EPT[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 64
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kongoline
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 24 2015 20:39 AlterKot wrote: Oh don't you worry about me being banned  Meanwhile I'll keep on laughing at how riddiculous it is that people are offended by "gg easy" and that people are using "summoner's code" to determine what's right or wrong.Put it that way: people usually say they like TL's style of moderation, when one of the 10 commandements is "our house, our rules". LoL is Riot's game, so no matter how people try to make fun of the summoner's code for being silly or whatever and not catering to their own perception of how they shsould be allowed to act in a game, it's basically Riot's version of "our house, our rules" and you're supposed to abide by them. Mathematically speaking, a case can be made for the promotions changes, as in despite the "BoX" system, you still need to win one game to reach it right after you fail 1-2 or 2-3 Essentially, after failing a promo you need to win the next one, then 2-1 or 3-2, which is still 3-1 or 4-2 overall. if you factor in the previous promotion failure you still get 4-3 or 6-5 (and then you can add the previous game needed to reach that promo series, etc.). In the long term, if you win over 50% of your games, you should theorically climb up. But the promos system means that in the short term you have to win between 75% or 66% of your games, which is very high and creates the obstacle (and if you don't win the game right after the promo failure you're back to the "get over 50%" stage anyway since you need to win once + the number of games you lose before you reach that number). If it didn't make winning streaks so crucial, it wouldn't be as frustrating, as a player experience. Of course if we still had Elo it wouldn't be needed in the first place. With their system you need to win 50% of your games after you've narrowly lost a promo series before (I think they require you to go 1-2 or 2-3 to give the free win? Forgot), so it's statistically not that bad if you've proven you had success before, I assume. However, yeah it does look "ugly" in a systemic way. | ||
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ConanTroutman
Canada67 Posts
Seriously though, the type of people who say GG easy when they win are probably the same people who whine and rage all game when they lose, ie emotionally immature teenagers who have not yet developed enough to understand the concept of sportsmanship or manners. I'm all for putting them on time-out until they learn how to act like adults. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On May 24 2015 20:39 AlterKot wrote: Oh don't you worry about me being banned Meanwhile I'll keep on laughing at how riddiculous it is that people are offended by "gg easy" and that people are using "summoner's code" to determine what's right or wrong.I do not care if anybody get banned. I just find it stupid that people are complaining when if they could read they knew Riot doesnt like this behavior. Thats the bottom line. In germany we have a nice saying which roughly translates to "Ignorance is no excuse in law." The law is in this case made by Riot | ||
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kongoline
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On May 24 2015 20:53 kongoline wrote: i never write gg easy but sometimes after a complete stomp i say "gg close" (if im winning or losing doesnt matter) do people actually get salty over this and report me lol? what a great system i actually consider not writing at all anymore, it makes me so angry i want riot to fail as a company so their retarded attempt to fix internet What you are saying is somewhat different, and I wrote gg easy or close many times when we got stomped. On the other hand, I reported many of my teammates during the years for gg easy. It's even worse, when you know that the guy saying it not only sucked dick the whole game and had to be carried, but kept qq-ing and /ff-ing in teamchat. What is an 8-years old behaviour if not that? On May 24 2015 20:01 Scip wrote: Oh no, someone hurt my feelings by saying "gg easy", I want them to be prevented from playing the game anymore!! Who is surprised that someone in favor of gg easy-ing makes a post a like this? Haha, I love how this new system lures out some people. On May 24 2015 20:39 AlterKot wrote: Oh don't you worry about me being banned Meanwhile I'll keep on laughing at how riddiculous it is that people are offended by "gg easy" and that people are using "summoner's code" to determine what's right or wrong.Remember that people are not offended by gg easy because the summoner's code basically forbids it, they just have to bring it up in order to have a more solid argument than "I don't like it, so punish it!". Which is basically you ggeasy-ers are doing; you either throw around some more insults to try to convince the rest of us, or say that you don't think it's a biggie. I'm just baffled how can people be this worked up when they get the memo that spitting others in the face is not something that feels good, not even on the internet, and the best you can come uo with is that you like spitting others in the face, so fuck them. To be honest, I'd probably more worried if guys like you wouldn't have crawled out with these views, because based on my (and probably everyone else's, though servers differ) experience, it would be rather unbelievable if only one guy would support gg easy-ing, given how many idiots you meet in this game on average. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
2 weeks or a permanent ban is an absurd punishment for these kind of things, no? ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/hXChp/22148c72c6.png) The ranked promotion change is hilarious if they actually go through with it. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I'm still salty I haven't gotten rewards for teamwork, being friendly, and all that stuff. | ||
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ConanTroutman
Canada67 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:04 kongoline wrote: ^ and we are questioning the rules and penalties, its not like riot hasnt made retarded rules before I don't see why it matters, they could make it a permaban offense, you're given the option of doing it or not doing it and you know the consequence. It's not like an actual law where there can be a discussion had about whether the penalty is proportional or not, it's their game. | ||
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kongoline
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:15 Ansibled wrote: GG Easy is hardly saying anything Try not to invalidate your post right at the beginning. But here, I can do the same: saying nigger is hardly saying anything. What now? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:48 Volband wrote: Try not to invalidate your post right at the beginning. But here, I can do the same: saying nigger is hardly saying anything. What now? Lul at you even comparing those. "GG Easy" isn't even insulting or anything, it's just saying the match was easy(which it might have been). It's not "GG you were bad" or anything like that. A bigger problem are honestly premade botlanes who feed every single game and you get double report if you say anything, even if it's legitimate advice About the league change, I think that it's a good thing. It's pretty stupid that the entire promotion hinges on winning some Bo5 at that specific moment. You might get a very unlucky streak just at those times which delays it for much longer than necessary. IMO it should just promote you to the next rank when you receive enough LP to get there. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:50 Shikyo wrote: Lul at you even comparing those. "GG Easy" isn't even insulting or anything, it's just saying the match was easy(which it might have been). It's not "GG you were bad" or anything like that. A bigger problem are honestly premade botlanes who feed every single game and you get double report if you say anything, even if it's legitimate advice I did not compare them, just showed what an awesome argument the guy possessed. Not that you saying gg easy is not even insulting is any less mind-blowing, but I'm starting to see a trend here. For God's sake, at least say not THAT insulting to not look so dumb... You people are hardly trying here. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On May 24 2015 20:01 Scip wrote: Oh no, someone hurt my feelings by saying "gg easy", I want them to be prevented from playing the game anymore!! Actually I agree with this, but in a sense that all insults are pointless and no one should care. I am eastern europe, people here perceive insults as part of the daily talk. However, if we are going to punish insults then gg easy is as an insult as any other, this is what I am saying | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 24 2015 23:07 JimmiC wrote: I hope they ban for all the infighitng rage, the gg easy and trash talk between the teams I could care less about. But I hate having immature little kiddies raging at there teammates and tilting costing me games. Aha, but don't you see. Since you are untiltable (not being a kiddie, of course) your team only has 4 possible tiltess while the enemy teams has 5, thus your ELO will climb! Also, just to sum up. I think the rules are bad, I know they are Riot's rules and they can make them stupid, but mostly I think its stupid that they focused on this problem first, because I think its the least important problem facing them, even among the player discipline problems. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On May 24 2015 22:56 M2 wrote: Actually I agree with this, but in a sense that all insults are pointless and no one should care. I am eastern europe, people here perceive insults as part of the daily talk. However, if we are going to punish insults then gg easy is as an insult as any other, this is what I am saying There's a difference between swearing during a game and going to your opponent and calling him easy after you win. Tbh, this whole thing is based on the anonimous playerbase. You'll likely never see the guy again. Nobody will ever know besides him. So what do you care about keeping any decorum at all? The better people know someone, the more socially acceptable they behave towards that person. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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