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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
i kinda liked old poppy | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
I'm not personally that excited for the new kit (doesn't look like something I would personally play) but I am glad old Poppy will be dead. What an awful kit that was. On November 25 2015 04:22 GrandInquisitor wrote: I'm not the only one thinking that Fervor is now going to be pretty useless in a Sanguine Blade kind of way, right? Like, even on Jax I'm thinking of switching to Precision/Stormraider's Surge. Sanguine Blade was great. It was disgustingly efficient and really easy to keep up with the slightest bit of effort. Fervor's bonuses will be good enough to still take. It's not supposed to be a tool to shit on your lane, it's for long fights on ADCs/ranged AA champions, not any rando bruiser in the top lane because it was OP. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
As a non-Poppy player her kit seems interesting. Her ult is hilarious at the very least. I suspect most Poppy players are going to be mad that she's lost her assassin potential. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On November 25 2015 04:50 Caiada wrote: Sanguine Blade was great. It was disgustingly efficient and really easy to keep up with the slightest bit of effort. Fervor's bonuses will be good enough to still take. It's not supposed to be a tool to shit on your lane, it's for long fights on ADCs/ranged AA champions, not any rando bruiser in the top lane because it was OP. But no one AA's 10 times in a fight. Right now it's basically a mastery that says have a free 10->80AD if you attack some minions first. These PBE notes suggest it's going to be "get +1->+8 AD for every AA you land in a teamfight", which practically speaking cuts its damage by 50-70%. Not making a value judgment about whether this is "good" or whatever, just looking for confirmation that Fervor's gutted so hard now that bruisers (even Jax, who Fervor is ostensibly perfect for) should switch to the superior Cunning penetration masteries and use Stormraider's Surge or Thunderlord's Decree instead. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
And here's how I envision 0-18-12 Jax: http://efferentinc.com/wp-content/lol6calc/index.html#YK0CvClKKxCly I think Ferocity is better than Resolve. You're trading: 6% bonus armor/MR -2 damage from basic attacks 8% bonus to shields/healing 15% summoner spell CDR for 4% attack speed 3.5% increased damage / 1.5% increased damage taken 2.5% lifesteal/vamp 2.5% increased damage to CC'd targets OR 1% increased damage based on number of unique kills In the Resolve tree, none of that really excites me that much. 6% bonus armor/MR has nice synergy with your ult, but with the new Rageblade/Gunblade/Triforce build that's all the synergy you get until your 4th or 5th item. 8% bonus to healing turns Gunblade's 15% healing into 16.2% healing; it's not clear whether that's better than 2.5% lifesteal and vamp but I think it's not. The Cunning/Ferocity keystone debate is a closer one. There you're trading: 7% armor pen Nerfed Fervor for Buffed Precision (5.5-14 armor pen / 3.3-8.4 magic pen) Stormraider's Surge OR Thunderlord's Decree I think Cunning is going to be better, which is kinda sad because it's hard to imagine a better candidate for Fervor than Jax. But even in lane Jax is mostly about burst trades (Q-aa (ult passive proc)-W reset) rather than a long, 10-AA trade. | ||
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kongoline
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
Anivia Flash Frost (Q) chill duration lowered to 2 seconds from 3 seconds. [s] Glacial Storm (R) chill duration lowered to 1 seconds from 2 seconds. [s 1& s 2] not that i care i secretly hate that champion ;p | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
Pooooo po po po po pooooooooopyyyyyy. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
I'm wondering if she could be some niche support pick with new kit, especially with her new W that gives MS and stops enemy dashes + R for peeling/initiating. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Like, I don't think it would be awful later on. Your ultimate is a good tool for helping your team, anti-dash isn't shabby, Q is a huge slow, and E CC is strong. But laning phase would be a nightmare. If you want to play with less gold jungle is probably a far better option. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
The new damage mastery in Cunning is quite exciting! Looks like Riot wants more people to figure out the power of Cunning over Ferocity. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35142 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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