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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 08:37:57
March 28 2015 08:37 GMT
#261
Finally Katarina picked in pros so everyone can see what bullshit she is

just cc her guys ez counter isn't an excuse anymore
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 28 2015 09:02 GMT
#262
On March 28 2015 16:11 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 16:06 cLutZ wrote:
IMO Eve is balanced, at least for soloQ. You need to take into account the extra cost of Pink wards, that pinks are visible, and that deep warding at camps is harder in uncoordinated play.

problem is, even if eve gets kills early on, she just doesn't really snowball much when it comes to team fights during midgame. So you absolutely have to force some weird long ass laning phase while keep getting picks.


That is possible. From my experience Eve is really frightening if I am carrying from ADC and less so if I am carrying from Top. And its fairly extreme. IMO this is just the Eve problem. To balance stealth, she needs to lose every even fight, and badly.
Freeeeeeedom
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 13:18:33
March 28 2015 13:16 GMT
#263
http://school.egg-one.com/lolprofiler
saw this might be interesting
scip qualifies as a carry lol
most people seem to be tacticians or warriors

looks like warrior is just a tactician who doesnt ward
looking at you wheelking/losleb
aka Teutonica
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
March 28 2015 13:24 GMT
#264
Real warriors don't need no wards.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 28 2015 13:38 GMT
#265
Adventurer + farming/action score = Warrior
Warrior + warding = Tactician
Do nothing but ward (don't farm, don't fight, pick the same champions in streaks) = Supporter, so there probably aren't many of these

+ Show Spoiler +
It already seemed dumb reading the descriptions, but their graphs showcase it even more. Do they even say what they call "actions core"? Kill participation or something?
Also "% focus on objectives" but no explanation. I'm sure unless I'm getting stomped I put a lot more emphasis on dragon than 30% of the time (I even do it too much when in soloQ you could ride a won fight to get one more tower by toying with respawn timers).
They also use the "first baron death" or something to track "you kill the baron first % of the time", not taking in consideration the games where it isn't killed at all. Either they should discard these, or they should make their labels clearer about that.
"Farming" is skewed because they just look at a cs number. I jungle and support a lot, so mine's obviously a lot reduced for example. They do the same "jungle monsters killed per game" rather than "per jungle game/outside of jungle games".

They use "% of the map visible" during games. If you get stomped or if you stomp, just the life expectancy of your towers do a lot on that number. You're also reliant on your teams during losing or long games to have vision since your own wards only give a maximum amount of vision at a time.
Versatility gives me 80% when I pretty much only play one support and one (maybe 2) mids, considering I rarely get mid. I never play AD pretty much. I don't think I regularly play more than 10-12 champions.
Role versatility gives you a better score if you switch between 2 roles every game than if you play all 5 in streaks. Same with the champion pool.


Do people really fall for that garbage because they see graphs?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
March 28 2015 13:44 GMT
#266
I'm one of those "do nothing else but ward" people.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 14:06:28
March 28 2015 14:03 GMT
#267
yeah the stats arent great for a number of reasons thats why nearly everyone is in tactician or warrior unless you play only 2 champs then you are a carry

i dont' know if versatility outside game should effect how you play inside a game zz

yeah progs graph is just wards and nothing else
its like playing 4v5 with maphacks

theres useful data there i just don't like the way it's handled

alaric i play jungle and support a lot and i have way above average farming maybe the stat isn't so bad after all hue
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 28 2015 14:07 GMT
#268
You also play only relic shield champs and you actually use it so you get higher cs scores than most support players.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
March 28 2015 14:10 GMT
#269
i also steal cs when they think i have a stack for the cannon or nobody is defending bot
aka Teutonica
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 28 2015 14:19 GMT
#270
So you must be the reason why I always look at my support's stacks instead of just following pings for last hits.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
March 28 2015 15:54 GMT
#271
Definitely Warrior lol. As jungler and support I do actually ward a bit, but as solo's I always just forget.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 28 2015 16:01 GMT
#272
Yeah that site seems dumb.

I actually think this one is pretty good for giving stats that are useful (ish): http://bluebaron.net/
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 28 2015 16:16 GMT
#273
According to Bluebaron I should be in challenger by now.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 28 2015 16:21 GMT
#274
Hence the ish lol.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
March 28 2015 16:28 GMT
#275
On March 29 2015 01:16 Osmoses wrote:
According to Bluebaron I should be in challenger by now.


elo hell confirmed
aka Teutonica
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
March 28 2015 17:10 GMT
#276
According to schoolegg I score challenger ratings and according to bluebaron I am a really good adc. LOL
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 28 2015 17:16 GMT
#277
Idk how to interpret this stuff but apparently my vision scores are really high so I'm probably British mata.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 28 2015 17:30 GMT
#278
On March 29 2015 02:16 Fusilero wrote:
Idk how to interpret this stuff but apparently my vision scores are really high so I'm probably British mata.

Stuck in lpl hell?
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 28 2015 17:32 GMT
#279
Well I do duo queue with a dumb Tristana main so I'm on the first step to being literally mata.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 28 2015 19:42 GMT
#280
Nautilus feels so miserable when he doesn't get ahead (and able to itemise Glory over resistances), what with the shield not being worth maxing (only gives HP) and Riptide driving his mana pool to the ground faster than a fed Vayne explodes a squishy.

I'm really having trouble with the changes, since maxing E means your mana pool doesn't do much (and it's still a very weak ability against tanky champions), maxing W means you don't do anything at all.
Support Naut can "rush" Glory and doesn't need to use his abilities as much in lane so he can conserve mana, but otherwise it doesn't matter if I get a bit more damage than before thanks to earlier second E in a gank/fight, his mana issues are way too high (since he relies on E and not W to clear he also spends a lot of mana, you can't easily clear a camp or two then go and fight, nor go back to jungling after a fight either).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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