EPTWould explain why she was doing like 500+ true damage though. Good lawd.
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Would explain why she was doing like 500+ true damage though. Good lawd. | ||
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
Soraka is not reliable so she doesnt see play. That being said I really wish someone would grab it in a sexy 5th pick cheese one-off game and then figure out the proper conditions to draft it occasionally. :/ Her and Zilean. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On August 11 2015 04:28 JJMC wrote: Doesn't Fiora have like 35% winrate? Played her and against her and didn't even consider that a real champion. new fiora is probably pretty bad. On August 11 2015 04:59 Purge wrote: Reliability is king. Soraka is a 5th pick cheese pick that can win you the game in champ select if the other team doesn't have an answer for her rediculous heals and can let you get away with having no support presence in the early game, but gets absolutely dismantled by control of any form. I honestly think Alistar is her hardcounter and hes priority right now so that says alot as well. Soraka is not reliable so she doesnt see play. That being said I really wish someone would grab it in a sexy 5th pick cheese one-off game and then figure out the proper conditions to draft it occasionally. :/ Her and Zilean. Why is alistar a counter to soraka? He has a fairly weak engage and low damage meaning its pretty easy for soraka to outheal sorakas quite strong in lane due to insane heals and quite strong in 3v3's but weak against ganks and cant aggressively roam | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
The real hardcounter to soraka is laneswaps and junglers. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:11 nafta wrote: Zilean is the only champ in the game that has made me go "this shit is too hard not worth".Like seriously those bombs really need a buff. The real hardcounter to soraka is laneswaps and junglers. Why do you say that? What is it about laneswaps that hardcounter Soraka? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:35 Sonnington wrote: Why do you say that? What is it about laneswaps that hardcounter Soraka? soraka has no strong gank escapes the way shit like thresh alistar janna have and she also can't harass well in a 2v1 situation she is probably okay at 3v1 dives because of heal and sielnce though in fact probably really strong combined with jinx and junglers cc since you can just get a guaranteed silence+root | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:41 Slayer91 wrote: soraka has no strong gank escapes the way shit like thresh alistar janna have and she also can't harass well in a 2v1 situation she is probably okay at 3v1 dives because of heal and sielnce though in fact probably really strong combined with jinx and junglers cc since you can just get a guaranteed silence+root problem is 3v1 dives don't happen unless the enemy fuck up real bad but then it doesn't matter champ you picked really | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Fiora's new and difficult to play and not really traditional at all and undertuned. I dunno what people expected for her winrate. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:49 Caiada wrote: Zilean is a bunch of setup for one scenario he's kinda-sorta good at, if your team is in a position to follow up, and you have a good ult target, and they're squishy. I hate the whole idea of his kit. I own him because at least he was fun in aram because lolbombs; he doesn't even have that now. I dunno, I think lobbing bombs at health packs and Dirty Harrying it is amusing. | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:55 Purge wrote: I dont see how Soraka survives in a professional game with an Alistar on the other team specifically. Early she just gets outroamed in the laneswap - what exactly does soraka do in a laneswap? At the very least she cannot make solo plays like Alistar and has to work with her jungler to gank and even then she has a high chance of getting counterganked. And in the teamfight phase she just gets flanked, cced and then cannot do anything against Alistar's control. Or at least thats how i see it playing out. Couldn't she be a real pain in the ass in invades? Especially if you pull the jungler with you and just drop the silence/snare field on them while they're taking gromp? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On August 11 2015 05:55 Purge wrote: I dont see how Soraka survives in a professional game with an Alistar on the other team specifically. Early she just gets outroamed in the laneswap - what exactly does soraka do in a laneswap? At the very least she cannot make solo plays like Alistar and has to work with her jungler to gank and even then she has a high chance of getting counterganked. And in the teamfight phase she just gets flanked, cced and then cannot do anything against Alistar's control. Or at least thats how i see it playing out. alistar doesnt interact with soraka at all really. alistar usually plays defensively or a head on engage, soraka stays furthest behind, alistar isn't really anything to soraka | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On August 11 2015 02:55 Slayer91 wrote: her roaming is actually sick you run to mid laen heal him to full and its gg Honestly Soraka is very, very strong but the problem is that you have to build the team around her and that's not exactly a popular idea in League. On August 11 2015 04:04 Caiada wrote: Wondering why Soraka isn't picked in a meta dominated by support roams and engage control. Alright. I find her to be a very strong zoning support, her E is basically a gravity field with a silence attached. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
She's fantastic in soloq. I've said as much since she got reworked, actually. But in competitive? Not until someone counters 2v1 and Sivir gets nerfed. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On August 11 2015 07:00 krndandaman wrote: a perfectly played soraka should be fine vs alistar but alistar punishes any positioning mistake from soraka really hard. especially in ganks. however this is not specific to alistar and applies to thresh/leona/annie/naut. alistar doesnt punish soraka hard at all compard to thresh/leona or whatever | ||
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