OK so I don't really believe in Hai thing, GMB is in unfortunate position because of health apparently, MYM was a mess since week 1 and that leaves us with TL and CST being the only ones who decided to try some new players

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

February 17 2015 16:16 GMT

#24

Oh this is a pretty good idea for a thread.

Although Jesiz might not be the best midlaner, I still think he's better than Mancloud and I don't think he's the main problem with Coast.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 17 2015 16:18 GMT

#25

No idea why they want to replace Jesiz with Mancloud, lol.

Lost My Will To Live

Botswana601 Posts

February 17 2015 16:23 GMT

#26

On February 18 2015 01:18 739 wrote:
No idea why they want to replace Jesiz with Mancloud, lol.

Jesiz is pretty bad, but Mancloud imo is washed up. Not sure this is an upgrade.

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

February 17 2015 16:26 GMT

#27

Might be something to do with attitude? Impaler publicly complained about Jesiz afaik.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

February 17 2015 16:27 GMT

#28

Apparently Mancloud shotcalls, so maybe that's the reason.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

February 17 2015 16:28 GMT

#29

On February 18 2015 01:26 AlterKot wrote:
Might be something to do with attitude? Impaler publicly complained about Jesiz afaik.

What? I heard the only reason Jesiz is on CST is that Impaler insisted on him coming with. Anyway if anyone needs a bench of coast it's Mashme. How is he even on a pro team lol

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

February 17 2015 16:47 GMT

#30

Those are two seperate things - Impaler first stated that he didn't want to go to NA alone and insisted on bringing a fellow eurocancer, and then said that for whatever reason thinks are going sour, Jesiz doesn't want to duo with him etc.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 17 2015 16:57 GMT

#31

http://teamfusion.gg/mimo-arrived/

MiMo (whoever he is) gonna replace NintendudeX.

oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

February 17 2015 17:21 GMT

#32

To be fair, nothing is going to be worse than Jesiz.
Coast need carry, mancloud can carry games. He might not be that season 3 God, but I'm pretty sure, that Coast isn't going to lose much with picking him, especially, considering that there are no better midlaners you can get for free.

It's probably even worse with free adcs though, that they can't find replacement for DMM.
Coast are in do-or-die position anyway, if they were 6-2 and not 1-7 like they had to be, even then, Jesiz is hell of underwhelming.

Lost My Will To Live

Botswana601 Posts

February 17 2015 17:28 GMT

#33

I think it's a positive change that's headed in the right direction. Coast needs some direction and some decent shotcalling, because they usually can grab a lead (typically thx to Cris/Impaler). But man, that shotcalling is fucking horrendous, and they have the two worst AD/Mid players in the entire LCS. Mash is basically trash, and Jesiz plays like a coward with no balls.

TitusVI

Germany8319 Posts

February 17 2015 17:46 GMT

#34

Jesiz is completly destroyed from a in-game-psychological point of view. When u watch his facecam last game you see him suffering. Jesiz should probably make a cut and spend a few weeks/months without league.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

February 17 2015 17:49 GMT

#35

I don't believe even in my wildest fanboying for mancloud that he will turn around coast. But it's a good start if he works well with the team. It's not like coast are making the wrong calls (okay pretty often it is) as much as coast lacks the teamfighting capabilities to actually execute them so if mancloud can teamfight better on leblenk they'll probably be better off already. I don't think laning is an issue, even during the trainwreck of XDG mancloud could at least farm out evenly with everyone but bjergsen so probably won't be a downgrade in terms of laning from jesiz lmao.

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

February 17 2015 17:52 GMT

#36

Actually teams almost always perform better first week after the roster change, the question is whether Mancloud didn't completely lose his will to live and whether that one good week would help their confidence enough.

Numy

South Africa35471 Posts

February 17 2015 18:15 GMT

#37

This must be some kind of attitude thing. Don't see a reason why they would replace Jesiz before Mashme. Sure Jesiz doesn't blow your mind with his gameplay but he doesn't do any huge errors. Mashme randomly getting caught trying to solo steal blue buff vs CLG was a huge misplay. On average he's just a far bigger liability than Jesiz.

oo_Wonderful_oo

The land of freedom23126 Posts

February 17 2015 18:26 GMT

#38

On February 18 2015 03:15 Numy wrote:
This must be some kind of attitude thing. Don't see a reason why they would replace Jesiz before Mashme. Sure Jesiz doesn't blow your mind with his gameplay but he doesn't do any huge errors. Mashme randomly getting caught trying to solo steal blue buff vs CLG was a huge misplay. On average he's just a far bigger liability than Jesiz.

Because outside of Nien there are no adcs to actually poach.