adding absolutely nothing to the discussion. Honestly a bit disgusting to see such a thing. That's not to say Reginalds claims are invalid(Again all parties are prob a bit in the wrong anyway), just the whole thing stinks of scum with both of them replying at the same time.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 22:37:19
November 10 2015 22:36 GMT
#242
I will say H2K's response about TSM's 'reputation' is pure, completely unnecessary shit-stirring.

Sven seems like the most likely one to have started the fuck up here though, so whatever.
XDG Mata
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 10 2015 22:37 GMT
#243
Most impressive thing is that they really asked Amazing to return initially it seems LOL.


Amazing also turned us down because he wanted to stay in Europe.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 23:10:59
November 10 2015 22:47 GMT
#244
Oh hey Clerkie deleted/removed me for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
Eh, not like I missed much from that joke of an "owner", other than the fact that there's an evil trifecta (we all know which 3 teams he's salty about) in LCS and that Badawi is super nice guy.

I kind of hoped he would make an important leak on his twitter, lol.
xd
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
November 10 2015 23:28 GMT
#245
On November 11 2015 07:00 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.thescoreesports.com/lol/news/4746

Some rumors out of China, Uzi is currently reported to be valued at $7,857,929, Easyhoon going to China and World Elite playing musical chairs with their tops as Aluka goes to WE.F, Looper goes to WE and 957 goes to M3.

The latter two seem plausible but I would take that near 8 million price tag for Uzi with a silo of salt

RIP the KT Easyhoon dream.
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 10 2015 23:33 GMT
#246


Dig has filled their roster 4/5 of the way it seems, just looking for a top.


And now unless H2K provides some proof it seems like they don't have a strong claim in their case.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 10 2015 23:45 GMT
#247
now the question is who's going to be TSM's support?

DL, Bjerg, Svens locked, and one of Hauntzer/Zion locked as well.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
November 10 2015 23:52 GMT
#248
On November 11 2015 08:45 Mensol wrote:
now the question is who's going to be TSM's support?

DL, Bjerg, Svens locked, and one of Hauntzer/Zion locked as well.

Kasing is just as locked as any of the top laners are.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 11 2015 00:04 GMT
#249
Dig tryout open to all regions. so we can determine that core/helios are still on the team, or were replaced by an NA eligible player.
Carrilord has arrived.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
November 11 2015 00:39 GMT
#250
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snr7d7

Looks like everyone involved could benefit from some communication skills. And probably also someone else writing their statements, not rando twitter/reddit callouts. eSports!
XDG Mata
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 00:49:58
November 11 2015 00:46 GMT
#251
Sounds like classic regi. H2K did go through a journalist and make an official statement regarding the stuff. It was just the brilliant Regi and Jack knowing that doing a quick reddit reply would instantly turn the situation in their favour which resulted in the H2K needing to throw something out there to repair the situation before the community lynches them completely.

I mean it's already too late for H2K. They really shouldn't have tried to fight TSM lol. It doesn't matter if they were in the right, TSMs fanbase is too big and the community loves them too much for the truth to mean anything. You can see them dismissing everything H2K says already. One single post in a reddit thread is enough for Regi.
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
November 11 2015 00:48 GMT
#252
So Regi went to Richard Lewis with a story that specifically says TSM chose not to comment on something that's slandering him. Alright Rich dat logic dooooe.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 11 2015 00:54 GMT
#253
On November 11 2015 09:46 Numy wrote:
Sounds like classic regi. H2K did go through a journalist and make an official statement regarding the stuff. It was just the brilliant Regi and Jack knowing that doing a quick reddit reply would instantly turn the situation in their favour which resulted in the H2K needing to throw something out there to repair the situation before the community lynches them completely.

I mean it's already too late for H2K. They really shouldn't have tried to fight TSM lol. It doesn't matter if they were in the right, TSMs fanbase is too big and the community loves them too much for the truth to mean anything. You can see them dismissing everything H2K says already. One single post in a reddit thread is enough for Regi.

Dude you are the one that picks a side here without having a clue about anything, just because you dislike one of the sides involved.
Off-season = best season
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 00:58:24
November 11 2015 00:55 GMT
#254
You know what, fuck the whole anti-TSM thing. H2K's statements are just as shitpost-y.

For one, if H2K's manager had communication skills good enough for the negotiations, Sven would've known what he was doing was going to get all parties into hot water. He either did and Sven fucked up, or he did not. Two, calling out Regi's actions specifically is asinine when it's clear one of Sven or Regi are missing something, especially when the initial (completely unnecessary) statement had a bunch of irrelevant shit about TSM's reputation. I don't care if you think it's deserved, if he thinks it's deserved, who thinks it's deserved. It's irrelevant, shitpost-y pot stirring. Three, all their statements conflict, implying the mediator (Riot) was *also* missing accurate details. Finally, Sven said he signed nothing, which, depending on your biases, is either patently wrong, a blatant lie, or utterly damning.

If Regi, H2K's manager, Sven and Riot had communicated this all properly (preferably not out in public before anything was final, but again loleSports), no conflict would've happened. But no one involved can put half a PR statement together without a pissing match or leaving out important information.

But they can't, so now we get to enjoy lengthy legal drama, all because no one involved could be patient and thorough.
XDG Mata
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 01:11:52
November 11 2015 01:11 GMT
#255
If only esports people can shut the fuck up online and actually lawyer up, then maybe we will get fewer shitstorms.

Wait, if you put out PR-sanitized statements like SKT, instead of dumping things that should never be said, you will be labeled as "emotionless boring robots" by anonymous people online, hue.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 11 2015 01:27 GMT
#256
So sad that literally nobody in eSports is willing to hire actual PR personnel. "Public faces of the company". Someone who controls the communication and information flow. I would switch over immediately even if it would mean a huge pay cut...
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 01:39:21
November 11 2015 01:33 GMT
#257
On November 11 2015 09:55 Caiada wrote:
You know what, fuck the whole anti-TSM thing. H2K's statements are just as shitpost-y.


I agree. Saddens me that the TSM haters came out of the woodwork and came to the conclusion that TSM is obviously in the wrong because they are the bigger organization with the "evil" Reginald at its head. That's why I always laugh when people on this website shit on Reddit, as if simply being on LL discussing a topic means you are right and smarter than the average redditor. Especially when it is established members of LL circlejerking on TSM and calling for TSM to be banned without decisive proof of misconduct. WTF?

If it is truly a legal matter, the situation should resolve itself. No need to raise pitchforks and let emotions get in the way of logic.

Some thoughts by an esports lawyer on the situation: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3sauul/tsm_and_h2k_are_in_a_contract_battlebidding_war/cwvkwt0
The baylife, it burns!
Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
November 11 2015 01:47 GMT
#258
So between Georgey boy, Clerkie, and H2k Rich, I'm getting the impression that these smaller esports org owners really need some PR filters.

Also, in the hopefully-not-too-distant-future event of players unionizing, maybe owners can formally band together and hammer out some framework for stuff like this.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 11 2015 01:57 GMT
#259
I love how this entire website gets tarred as "anti-TSM". This is a forum, different people will have different views, get over it. Reddit get's painted as pro-TSM because majority rules on Reddit and TSM have the biggest fanbase, but there's plenty of reasonable well thought out posts there too.

Everyone comes out looking a bit shit here imo. H2K for lighting the fuse and bringing it public first off instead of working behind the scenes with Riot. Regi and his chums for springing straight at Reddit for muh community support. Sven probably should have known better than to sign something and look to back out of it too, but it's hard to know how much he knew in the situation.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-11 02:13:32
November 11 2015 02:12 GMT
#260
On November 11 2015 10:57 Amarok wrote:
I love how this entire website gets tarred as "anti-TSM". This is a forum, different people will have different views, get over it. Reddit get's painted as pro-TSM because majority rules on Reddit and TSM have the biggest fanbase, but there's plenty of reasonable well thought out posts there too.

Everyone comes out looking a bit shit here imo. H2K for lighting the fuse and bringing it public first off instead of working behind the scenes with Riot. Regi and his chums for springing straight at Reddit for muh community support. Sven probably should have known better than to sign something and look to back out of it too, but it's hard to know how much he knew in the situation.


Pretending like prevailing mindset isn't a thing just because the active poster amount is much smaller is kind of obtuse. Both sites really obviously have their biases; Reddit's are just outspoken and much funnier to point and laugh at.
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