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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 04:03:39
May 22 2015 03:54 GMT
#1021
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 03:57:29
May 22 2015 03:55 GMT
#1022
Trash talk is fun for me. However, I don't do it. Insulting my teammates (jokingly or otherwise) can be fun, but I don't do it.

I'd rather have a game that doesn't run the risk of either side having lame ass children-flamers spamming all chat (or team chat) and then eventually feeding or afk'ing. Ultimately, I want good games. If that means making sure people can't say insulting shit I can deal with that to play a good game of LoL. There are a million avenues to talk shit and only 1 to play LoL; I can deal with not insulting somebody to play a game I enjoy. If you think removing toxic players/chat from the game isn't a good idea than perhaps you need a new hobby since a good game of LoL should be what we all seek.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 04:05:29
May 22 2015 03:59 GMT
#1023
Pls funnel your shit onto your opponents, at least.

I also really hate the 'it's the Internet' argument and especially the 'everyone does it/people do *even worse*' arguments. Doesn't excuse anything.
XDG Mata
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 22 2015 05:00 GMT
#1024
On May 22 2015 09:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
if you didnt have the priviledge of playing pre-tribunal, the game was 50x more fun back then so I think that says a lot about how it has really tamed down the game and turned it into a more basic kid friendly game.

Between the extremely harsh chat policing, the doing away with multiple builds (hell, some champs like kat and shaco actually had THREE viable builds) among other things like making most champs homogenized. But the reporting system/tribunal definitely took a huge dump on the fun factor in this game. I would give a thousand dollars to go back in time and play 3 games without hearing the words REPORTED, TOXIC, and ABUSE 5000 times every game.


Conflating the Tribunal with balance/design decisions is probably the most hilarious thing to come out of this discussion.

It is sad that stuff like AD Katarina is gone, but I think you have some extremely rose-colored glasses when it comes to how the game was socially before the Tribunal.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 22 2015 05:12 GMT
#1025
Just come play in LAS, no moderation, every one calls each other faggots or insult their country and no1 gets banned it's great
it's all in spanish tho
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Kaethis
Profile Joined January 2015
Netherlands112 Posts
May 22 2015 06:37 GMT
#1026
I am always kinda dumbstruck when people argue that being a complete douchewad should be acceptable. wtf? I think Riot's whole crusade against toxicity is completely understandable; MOBA's or whatever you want to call them are like the cesspool of the internet and it reflects badly on an organisation that wants their game to be seen as a serious sport.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
May 22 2015 06:42 GMT
#1027
On May 22 2015 12:05 Gahlo wrote:
Bottom line is that Riot said it isn't going to tolerate homophobia, sexist, and racist nonsense. Don't like it? Tough, it isn't your decision, thems the rules. Either deal with it or don't play.

I'm having a hard time understanding why Riot gets flak even for this. Toxicity has been a curse for this game, hell, probably for this whole genre since its' genesis. The length some people allow themselves to go with their raging and verbal abuse is scary. I'm sick and tired of wishing cancer upon one another, or hoping he or she just dies in general, rather soon. When people feel they are entitled to say whatever the hell they want to others, there is a huge issue.

We are not talking about you sucks and fuck you mans, but homophobe, sexist and racist stuff. How on Earth can ANYONE say that Riot is mad for wanting to punish asap the people who bombard you with stuff like "i hope your nigger whore mother dies from cancer"?!?!?! Having a bad day, or - as Caida mentioned - it's the internet arguments are pretty slim for that kind of shit.

I can see three concerns regarding the future of the way Riot plans to evolve their punishment system:

1. Where will they draw the line for the automated bans? The system they are testing now seems rather safe, but if you want to catch the rest of the verbal abusers, you will need personal overview of the cases.
2. It obviously can't get out of hand by banning half of the LoL playerbase. Rage outbursts will happen, and no one should be cut down for losing his shit once in a while. I have faith in Riot that they realize this and don't lose control over it.
3. Some (or many) players will try to force their way on others, especially on their teammates by essentially blackmailing them to do what's right, or they will be reported. If you don't come to mid to push with us? Reported. Didn't give me blue? Reported. Etc. It will happen, but let's be real, it's been this way for a long time now. Some people always reached to the threat of report in their desperation, even for the most ridiculous things, like making an unsuccessful gank. This can not be stopped, but constantly reminding people, that this swift justice is to get the most toxic shits of the community, and not to force players to obey to their most vocal teammate is something that can ease this. Even if just one person out of the remaining 4 (or 9) is aware of what is reportable (for example, asking for/htreatening with a report is actually reportable) and what is not, it already helps a great deal.

I'm looking forward to this on EUNE, because I desperately need something to hold me back from calling out the biggest noobs who are almost always from the same country, spouting the same gibberish. I'd be much calmer if I'd knew I really can't call them out, haha!
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
May 22 2015 06:56 GMT
#1028
Anyone around gold/ have a smurf around there that wants to duo/support on NA?
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 22 2015 06:57 GMT
#1029
Whenever people QQ about tribunal actions I'm reminded of IMOperator's legendary rant about being banned from the entire Twitch.tv service for repeatedly violating their TOS by spamming account creation to harass someone "because it wasn't even that bad and he kept banning me to prevent me from harassing him" [paraphrased]
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TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 07:18:14
May 22 2015 07:03 GMT
#1030
On May 20 2015 20:39 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Man jungling is like herding cattle across the road.
No matter how hard you try they will ignore you and run into incoming vehicles.


Nothing to do with the last hundred pages, but herding cattle across a road is nothing like this. Unless you're simultaneously trying really hard and really really awful at what you're trying to do, I guess.

Generally cows (or smaller herd animals) will follow your lead and each other, and don't/can't put up much of a fight individually so large-scale straying isn't particularly common. I mean it can get messy if they break through a fence and spread out across a road before you get to the scene (although this is still easy enough to deal with, usually) but just leading them across a road is generally not hard, especially if you have the infrastructure in place to support such a move (typically farms will if it's a move they do often).
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 22 2015 07:14 GMT
#1031
wtf did i just read
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
May 22 2015 07:19 GMT
#1032
On May 22 2015 16:14 SagaZ wrote:
wtf did i just read


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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 08:08:13
May 22 2015 08:04 GMT
#1033
On May 22 2015 11:25 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:36 wei2coolman wrote:
I dunno if anyone plays pickup games of street basketball, but the level of trash talk there is worse than some of those chat log bans.


The argument that conversation A isn't offensive because conversation B is more offensive is pretty dumb.

They're both offensive.

If somebody calls somebody else a fag, they need to be punished for that, almost regardless of context. Even TL does that and TL is an environment that is basically designed for having frank discussions.

I'm not sure how somebody can have the standpoint of "gasp, I can't call strangers faggots anymore?!?!"

Like, come on, grow up.


should just call people phages
ketara is a fucking frozen mallet

also with regards to the street basketball comment ima be as racist to everyone as possible and say its filled with a lot of high testosterone black men instead of a bunch of pussies and manchilds who still run to mommy when someone calls them names
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 22 2015 08:10 GMT
#1034
On May 22 2015 17:04 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 11:25 Ketara wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:36 wei2coolman wrote:
I dunno if anyone plays pickup games of street basketball, but the level of trash talk there is worse than some of those chat log bans.


The argument that conversation A isn't offensive because conversation B is more offensive is pretty dumb.

They're both offensive.

If somebody calls somebody else a fag, they need to be punished for that, almost regardless of context. Even TL does that and TL is an environment that is basically designed for having frank discussions.

I'm not sure how somebody can have the standpoint of "gasp, I can't call strangers faggots anymore?!?!"

Like, come on, grow up.


should just call people phages
ketara is a fucking frozen mallet

also with regards to the street basketball comment ima be as racist to everyone as possible and say its filled with a lot of high testosterone black men instead of a bunch of pussies and manchilds who still run to mommy when someone calls them names

i dunno about high test, but yes.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-22 08:20:50
May 22 2015 08:16 GMT
#1035
I'm not 100% on this but I think I heard black men have higher average test than others
then again could just be the constant exposure to swag

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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 22 2015 08:28 GMT
#1036
Dang, I've had very little will to play. Every time i get into ranked queue, I end up just dodging because i realise halfway through I don't actually want to play.

My favourite champ (sej) is basically permaban since cinderhulk, I'm bored of shyv jungle, I am no good at quinn top or karma mid (which i find decently fun but get bitched at for playing), and I am out of practice with bot.

Can't wait for this meta to piss off so I can play Sej again.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 22 2015 08:34 GMT
#1037
When Morgana went permabanned in season 2 it went for over 6 months, even after she disappeared from competitive play. Have fun.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
May 22 2015 09:03 GMT
#1038
On May 22 2015 17:34 Alaric wrote:
When Morgana went permabanned in season 2 it went for over 6 months, even after she disappeared from competitive play. Have fun.

It's jungle. People will stop giving a shit when she isn't a top3 pick anymore.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
May 22 2015 09:11 GMT
#1039
@flaming,sometimes I call people dumb, their actions retarded and their builds mind-boggling and I haven't even gotten a chat restriction. If you get a ban you probably deserve it.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 22 2015 09:22 GMT
#1040
Only problem is people will stop being stupid and just stop using the "bad words" instead will just keep spamming with pings and saying unlucky or gj/well played every time someone does something stupid.
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