[Patch 5.9] Ashe Rework General Discussion - Page 52
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
I'd rather have a game that doesn't run the risk of either side having lame ass children-flamers spamming all chat (or team chat) and then eventually feeding or afk'ing. Ultimately, I want good games. If that means making sure people can't say insulting shit I can deal with that to play a good game of LoL. There are a million avenues to talk shit and only 1 to play LoL; I can deal with not insulting somebody to play a game I enjoy. If you think removing toxic players/chat from the game isn't a good idea than perhaps you need a new hobby since a good game of LoL should be what we all seek. | ||
Caiada
United States3052 Posts
I also really hate the 'it's the Internet' argument and especially the 'everyone does it/people do *even worse*' arguments. Doesn't excuse anything. | ||
Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On May 22 2015 09:21 VayneAuthority wrote: if you didnt have the priviledge of playing pre-tribunal, the game was 50x more fun back then so I think that says a lot about how it has really tamed down the game and turned it into a more basic kid friendly game. Between the extremely harsh chat policing, the doing away with multiple builds (hell, some champs like kat and shaco actually had THREE viable builds) among other things like making most champs homogenized. But the reporting system/tribunal definitely took a huge dump on the fun factor in this game. I would give a thousand dollars to go back in time and play 3 games without hearing the words REPORTED, TOXIC, and ABUSE 5000 times every game. Conflating the Tribunal with balance/design decisions is probably the most hilarious thing to come out of this discussion. It is sad that stuff like AD Katarina is gone, but I think you have some extremely rose-colored glasses when it comes to how the game was socially before the Tribunal. | ||
SagaZ
France3460 Posts
it's all in spanish tho | ||
Kaethis
Netherlands112 Posts
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On May 22 2015 12:05 Gahlo wrote: Bottom line is that Riot said it isn't going to tolerate homophobia, sexist, and racist nonsense. Don't like it? Tough, it isn't your decision, thems the rules. Either deal with it or don't play. I'm having a hard time understanding why Riot gets flak even for this. Toxicity has been a curse for this game, hell, probably for this whole genre since its' genesis. The length some people allow themselves to go with their raging and verbal abuse is scary. I'm sick and tired of wishing cancer upon one another, or hoping he or she just dies in general, rather soon. When people feel they are entitled to say whatever the hell they want to others, there is a huge issue. We are not talking about you sucks and fuck you mans, but homophobe, sexist and racist stuff. How on Earth can ANYONE say that Riot is mad for wanting to punish asap the people who bombard you with stuff like "i hope your nigger whore mother dies from cancer"?!?!?! Having a bad day, or - as Caida mentioned - it's the internet arguments are pretty slim for that kind of shit. I can see three concerns regarding the future of the way Riot plans to evolve their punishment system: 1. Where will they draw the line for the automated bans? The system they are testing now seems rather safe, but if you want to catch the rest of the verbal abusers, you will need personal overview of the cases. 2. It obviously can't get out of hand by banning half of the LoL playerbase. Rage outbursts will happen, and no one should be cut down for losing his shit once in a while. I have faith in Riot that they realize this and don't lose control over it. 3. Some (or many) players will try to force their way on others, especially on their teammates by essentially blackmailing them to do what's right, or they will be reported. If you don't come to mid to push with us? Reported. Didn't give me blue? Reported. Etc. It will happen, but let's be real, it's been this way for a long time now. Some people always reached to the threat of report in their desperation, even for the most ridiculous things, like making an unsuccessful gank. This can not be stopped, but constantly reminding people, that this swift justice is to get the most toxic shits of the community, and not to force players to obey to their most vocal teammate is something that can ease this. Even if just one person out of the remaining 4 (or 9) is aware of what is reportable (for example, asking for/htreatening with a report is actually reportable) and what is not, it already helps a great deal. I'm looking forward to this on EUNE, because I desperately need something to hold me back from calling out the biggest noobs who are almost always from the same country, spouting the same gibberish. I'd be much calmer if I'd knew I really can't call them out, haha! | ||
smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On May 20 2015 20:39 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Man jungling is like herding cattle across the road. No matter how hard you try they will ignore you and run into incoming vehicles. Nothing to do with the last hundred pages, but herding cattle across a road is nothing like this. Unless you're simultaneously trying really hard and really really awful at what you're trying to do, I guess. Generally cows (or smaller herd animals) will follow your lead and each other, and don't/can't put up much of a fight individually so large-scale straying isn't particularly common. I mean it can get messy if they break through a fence and spread out across a road before you get to the scene (although this is still easy enough to deal with, usually) but just leading them across a road is generally not hard, especially if you have the infrastructure in place to support such a move (typically farms will if it's a move they do often). | ||
SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On May 22 2015 16:14 SagaZ wrote: wtf did i just read + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 22 2015 11:25 Ketara wrote: The argument that conversation A isn't offensive because conversation B is more offensive is pretty dumb. They're both offensive. If somebody calls somebody else a fag, they need to be punished for that, almost regardless of context. Even TL does that and TL is an environment that is basically designed for having frank discussions. I'm not sure how somebody can have the standpoint of "gasp, I can't call strangers faggots anymore?!?!" Like, come on, grow up. should just call people phages ketara is a fucking frozen mallet also with regards to the street basketball comment ima be as racist to everyone as possible and say its filled with a lot of high testosterone black men instead of a bunch of pussies and manchilds who still run to mommy when someone calls them names | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 22 2015 17:04 Slayer91 wrote: should just call people phages ketara is a fucking frozen mallet also with regards to the street basketball comment ima be as racist to everyone as possible and say its filled with a lot of high testosterone black men instead of a bunch of pussies and manchilds who still run to mommy when someone calls them names i dunno about high test, but yes. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
then again could just be the constant exposure to swag User was warned for this post | ||
57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
My favourite champ (sej) is basically permaban since cinderhulk, I'm bored of shyv jungle, I am no good at quinn top or karma mid (which i find decently fun but get bitched at for playing), and I am out of practice with bot. Can't wait for this meta to piss off so I can play Sej again. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35153 Posts
On May 22 2015 17:34 Alaric wrote: When Morgana went permabanned in season 2 it went for over 6 months, even after she disappeared from competitive play. Have fun. It's jungle. People will stop giving a shit when she isn't a top3 pick anymore. | ||
Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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