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As of page 44, no more placement QQ in GD.

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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 15 2015 16:13 GMT
#121
On January 15 2015 08:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 08:33 Nos- wrote:
rek'sai nerfed, don't know if gnar's boomerang is his problem but ok i guess that's something, and sona nerf seems a little random


Gnar's real problem is that he's just simply too legit in every phase of game.
And it's probably only real way to go with him, nerf boomerang's cd, at least opens more champions who can stand against him early.

Sona is just too dominant as laner right now and Riot won't nerf heals because they were trying to force Sona to be healer, lol.

I would say the biggest issue about gnar is a pure design one. His ultimate being not 100% controllable means they have to compensate by making it overly strong or by making mini form overly strong. There's no real way for them to create a balanced dynamic with him due to the way he is made. It's an interesting idea but I'm sure the balance team is hating the design for the champ. They'll get all the flak when it's not their fault. He will either be overturned or undertuned. There's no real middle ground.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 15 2015 16:14 GMT
#122
On January 16 2015 00:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 00:00 Gahlo wrote:
Kind of a silly time to announce retirement, if you ask me.


Not really, Fzzf is extremely popular streamer and technically he achieved everything he could in life of Chinese League of Legends player.
Yes, EDG probably lost their best chance on getting 2nd at Worlds last time but still.

Only Clearlove left from vintage WE, damn ;/

Where are new photoshoots for LCS teams, i'm ready to cringe.

Based on that one BO5 mouse seemed really good, honestly this new EDG might be better but it's way too early to call that.
Glorious SEA doto
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 15 2015 16:30 GMT
#123
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2015 16:51 GMT
#124
On January 16 2015 01:14 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 00:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 16 2015 00:00 Gahlo wrote:
Kind of a silly time to announce retirement, if you ask me.


Not really, Fzzf is extremely popular streamer and technically he achieved everything he could in life of Chinese League of Legends player.
Yes, EDG probably lost their best chance on getting 2nd at Worlds last time but still.

Only Clearlove left from vintage WE, damn ;/

Where are new photoshoots for LCS teams, i'm ready to cringe.

Based on that one BO5 mouse seemed really good, honestly this new EDG might be better but it's way too early to call that.


I don't think that Mouse will be a problem at all, EDG should still 2-0 King convincingly tomorrow.

But seriously, if anyone told me 2 years ago that Clearlove is going to be last man standing from vintage WE, uhoh.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 15 2015 17:27 GMT
#125
Just thought about it, but the removal of DFG is a huge nerf to Malphite.
liftlift > tsm
droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
January 15 2015 17:29 GMT
#126
On January 16 2015 01:30 krndandaman wrote:
im patiently awaiting the day riot implements a way for people to see whether the players they reported get banned or not.

I honestly don't see why they haven't yet

I think the main reason was that tribunal was really slow, so you wouldn't see if they got banned until a month (or some other stupid length of time) later.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 15 2015 17:33 GMT
#127
I think it's probably more along the lines of "noneyabusiness" what happens to other players. Letting players "track" if their reports lead to bans would just be an unnecessary source for irritation. Better for everyone involved to just move on.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 15 2015 17:43 GMT
#128
On January 16 2015 01:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 08:38 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 15 2015 08:33 Nos- wrote:
rek'sai nerfed, don't know if gnar's boomerang is his problem but ok i guess that's something, and sona nerf seems a little random


Gnar's real problem is that he's just simply too legit in every phase of game.
And it's probably only real way to go with him, nerf boomerang's cd, at least opens more champions who can stand against him early.

Sona is just too dominant as laner right now and Riot won't nerf heals because they were trying to force Sona to be healer, lol.

I would say the biggest issue about gnar is a pure design one. His ultimate being not 100% controllable means they have to compensate by making it overly strong or by making mini form overly strong. There's no real way for them to create a balanced dynamic with him due to the way he is made. It's an interesting idea but I'm sure the balance team is hating the design for the champ. They'll get all the flak when it's not their fault. He will either be overturned or undertuned. There's no real middle ground.

I agree, particularly for team fighting. If they made him basically a dedicated splitpusher his transform would basically be a threat to all in. The issue is that this will be unfun for the gnar as he will basically have no opportunities to surprise people.

Or they can give his transform the shyvana treatment, but she has many problems as well.
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 17:50:16
January 15 2015 17:48 GMT
#129
Yip if they make his mini form too strong it means they have to make his ulti terrible or he will just be too strong. If they do the inverse then people will complain he's too weak because they have to rely on something that can't be completely controlled. Honestly he's a bigger nightmare than any of the other transforming champs due to the randomness. Maybe if they gave him more tools to dictate when to ulti it'll help.

I doubt they'll give him the shyv ulti since that will remove his whole selling point. They'll prob just gut him eventually if they can't figure out some genius solution to the problem.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 15 2015 17:51 GMT
#130
Shyv ulti would be awesome. Weaken his mini form and make it self-cast for 100% rage for Mega form. Probably would be broken as hell.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 15 2015 18:02 GMT
#131
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
January 15 2015 18:18 GMT
#132
Sona nerf wasn't really warranted. The only place she was oppressive was aram and maps where her Mana costs didn't matter.

I'm pretty sad about jayce, mid Ezreal already took away much of his popularity.

And yay post counts =D
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 15 2015 18:21 GMT
#133
On January 16 2015 03:18 Lmui wrote:
Sona nerf wasn't really warranted. The only place she was oppressive was aram and maps where her Mana costs didn't matter.

I'm pretty sad about jayce, mid Ezreal already took away much of his popularity.

And yay post counts =D


Sona has problems with mana only in one case - if you just spam heals without thinking about them.
Q costs almost nothing in comparison and it's freaking oppressive if you asked me, when Sona stays behind whole creep wave and press Q which hits you because of priorities without counterplay.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 18:36:20
January 15 2015 18:35 GMT
#134
Sorry to say, but Sona nerfs are always warranted. She has never been in a "good" place. Basically, her ult and passive make it very difficult for Riot to get her in a place they actually like. Until they change her passive or change her ult, they won't have enough freedom to mess with her numbers in a better way.

The other method would be to get rid of her healing entirely because that's what causes the biggest issue. In that case, she is in trouble of losing her identity, but it would give freedom to give her more interesting spells/strategy
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 15 2015 18:45 GMT
#135
Make her heal a skillshot that enemies can intercept, boom, balanced. Riot, hire this man
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2015 18:47 GMT
#136
Have name changes always been possible for 13k IP? I thought you can only namechange for RP.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 15 2015 18:48 GMT
#137
They changed that in the middle of S4 I think.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 15 2015 18:52 GMT
#138
On January 16 2015 03:48 AlterKot wrote:
They changed that in the middle of S4 I think.


Heh, cool shit. I didn't know that, finally I can spend my 50k IP on anything other than new champions.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 18:56:43
January 15 2015 18:55 GMT
#139
On January 16 2015 03:47 AsnSensation wrote:
Have name changes always been possible for 13k IP? I thought you can only namechange for RP.


That's definitely new. I see it as well.

oh? Guess I'm wrong.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 15 2015 19:00 GMT
#140
On January 16 2015 03:35 ketchup wrote:
Sorry to say, but Sona nerfs are always warranted. She has never been in a "good" place. Basically, her ult and passive make it very difficult for Riot to get her in a place they actually like. Until they change her passive or change her ult, they won't have enough freedom to mess with her numbers in a better way.

The other method would be to get rid of her healing entirely because that's what causes the biggest issue. In that case, she is in trouble of losing her identity, but it would give freedom to give her more interesting spells/strategy

What's wrong with her ult?
Freeeeeeedom
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