[Patch 5.18] League of Legends General Discussion - Page 24

I often still see people calling Marksmen (ADC's) whiny for wanting their role to be changed but riot are doing some Marksmen changes. What do you personally think is the main issues and problems with the role? if any at all?
1. Being auto-attack focused can easily lead to lack of differentiation among all the other champs that are also auto-attack focused.
2. The need for Marksmen to take towers makes it really hard to evaluate whether they are too weak or not. Assassins just disappear when they aren't viable. Marksmen will likely never disappear. They just limp along if weak.
3. The player vision for "carry" can carry (ahem) some unrealistic expectations. We get some amount of "I'm not getting pentas, so I must be weak."
4. The entire power curve of weak early, strong late can make counterplay hard to solve. It's not counterplay to say "You shoulda stopped me 20 minutes ago, bro."
5. Lack of interesting item choices.
6. Overreliance on the RNG of crit.
7. Can't effectively play different roles or lanes but has a monopoly on bot lane (except for Morde).
8. They can kill squishies in so few shots late game that we kind of hit a power wall where we can't add any more power.
9. Ranged squishy means duels can be very one-sided. If I kite, I take no damage. If melee close, I deal no damage.
10. Built heavily into a team-fight role. This is overall a good thing for design, but tough on solo queue where you can't rely on coordination from a team to keep the Marksman alive.
11. So reliant on gaining gold and XP early that you can feel like you're playing your own minigame before actually joining the game later. This one is debatable and could be argued that it's interesting overall.
12. Always lots of interest in AP builds, but we struggle to make them feel balanced.
13. Since we're thematically tied to "dude with gun or bow" it can make new champion design challenging. This is more of a whiny developer problem and I'd say we did pretty well with Kindred.