EPTSo what about that Leblanc?
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
So what about that Leblanc? | ||
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DNeon
Australia203 Posts
On the other hand, I'm going to say something crazy...I supported with an ADC Zilean once, was a random I'd never met, but he did reasonably well as a utility carry with a free GA/near infinite kiting and old Corki style lane pressure. Now a range reduction is massive for this, but with the added CC and lower CDs, maybe? I dunno, just a crazy though, his base stats are still shit. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Meanwhile the duration gets halved and the speed buff receives no compensation. This patch is utter garbage, with almost nothing good coming out of it. I can't talk about J4/Sion nerfs, there's the knock-up bug fixed for Xin, but apart from that it's either gutting stuff for the sake of gutting it (reminding us of their fad-based design in passing, mobility earlier, then knock-ups everywhere, now making everything a skillshot, etc.) or ignoring the bullshit that would need to be addressed (like Ahri's stupid buffs the previous patch that were obviously grossly overtuned). What's the point of that fast patch cycle if they get nothing out of it? | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
Buffs like that would never make bad champions great, or even good, but they could make them less bad. I feel like it would be a big win if instead of bad champs winning 42% of the time they won 46% of the time. That's still enough to be bad and discourage play riot doesn't like, but its not enough to inspire the feeling of hopelessness if you happen to like the aesthetic of a bad champ. TLDR: with frequent patches they should be making large numbers of trivially small changes | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On February 25 2015 06:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: League of Skillshots is fucking stupid as long as half the playerbase is playing on 100+ ping./ How else are they going to add Strategic Diversity, Meaningful Choices, Clarity, and Counterplay besides adding Skill to the game with Skillshots? Ever skillshot can be dodged = counterplay You have to choose how to aim it = meaningful choices Skillshot particles can be dodged instead of following you through your flash/tp/lantern = clarity More champions with more skillshots to choose from = strategic diversity | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Was hoping to see some ad changes but guess not rip. | ||
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On February 25 2015 08:07 Slusher wrote: I'm pretty sure it's been removed from DOminion for a while now, and that you get revive via the trinket slot Oh that's right, I completely forgot about that. | ||
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DNeon
Australia203 Posts
On February 25 2015 08:12 nafta wrote: For a rework morde didn't get a whole lot of changes that actually do anything. Was hoping to see some ad changes but guess not rip. These were just the QoL buffs that they had attached, the passive/scaling changes haven't shipped (aside from the R). | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
As for the new champ, it's interesting because I would argue the ability to bring your whole team over a wall has so many more uses for defensive purposes than offensive. Utility of Bard is thresh level, actual power level remains to be seen. If he's anything like thresh though, damage isn't the selling point. | ||
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derc
France126 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 25 2015 08:12 nafta wrote: For a rework morde didn't get a whole lot of changes that actually do anything. Was hoping to see some ad changes but guess not rip. they trash binned the original changes because they realised they sucked balls, somehow veigar went live.. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 25 2015 08:28 cLutZ wrote: The thing that is good about Bard when compared to thresh is the wall lets enemies through as well, which is the balance problem of lantern (all reward, no risk). The best part about him is his ult(by far).All the funny montages when he saves 5 people from a malph ult and shit.I can't wait to see that. | ||
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Nohiko
71 Posts
On February 25 2015 06:50 Osmoses wrote: Really looking forward to seeing new Zil and Veigar. On a related note, I really hope they go easy on the Sion E on pbe, I'm already chugging pots like a madman, and even hitting every single E is not exactly a guarantee of a won lane if the opponent buys pots themselves. Yeah, Sion's laning is definitely going to feel this nerf. The mana cost reduction on Q/W will balance it out a bit but you spend so much time spaming E that those later levels are gonna start chunking out your mana. I already start Dring (or buy first-back) against some matchups, so I'm thinking I'll start getting one pretty much every game if I can afford to not get tanky stats. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 25 2015 08:40 nafta wrote: The best part about him is his ult(by far).All the funny montages when he saves 5 people from a malph ult and shit.I can't wait to see that. Well I was just saying from a frustration and long term balance POV. His ult is a powerful ult, like Shockwave, Unstoppable Force, Crescendo, Requiem, etc. The only thing that is really worrying in his kit is the weird roaming passive, which is going to mean his SoloQ and Pro playstyles will be separated pretty significantly. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Riot didn't just Olaf Kassadin, they gave him the S1 Eve treatment. maybe if Kassadin had his pre-nerf Q/W/E this change might be okay. But now why the fuck would you play Kassadin when you can play Nid: farm better, poker better, sustain better, have more mobility, have resets on that mobility, AND have your mobility cost no mana. Nid also probably does more melee damage than Kassadin too. It's also hilarious that Riot's trying to justify the nerf by saying the mana cost reduction is supposed to make up for it. It costs something like 3 times as much mana with new ult to cover the same amount of ground as old ult plus it takes longer lol It's also really stupid that they always try to "compensate" for buffs with nerfs elsewhere when the champion could just do with a straight up buff. Specifically, Morde. They lower his health costs to help him out, then chop his health regen by more than half...also lowered his W damage too...plus his ult ghost does less damage until you hit level 16. He'd probably be better off if they didn't change anything. Actually, he most definitely would've been better off if Riot did nothing. These "compensation buffs" for losing DFG look more like nerfs than anything. | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
On February 25 2015 09:10 cLutZ wrote: Well I was just saying from a frustration and long term balance POV. His ult is a powerful ult, like Shockwave, Unstoppable Force, Crescendo, Requiem, etc. The only thing that is really worrying in his kit is the weird roaming passive, which is going to mean his SoloQ and Pro playstyles will be separated pretty significantly. I can already see all those poor soloq adc's stuck in 1v2 lanes while bard drops healing packages for mid and top XD | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
guess that ghostcrawler hire is really working out at least Bard looks pretty cool | ||
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