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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 01 2015 02:01 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 00:29 Redox wrote:
Adc without a job in EU then would be Forgiven, MrRallez, Steelback, Pinoy, (Jesiz). Quite a lot.
Really wonder if Vardags can keep his job. Pretty sure UoL isn't going to change friendship and magic if friendship and magic got them within a game of the spring split. Also, what is with LL's unconditional hate for Vardags? I get it, he's a bottom-tier pro ADC, but some of you guys just irrationally shit on him no matter what.
Because he's awful, lol.
After only adc who played in NA finals outside of Sneaky and WildTurtle got relegated, Vardags is literally better than Adryh and that's it.
I don't think that you can call it unconditional hate when some of people here try to cheer for EU but are forced to watch Steeelback and Vardags being #1 and #2.
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Also, what is with LL's unconditional hate for Vardags? I get it, he's a bottom-tier pro ADC, but some of you guys just irrationally shit on him no matter what.
Watching him play, he seems to be a lackluster adc in comparison to what is around him. Many of the EU teams actually have pretty good ADC this season, even MYM had Rallez. You saw the list of free agents for the position, I can see Forgiven, MrRallez replacing him because they are much better, even Steelback and Pinoy would be an upgrade imo. He gets caught out and his laning isn't that good, he's just not a carry, a worse version of Steelback if you will.
I think he's LCS caliber, but he's bottom LCS level. And unfortunately there's a lot of players currently free who could take his spot.
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UoL were the 4th best team in Spring, doesn't matter if they finished second. They should replace their ADC so they're actually a good team.
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On May 01 2015 02:01 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 00:29 Redox wrote:
Adc without a job in EU then would be Forgiven, MrRallez, Steelback, Pinoy, (Jesiz). Quite a lot.
Really wonder if Vardags can keep his job. Pretty sure UoL isn't going to change friendship and magic if friendship and magic got them within a game of the spring split. Also, what is with LL's unconditional hate for Vardags? I get it, he's a bottom-tier pro ADC, but some of you guys just irrationally shit on him no matter what.
When you're like the 8-10th best player in your region on a team that's top 2 in your region, it's gunna be pretty obvious who's gunna get shitted on by the community and fans of that team.
On May 01 2015 02:18 Ansibled wrote:
UoL were the 4th best team in Spring, doesn't matter if they finished second. They should replace their ADC so they're actually a good team.
Maybe h2k and sk should have made it to finals then :3
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
I really don't want to create new threads when moves ain't confirmed by official sources.
But Altec is almost in MSI TDK.
Source
The suffering of Altec and Koreans continue.
But I assume that Pobelter is going to follow him soon.
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On May 01 2015 02:01 BrownBear wrote:
Also, what is with LL's unconditional hate for Vardags? I get it, he's a bottom-tier pro ADC, but some of you guys just irrationally shit on him no matter what.
Prog shit on him with Taric. Prog is D5. So is Vardags. Meanwhile Freeze is in Youngbuck prison, Forgiven is in nRated prison and Tabzz couldn't find a team for Spring split.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Or perhaps prog is LCS finals worthy taric and EU orgs just haven't scouted him yet :O
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I want youngbuck to register here :/
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I like how suggesting forgiven would be an upgrade to vardags is hate lol
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
More rumours for tonight, before I'm running to guide group of people in city.
Gambit will go either with Jebus/Edward or Krislund/Noxiak lane for Summer plus Noxiak is currently trying out with GIANTS! after declining Elements offer, lomo.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Felix has reportedly declined offers to the teams the like of Elements and is currently on trial with GIANTS! Gaming.
I literally can't even
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I guess he didn't want to be Froggen's bitch.
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Fnatic with Rekkles is the best Western team in terms of talent, right?
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On May 01 2015 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
Fnatic with Rekkles is the best Western team in terms of talent, right?
what exactly does this mean?
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On May 01 2015 03:51 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 03:46 Ansibled wrote:
Fnatic with Rekkles is the best Western team in terms of talent, right? what exactly does this mean?
It means POTENTIAL
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I'm trying to disagree but can't. I'd like to believe Elements could be better but pls don't quote me until end of the season :>
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Well there's a difference between individual skill and team strength, right? Like last year C9 were a better team than TSM but TSM were more talented individually.
I just mean is Fnatic the most individually skilled team in the West?
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TSM weren't more talented, they just brought in better players to get better than C9 lol.
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On May 01 2015 03:52 Ansibled wrote:
Well there's a difference between individual skill and team strength, right? C9 were a better team than TSM but TSM were more talented.
Not really, TSM were both more talented and a better team. If you go back and watch those games TSM won most of them through a strong P/B and very good macro play. Game 3 was the only game where C9's really showed their ability to play from behind that they're known for, but TSM outplayed them in the laneswap so it didn't matter. Also TSM is still the most talented team in the west, Lubo is massively better than Yellow and Santorin is significantly better+higher ceiling than Reignover. Bjerg is better than Febi atm too, though their ceilings are both pretty gigantic. Sure, Huni's got a higher ceiling than Dyrus, but I'm not even sure he's that much better atm, as he has pretty glaring hero pool weaknesses. Rekkles doesn't outclass Turtle in any meaningful way. They're both Tier 2 evolutions of Puszu, yet to hit level 60 and evolve into Deft.
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Well it sounded like "talent" was something measurable or quantifiable, personally I can only compare in terms of achievements, so the question would probably be if Rekkles was in fnc now would it increase the chance of fnc beating tsm in a bo5? Probably not by a lot.
e: seems like former Roccat Ducky is now Origen's coach
http://origen.gg/2015/04/introducing-origens-coach/
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