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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#201
On November 11 2015 03:53 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
On November 11 2015 03:39 Celial wrote:
Svenskeren signed a letter of intent. Gonna be an interesting ruling by Riot. Its a fluid area, especially since both various European countries "laws" and interpretation of such a document as well as the North-american version of it are involved.

Also:

TSM was indifferent and determined to continue with the poaching—Reginald’s only response to Richard Wells was, “Well just do what you need to do”.

Thats so Regi.

I'm curious if NA/European law varies on this.. what happens?

This is the main question because according to this guy, oral agreements are binding in Germany, where LCS is being played.


H2K is a British org. Svenskeren is a Danish citizen. So its either UK or Danish law that is relevant here (which one is defined in the document, which we do not know).

Thats to decide the relation between H2K and Taipei Chingchong.

Then to decide whether TSM is guilty of poaching should be the language used in relation to the US legal system.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 10 2015 18:57 GMT
#202
Let's be real, no one in esports can afford to slapfight in court over a contract. The only law that applies here is riot's so it's on riot's judgement of the case.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#203
On November 11 2015 03:56 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2015 03:54 Celial wrote:
Just one little info: Letters of intent do not serve the purpose to guarantee a contract at the end. It is used to nail down specific parts, like for example salary benefits expected work done etc etc. Its used to create a foundation from which both parties can then work on hashing out a real contract. But the classic letter of intent can not force you to sign a contract at the end.

The fact that H2k goes to a journalist in an attempt to get public opinion on their side and put pressure on Riot also makes me think they believe they do not actually have a legal case here. Except they seem to hope for help from Riot ouside of the legal system.


Or they just think that they can't beat TSM in a fight of that nature so going to the people who can help them? There's really too much to this story to make assumptions. Our earlier stuff was more just what we hope for hilarity sake. The situation is more likely to have all parties partially in the wrong.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#204

Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 10 2015 19:00 GMT
#205
On November 11 2015 03:57 Fusilero wrote:
Let's be real, no one in esports can afford to slapfight in court over a contract. The only law that applies here is riot's so it's on riot's judgement of the case.


Regi, with the way deeper warchest, can atleast threaten going to court to force an out of court settlement with H2K.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 10 2015 19:19 GMT
#206
well this roster is pretty sick, but w/o any Asians I can't shrug the feeling they will struggle at MSI/Worlds
Carrilord has arrived.
neulin
Profile Joined January 2015
Lithuania45 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 19:43:24
November 10 2015 19:42 GMT
#207
Well LCK import can had cultural and communications problems. TL proven that individual skill means jack shit if you team can normal communicate. Tip even picked Gate over Adrian to try fix some communication problems in team. Big China fail at worlds ....
"You can either try to be the best or you can suck a cock" FORG1VEN
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
November 10 2015 19:48 GMT
#208
"Individual skill"
One trick Azir and guy year past his prime.

They might just go to IEM with dexter/kaSing and if it doesn't work, get imports in December/January, I don't remember right now when is transfer window closing.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 19:59:07
November 10 2015 19:55 GMT
#209
by h2k's telling of the story it's an agreement to sign a specified contract, not just to negotiate etc. that's above a standard letter of intent. but it may not be true. poaching rules are just stupid so i hope they don't base anything on that stuff.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Wita
Profile Joined January 2015
Denmark267 Posts
November 10 2015 20:01 GMT
#210
12,5k on Sven holy shit.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
November 10 2015 20:03 GMT
#211
Kasing should be a good suit, not so sure about Dexter, LOL.

Also 12,5k$ for Sven? What the...
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 10 2015 20:03 GMT
#212
Not sure if Sven is worth that kind of money and trouble, but who knows what the actual market out there is currently.
Never Knows Best.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 10 2015 20:12 GMT
#213
On November 11 2015 05:03 Slaughter wrote:
Not sure if Sven is worth that kind of money and trouble, but who knows what the actual market out there is currently.

Yeah I read numbers of this kind before, I think it is a pretty standard salary for TSM.
Off-season = best season
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
November 10 2015 20:13 GMT
#214
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2015 20:20 GMT
#215
It's not like that tweet is wrong. I'm sure if Sven has grown as a person at all he'll also say what he did was idiotic.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 10 2015 20:23 GMT
#216
150k salary just to blow it right before worlds with a single racial slur
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
November 10 2015 20:30 GMT
#217
no way sven is worth that amount of money
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
bbc23
Profile Joined September 2013
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 20:35:32
November 10 2015 20:33 GMT
#218
Not like there's a salary cap in the LCS so if that is what Regi thinks it takes to get the best available talent to him so be it. I'm sure DL/Bjerg are making a similar amount. Not sure about Hauntzer/KaSing, though you have to guess it's a pretty good amount.

I also think that the number getting out will significantly harm EU in the future because if you're not playing for Fnatic/Origen then what's the point when there's 6 figures waiting for you in Santa Monica. Really funny how it coincides with SK posting that announcement to try and build a new League team today since Sven will apparently make 2x what 5 players will combined will in that org.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-10 20:36:01
November 10 2015 20:35 GMT
#219
http://www.summoners-inn.de/de/news/33341-geruecht-neues-elements-superteam-ohne-dexter
New Elements: Cabo/Shook/Froggen/Hjarnam/Kasing
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 10 2015 20:36 GMT
#220
On November 11 2015 05:35 orzeu wrote:
http://www.summoners-inn.de/de/news/33341-geruecht-neues-elements-superteam-ohne-dexter
New Elements: Cabo/Shook/Froggen/Hjarnam/Kasing


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