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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 17 2015 13:16 GMT
#361
Its not just for running at people.Being able to engage/disengage/have ok damage and the best defensive ability in the game is pretty fucking good overall.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 13:22:23
June 17 2015 13:19 GMT
#362
On June 17 2015 22:16 nafta wrote:
Its not just for running at people.Being able to engage/disengage/have ok damage and the best defensive ability in the game is pretty fucking good overall.

Yes, but if you're the main damage threat on your team, you're gonna have a bad time. Yes, you do have the spellshield and the ult, but when they throw all of their abilities at you at least one of them is gonna stick, and you need your team to punish that. If your team cant do that you're in a pretty shitty place.

Actually that goes for all ADC's with a shit team. I'm not sure where I'm going with this.

Edit: I guess I'm just salty about the last loss with Sivir. AP Yasuo too strong.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 13:46:47
June 17 2015 13:39 GMT
#363
On June 17 2015 22:19 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 22:16 nafta wrote:
Its not just for running at people.Being able to engage/disengage/have ok damage and the best defensive ability in the game is pretty fucking good overall.

Yes, but if you're the main damage threat on your team, you're gonna have a bad time. Yes, you do have the spellshield and the ult, but when they throw all of their abilities at you at least one of them is gonna stick, and you need your team to punish that. If your team cant do that you're in a pretty shitty place.

Actually that goes for all ADC's with a shit team. I'm not sure where I'm going with this.

Edit: I guess I'm just salty about the last loss with Sivir. AP Yasuo too strong.

if you are the only threat and the enemy isnt stupid you still wont do anything unless your team has champions that buff you regardless what is your champ so getting a catch and being able to run away from dumb situations is pretty good.Right now honestly if kalista or sivir are open no reason not to pick.

that game if you werent sivir youd just die to vi ult+w/e
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
June 17 2015 14:40 GMT
#364
Sivir is probably my favorite adc if I can play her into the team comp, just press R and run around stupidly while my tanks/assassins dive their back line. Also extremely easy to farm with so it just makes me look like a much better adc than I actually am lol
In Inca we trust
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 17 2015 16:43 GMT
#365
One of my friends played against this guy http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=drrock .

Find it pretty funny that he has such insane KDAs across the board yet is in gold with nearly 500 games played. Guess it shows that Janna is definitely not a champ you can carry on.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:50:14
June 17 2015 16:49 GMT
#366
On June 18 2015 01:43 schmutttt wrote:
One of my friends played against this guy http://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=drrock .

Find it pretty funny that he has such insane KDAs across the board yet is in gold with nearly 500 games played. Guess it shows that Janna is definitely not a champ you can carry on.

it shows that kda isn't something you can carry with alone.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 17 2015 17:46 GMT
#367
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 17 2015 17:46 GMT
#368
On June 17 2015 22:03 kongoline wrote:
u must be playing different game because most of my games are decided by botlane

I kinda feel this way and kinda don't. It seems like whomever wins boy lane also wins the jungle or top. Usually on the same play. And then the other ADC is behind and can't kill the winning tanky jungler/top and the other team just rolls them. But I feel like this is less "decided by bot lane" than it is "meta tends to snowball a teams consistent damage and tank/engage at the same time".

Then there is lategame where AD is AD and the lack of strong assassins (LB is OK but nothing like they used to be) means consistent damage is where it's at. (Why do you see so many Viktor/Azir/Cass picks in competitive now? It's because you have to bring consistent damage from the mid lane as well as wave clear if you want to have a chance to win a team fight against the current set of tanks.)
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 17 2015 18:30 GMT
#369
On June 18 2015 02:46 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 22:03 kongoline wrote:
u must be playing different game because most of my games are decided by botlane

I kinda feel this way and kinda don't. It seems like whomever wins boy lane also wins the jungle or top. Usually on the same play. And then the other ADC is behind and can't kill the winning tanky jungler/top and the other team just rolls them. But I feel like this is less "decided by bot lane" than it is "meta tends to snowball a teams consistent damage and tank/engage at the same time".

Then there is lategame where AD is AD and the lack of strong assassins (LB is OK but nothing like they used to be) means consistent damage is where it's at. (Why do you see so many Viktor/Azir/Cass picks in competitive now? It's because you have to bring consistent damage from the mid lane as well as wave clear if you want to have a chance to win a team fight against the current set of tanks.)

also the increase of stuff like alistar/naut support really screws over most assassins
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 17 2015 18:37 GMT
#370
IMO the issue is more tanks are too strong really, they soak damage too well AND they do too much damage.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 19:25:59
June 17 2015 19:18 GMT
#371
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 20:46:12
June 17 2015 20:38 GMT
#372
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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 17 2015 21:07 GMT
#373
It could also just be someone who is too cautious. You can put up a lot of assit numbers on Janna and sona really easily and get massive KDAsbut sometimes the optimal thing to do is to body block for your AD/mid and die instead of them.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 17 2015 21:22 GMT
#374
That's a tough concept for a lot of players. It's really hard to tell the difference between a pointless and a pointful death.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 17 2015 21:27 GMT
#375
On June 18 2015 06:22 Seuss wrote:
That's a tough concept for a lot of players. It's really hard to tell the difference between a pointless and a pointful death.

And then not have other bad players try to "make up" for your death, despite it's goal already being accomplished.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 17 2015 21:30 GMT
#376
True. Golden rule is "the support is not worth saving" and "it's always worth trading the support" though so for someone who plays what looks like exclusively support it is a weakness.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 17 2015 21:53 GMT
#377
'cept when you play Soraka.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 17 2015 22:00 GMT
#378
Look at his games man. He seems to go afk whenever someone is feeding, not hard to have a great KDA when you're idling away in the fountain. That and he never adjust his build against what he's playing vs, doesn't grab Locket when jungler doesn't either against 3x AP for crying out loud. Hardly says anything about the champion.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 17 2015 22:17 GMT
#379
On June 18 2015 06:53 Alaric wrote:
'cept when you play Soraka.


True. Unless you're going to need wave clear in the immediate future.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 17 2015 22:39 GMT
#380
Man, Kassadin really gets shat on by Garen.
Freeeeeeedom
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