just cc her guys ez counter isn't an excuse anymore
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
just cc her guys ez counter isn't an excuse anymore | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 28 2015 16:11 wei2coolman wrote: problem is, even if eve gets kills early on, she just doesn't really snowball much when it comes to team fights during midgame. So you absolutely have to force some weird long ass laning phase while keep getting picks. That is possible. From my experience Eve is really frightening if I am carrying from ADC and less so if I am carrying from Top. And its fairly extreme. IMO this is just the Eve problem. To balance stealth, she needs to lose every even fight, and badly. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
saw this might be interesting scip qualifies as a carry lol most people seem to be tacticians or warriors looks like warrior is just a tactician who doesnt ward looking at you wheelking/losleb | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Warrior + warding = Tactician Do nothing but ward (don't farm, don't fight, pick the same champions in streaks) = Supporter, so there probably aren't many of these + Show Spoiler + It already seemed dumb reading the descriptions, but their graphs showcase it even more. Do they even say what they call "actions core"? Kill participation or something? Also "% focus on objectives" but no explanation. I'm sure unless I'm getting stomped I put a lot more emphasis on dragon than 30% of the time (I even do it too much when in soloQ you could ride a won fight to get one more tower by toying with respawn timers). They also use the "first baron death" or something to track "you kill the baron first % of the time", not taking in consideration the games where it isn't killed at all. Either they should discard these, or they should make their labels clearer about that. "Farming" is skewed because they just look at a cs number. I jungle and support a lot, so mine's obviously a lot reduced for example. They do the same "jungle monsters killed per game" rather than "per jungle game/outside of jungle games". They use "% of the map visible" during games. If you get stomped or if you stomp, just the life expectancy of your towers do a lot on that number. You're also reliant on your teams during losing or long games to have vision since your own wards only give a maximum amount of vision at a time. Versatility gives me 80% when I pretty much only play one support and one (maybe 2) mids, considering I rarely get mid. I never play AD pretty much. I don't think I regularly play more than 10-12 champions. Role versatility gives you a better score if you switch between 2 roles every game than if you play all 5 in streaks. Same with the champion pool. Do people really fall for that garbage because they see graphs? | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
i dont' know if versatility outside game should effect how you play inside a game zz yeah progs graph is just wards and nothing else its like playing 4v5 with maphacks theres useful data there i just don't like the way it's handled alaric i play jungle and support a lot and i have way above average farming maybe the stat isn't so bad after all hue | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I actually think this one is pretty good for giving stats that are useful (ish): http://bluebaron.net/ | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On March 29 2015 01:16 Osmoses wrote: According to Bluebaron I should be in challenger by now. elo hell confirmed | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 29 2015 02:16 Fusilero wrote: Idk how to interpret this stuff but apparently my vision scores are really high so I'm probably British mata. Stuck in lpl hell? | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'm really having trouble with the changes, since maxing E means your mana pool doesn't do much (and it's still a very weak ability against tanky champions), maxing W means you don't do anything at all. Support Naut can "rush" Glory and doesn't need to use his abilities as much in lane so he can conserve mana, but otherwise it doesn't matter if I get a bit more damage than before thanks to earlier second E in a gank/fight, his mana issues are way too high (since he relies on E and not W to clear he also spends a lot of mana, you can't easily clear a camp or two then go and fight, nor go back to jungling after a fight either). | ||
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