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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 02:11 GMT
#421
It's gold lead in first 10 minuets.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 16 2014 02:15 GMT
#422
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
December 16 2014 02:18 GMT
#423
I am fine with the way the Khalista ult works. I think if she's picked up at the pro level it will open up some insane new comps and allow some of the lower mobility tanks get more play.
Moar banelings less qq
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 16 2014 02:21 GMT
#424
On December 16 2014 11:18 IamPryda wrote:
I am fine with the way the Khalista ult works. I think if she's picked up at the pro level it will open up some insane new comps and allow some of the lower mobility tanks get more play.

And the Yasturbation combo.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 02:26 GMT
#425
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 16 2014 02:29 GMT
#426
On December 16 2014 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....


Reverse causation or endogeneity (you're not going to suggest that good at 10 minutes is exogenous are you?) with is not "correlation vs causation" but no I just don't understand the point of a graph that says the sky is blue.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 02:33:30
December 16 2014 02:33 GMT
#427
On December 16 2014 11:29 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....


Reverse causation or endogeneity (you're not going to suggest that good at 10 minutes is exogenous are you?) with is not "correlation vs causation" but no I just don't understand the point of a graph that says the sky is blue.

I mean I think seeing the relative win % is actually kind of neat. Obviously the more you area ahead the more likely you are to win, but this puts some actual numbers on that.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 02:38 GMT
#428
On December 16 2014 11:29 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....


Reverse causation or endogeneity (you're not going to suggest that good at 10 minutes is exogenous are you?) with is not "correlation vs causation" but no I just don't understand the point of a graph that says the sky is blue.


Let me tell you a story.

Back in high school, I had to do chemistry lab reports. I like chemistry, but I hated labs because I would usually do something wrong (i.e. not following the instruction carefully enough) so I can never get more than 50% of the theoretical yield while most of my colleagues could get around 80%+.

So, when I write my lab report, I will always say that one source of my error is impurity with the chemicals I am working with. Technically, it's not wrong - pretty much nothing is 100% pure. I can apply this criticism to any experiment I perform.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 16 2014 02:45 GMT
#429
On December 16 2014 11:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:29 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....


Reverse causation or endogeneity (you're not going to suggest that good at 10 minutes is exogenous are you?) with is not "correlation vs causation" but no I just don't understand the point of a graph that says the sky is blue.

I mean I think seeing the relative win % is actually kind of neat. Obviously the more you area ahead the more likely you are to win, but this puts some actual numbers on that.

Kind of. But it doesn't really tell us an effect of gold just a statement that if you're winning by x you're likely to have that win %.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 16 2014 02:56 GMT
#430
On December 16 2014 11:29 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 11:26 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:15 Goumindong wrote:
On December 16 2014 11:06 chalice wrote:
On December 16 2014 10:57 Goumindong wrote:
OK?

So now we know that you win more when you're ahead. Did we not know that before?

rest assured that educating or illuminating you in any way, shape, or form was not my intent when i posted that image.


So what was the point? And yes sufficiency i know its gold lead at 10 minutes. Not sure how that changes my comment.


You are not going to argue correlation vs causation again, are you....


Reverse causation or endogeneity (you're not going to suggest that good at 10 minutes is exogenous are you?) with is not "correlation vs causation" but no I just don't understand the point of a graph that says the sky is blue.

the graph says how blue the sky is.
dunno why you making such a fuss, not like he put some grand hypothesis that the graph is supposed to prove...
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 03:07 GMT
#431
The problem isn't that the result is "obvious". The problem is that applying generic criticism to an observational study shows the lack of insight - because you can throw the same criticism to any observational study. In fact, I can apply his criticism to almost every top economics paper that uses observational data - because, frankly, you can't observe everything and there will always be hidden confounding factors that correlates with the error term.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 16 2014 03:16 GMT
#432
Omitted variable bias usually isn't a thing.

The complaint most common in economics is a poor instrumental variable. My complaint is, generally with what you've been proposing, that you didn't bother to find one and didn't even realize that you might need one, because you didn't understand the structure of the system.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 03:21:53
December 16 2014 03:21 GMT
#433
On December 16 2014 12:16 Goumindong wrote:
Omitted variable bias usually isn't a thing.

The complaint most common in economics is a poor instrumental variable. My complaint is, generally with what you've been proposing, that you didn't bother to find one and didn't even realize that you might need one, because you didn't understand the structure of the system.


So, instead of throwing buzz words at people, just make some simple suggestion at chalice on how to find these more intricate structures of the system using your expertise in economics. Because that's very constructive and a LOT more impressive.

In fact it would be very interesting and would actually show how much you know about econometric principles.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 16 2014 03:28 GMT
#434
Hey, rest of GD. Is this where they get down to the nitty gritty of their statistical dick measuring contest and then argue about shit like which measurement system to use, what the "start" point is, and other measuring methodology squabbles?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 03:42 GMT
#435
Not really. It's not a dick measuring contest.

I think Goumindong obviously has some expertise on econometrics that the rest of us here lack. I think it would be nice to see how an economist would conduct a study on "how important is gold lead at 10 minutes". I think there is a lot to be learned here.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 03:52:57
December 16 2014 03:51 GMT
#436
Can we go back to harshly criticising every move Riot makes, instead of arguing about statistical garbage?

Although, I like the new Void Portal item in theory. It got a buff on the PBE that gives bonus AD and AP based on your armour and magic resist when you are near the portal. In addition, if it goes though as is on PBE, it will be only the 2nd item currently in the game that gives both Armour and Magic Resist. Neat.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2014 03:54 GMT
#437
On December 16 2014 12:51 JazzVortical wrote:
Can we go back to harshly criticising every move Riot makes, instead of arguing about statistical garbage?

Although, I like the new Void Portal item in theory. It got a buff on the PBE that gives bonus AD and AP based on your armour and magic resist when you are near the portal. In addition, if it goes though as is on PBE, it will be only the 2nd item currently in the game that gives both Armour and Magic Resist. Neat.


Now you reminded me that I am still bitter over the removal of Sword of the Divine.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
December 16 2014 03:55 GMT
#438
On December 16 2014 12:51 JazzVortical wrote:
Can we go back to harshly criticising every move Riot makes, instead of arguing about statistical garbage?

Although, I like the new Void Portal item in theory. It got a buff on the PBE that gives bonus AD and AP based on your armour and magic resist when you are near the portal. In addition, if it goes though as is on PBE, it will be only the 2nd item currently in the game that gives both Armour and Magic Resist. Neat.

It got changed today to buff voidspawn after the 3rd instead.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 03:59:52
December 16 2014 03:58 GMT
#439
wow im mad how they recoloured bloodlord vlad for new rift and his hair and shoulders arent white anymore instead look like some dirty beige, completely destroyed my favourite skin for me zzzzzzzz
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 16 2014 04:17 GMT
#440
This void portal reminds me of Temple Siege in Brood War where you could make buildings that would spawn extra units to go down the lanes. Was kind of cool.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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