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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 18 2015 06:07 GMT
#401
yeesh, finally able to climb into Plat 1. now onto diamond then I'm gonna play CS:GO
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 07:36:28
June 18 2015 07:06 GMT
#402
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 18 2015 07:38 GMT
#403
I've used some of those words and havent been punished outside of the usual chat restrict
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2015 08:55 GMT
#404
Holy crap Luden's up to 10% MS? That's stronger than getting boots2 now (7% wasn't enough to beat boots2 even for Pantheon, although with such high base MS you'd outrun lower base MS champs even with boots disadvantage anyway).
That's going to be obnoxious to chase poke mages with cc and defense, or worse: mobility.

I get that the passive is a bit meh to them (and hard to balance) so they want something else out of it, but a very high %MS isn't that great a way to do it.
Seraph's harder to get because 300 more gold needed, but on the other hand it's not that different from the 1140 combine cost, sooo...

I'm not a fan of RoA giving less HP, though: it was picked up by champions who wanted either more tankiness (including in lane) or mana pool, "only" being 80 AP once stacked was never a concern. 300 HP is still not that bad, but it's... underwhelming for squishy champions who hoped to get a bit sturdier.

On the other hand, and I'm sure Yango who harped about how speed buffs/debuffs stacked compared to DotA noticed it:
This is a very powerful push in terms of Rylai's overall power - but we'll be looking at modifying and cleaning up of the slow rules as well either now or in the near future.


And WotA is stupid with these numbers, yeah. I can get the idea but apart from the "minions" case it's so much stronger in this iteration it's not even funny, and the scaling is derlirious.
Also what does "spell and abilities" mean, is it the same as now, or would it mean Azir heals a bunch whenever he presses Q+right click on a bunch of tanks?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
June 18 2015 09:25 GMT
#405
Real talk, why do people still use blitz in solo queue? he's so fucking useless in lane and out of lane he's situational. No point in taking him over thresh, yet i see blitz all the fuckign time.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
June 18 2015 09:37 GMT
#406
Blitz has still a way better soloq winrate than Thresh, so very likely you just underestimate him.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 18 2015 10:05 GMT
#407
I dont know how i feel about nlr being so cheap now
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 18 2015 10:07 GMT
#408
Because Blitz's hook is way better for soloqueue than Thresh's one plus aoe silence, burst and mana shield exist.

Not mentioning fact that Blitz in other team gives -5 to morale instantly.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2015 10:11 GMT
#409
You know you're getting invaded whenever Blitz is picked and people are more pressured.

He's also better when you're sieging but not strong enough to straight-up dive them.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 18 2015 10:12 GMT
#410
zilean has 56% winrate clearly OpieOP ~~

User was warned for this post
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 18 2015 10:39 GMT
#411
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 18 2015 11:23 GMT
#412
On June 18 2015 14:09 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
At a very brief glance, this seems like it might mitigate snowballing in mid.


I was going to say the opposite, but I totally missed them changing NLR to 1250 gold.

I still dont really get why they are making AP itemization more flexible, I think they have the most item flexibility in the game as it stands by far... but i suppose thats just my opinion.

Just Riot proving once again that AP is their baby and spoiling the fuck out of it.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
June 18 2015 12:14 GMT
#413
Blitz is a perfectly viable champion (and my main) because he offers very strong engage and good situational disengage which is really all you can ask out of a support. The biggest thing Thresh has that he doesn't is lantern, as his QE are still very powerful.

Really I've noticed those who hate Blitz the most are completely ineffective at playing him and/or they get a Blitzcrank support who underperforms and they cry about how bad he is as a champion. Like, any champion who goes 0/8/2 probably looks bad.

You just need to be able to hit hooks in good spots and you're golden.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 18 2015 13:32 GMT
#414
On June 18 2015 14:09 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
At a very brief glance, this seems like it might mitigate snowballing in mid.


I was going to say the opposite, but I totally missed them changing NLR to 1250 gold.

I still dont really get why they are making AP itemization more flexible, I think they have the most item flexibility in the game as it stands by far... but i suppose thats just my opinion.


yup, cheaper items means that you have to farm less to make up and get enough gold for a NLR or other item if you get killed or something. seems good for champs like azir, cass with some sustained damage but not as much burst.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2015 13:39 GMT
#415
Someone also pointed out how "good base, meh ratio" would probably be nerfed by the changes to Deathcap (more AP), Guise and Void Staff (more costly penetration), which makes sense.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 14:20:30
June 18 2015 14:14 GMT
#416


New champion teaser released on Chinese Riot website, Tamm, King of the Rivers
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 18 2015 14:28 GMT
#417
On June 18 2015 22:39 Alaric wrote:
Someone also pointed out how "good base, meh ratio" would probably be nerfed by the changes to Deathcap (more AP), Guise and Void Staff (more costly penetration), which makes sense.

Yes. This seems like it will have the opposite effect that riot wants. Pushing people further into the consistent damage/wave clear mids and away from the utility mids.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-18 14:40:39
June 18 2015 14:37 GMT
#418
On June 18 2015 23:14 Mensol wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POzIylGkZqg

New champion teaser released on Chinese Riot website, Tamm, King of the Rivers



l o l pictures of new champion creepy
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 18 2015 14:39 GMT
#419
Cheaper NLR is probably the most interesting part, since it affects more than just the mid lane.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
June 18 2015 14:56 GMT
#420
I hope the new champion can kill people with its brain.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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