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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 26 2015 07:22 GMT
#381
On September 26 2015 16:10 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Let's stop talking about doto and HotS here.
Thanks.

Isn't this the game design theory thread? Or does the split have even a subsplit I am not aware of?

This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 26 2015 07:28 GMT
#382
On September 26 2015 16:22 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 16:10 cLutZ wrote:
On September 26 2015 15:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Let's stop talking about doto and HotS here.
Thanks.

Isn't this the game design theory thread? Or does the split have even a subsplit I am not aware of?

Show nested quote +
This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

So yes, I am correct, comparisons of league to other games would be appropriate, and neo should ban himself.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
September 26 2015 07:53 GMT
#383
does soraka heal his ad more than the dmg he sacrifice with the W?


You can just google that lol. Looking at the numbers, Raka heal costs 10% of her health, and heals 120/150/180/210/240 +0.6 AP. That means if she has 2500 health (I'm thinking Warmogs Raka here), she will break even with a lv 5 heal. The more AP the more heal for less health. But that isn't really important bc her heal is a flat 10%, the best thing for Soraka is health regen and hitting that Q as much as possible.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 07:56:46
September 26 2015 07:56 GMT
#384
You guys made me want to play Soraka again, damn it. Should I run any amount of manareg runes on her?
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Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 09:22:10
September 26 2015 09:21 GMT
#385
I think you don't need manareg on Soraka.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 26 2015 09:37 GMT
#386
You should at least not run Warmogs.

Sure she needs HP, but CDR is better to heal more (and poke/sustain more), and resistances play better with her own sustain. With the range on her heal, warmog's passive requires her to be at over 3k HP, and not to target people busy fighting someone with AoE, so it's at best an antiburst and siege tool.
Better store up on CDR, and a mix of HP, resistances and AP.
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 26 2015 16:00 GMT
#387
From what I've checked on probuilds, most people are running Armor Quints, flat hp seals, 5xmres glyps, 4xmanareg glyphs and armor marks.
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
September 26 2015 18:03 GMT
#388
Warmog's is now *even shittier* for Soraka, and people still want to build it.

Mysteries of the universe.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2015 18:15 GMT
#389
On September 27 2015 03:03 Caiada wrote:
Warmog's is now *even shittier* for Soraka, and people still want to build it.

Mysteries of the universe.

Maybe if you're in super lategame, and you want the regen passive, but even then... :/
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 26 2015 18:33 GMT
#390
If you're super lategame, build a damage item or something
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
September 26 2015 18:41 GMT
#391
I always considered Warmogs a good buy vs poke comps. You can't hit them easily to get your own sustain working, and it mitigates the poke on yourself to a certain degree. Would never get it first or second item, it's purely situational.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 26 2015 18:45 GMT
#392
except your W is % so you are poking yourself
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 26 2015 19:18 GMT
#393
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 19:23:52
September 26 2015 19:23 GMT
#394
On September 27 2015 04:18 krndandaman wrote:
you don't even get the passive unless you have 3k hp either

so unless you're level 18 soraka with another health item (locket, visage, rubysightstone, etc.) and the warmogs, you don't even get the passive lol. just sightstone doesnt give enough health.

pretty underwhelming really seeing how its only useful with another health item + level 18.

if you're not level 18, you probably need 2 more health items on top of warmogs.

What 6 item soraka build doesn't have at least 3k hp?

edit: realistic 6-item
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 26 2015 19:27 GMT
#395
You'd probably pick up (ruby) sightstone and maybe locket/banner or something as HP items beforehand, and I'm guessing you'd be picking up Zeke's and mobis as a 4 item core for Raka. I'd probably try to get abyssal (or maybe Dcap/ soulstealer if feeling lucky) afterwards and leave my last slot open for wards.

Varies based on what team comps is, but that's how I usually build Raka.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 26 2015 19:31 GMT
#396
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 26 2015 19:33 GMT
#397
On September 27 2015 04:31 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2015 04:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 27 2015 04:18 krndandaman wrote:
you don't even get the passive unless you have 3k hp either

so unless you're level 18 soraka with another health item (locket, visage, rubysightstone, etc.) and the warmogs, you don't even get the passive lol. just sightstone doesnt give enough health.

pretty underwhelming really seeing how its only useful with another health item + level 18.

if you're not level 18, you probably need 2 more health items on top of warmogs.

What 6 item soraka build doesn't have at least 3k hp?

edit: realistic 6-item


with or without warmogs?

without warmogs everything lol.

with warmogs nothing

whats your point?

my point is that soraka support shouldnt be hitting level 18 reasonably any time soon before 40 minutes so warmogs as an item choice is automatically nearly always useless because you can't use the passive any time before then.

No one is disagreeing that early warmogs sucks. Mostly just saying it can be a good situational buy in lategame, which includes the parameters of level 18, and more than 1 hp item (outside of sightstone).
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 26 2015 19:36 GMT
#398
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 26 2015 19:57 GMT
#399
Soraka at level 18 has 1855 health. Warmog gives 800 health. So you still need 345 health from, probably, Locket. So yes, you COULD technically do it, but why not just build AP instead since the amount healed scales with AP? Building HP sounds like a terrible idea.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 26 2015 22:12 GMT
#400
I actually really like Majai on Soraka for similar reasons it's good on Janna
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