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On November 26 2014 13:45 Gahlo wrote:
It says on her preview that she's supposed to be relying on the laner's damage for gank success. -.-
yeah. and i was trying to figure out if she could be played as an assassin, since it'd be more thematic that way for her kit and all. seems kinda wasteful for a kit all about mobility and hunting champions to be a disruptive tank whose cc doesn't scale (whether through CDR or scaling like janna)
On November 26 2014 14:18 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 13:45 Gahlo wrote:
It says on her preview that she's supposed to be relying on the laner's damage for gank success. -.- So a worse version of Rammus??? =) Just a random guess btw, I haven't examined the numbers in details; only looked at some of the PBE streams.
 i put the numbers 2 posts above the one im quoting lol.
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On November 26 2014 13:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
no, it's because poppy's kit is ridiculous. Not even Dota heroes have abilities on the level of Poppy's passive and ult (except Oracle. fuck that guy)
That's kind of fun to think about because it entirely depends on how her kit would interact with Dota2's mechanics. I think she'd actually be fine, her passive would be strong but the rest of her kit is still a League kit dwarfed by the presences of Spell Immunity Piercing, Spell Immunity and Spell blocks, purges, and pure damage.
Her inability to lane would also be exacerbated by a billion.
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On November 26 2014 16:18 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 13:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
no, it's because poppy's kit is ridiculous. Not even Dota heroes have abilities on the level of Poppy's passive and ult (except Oracle. fuck that guy) That's kind of fun to think about because it entirely depends on how her kit would interact with Dota2's mechanics. I think she'd actually be fine, her passive would be strong but the rest of her kit is still a League kit dwarfed by the presences of Spell Immunity Piercing, Spell Immunity and Spell blocks, purges, and pure damage. Her inability to lane would also be exacerbated by a billion.
I just think it's funny that poppy is back in relevance in a niche way after 3 years of little to no pro play, all while being untouched. Similar to what I said about Kat, the rotation of early game nerfs have finally gotten around so many time that shit like poppy is back in force. #thedreamisalivefornow
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Is Poppy's passive still the buggiest skill in the game?
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On November 26 2014 16:51 TheYango wrote:
Is Poppy's passive still the buggiest skill in the game?
Was it ever buggy? It's one of the harder interactions to notice if bugged
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It used to be buggy as hell. Smash used to rage endlessly about this fact and how it fucked over kills because the damage prevention calculation was obviously wrong. The bugs actually made it way better than it is on paper because it would block much more damage than it's supposed to.
Just wondering if it actually got fixed when he actually went to Riot.
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On November 26 2014 16:54 TheYango wrote:
It used to be buggy as hell. Smash used to rage endlessly about this fact and how it fucked over kills because the damage prevention calculation was obviously wrong. The bugs actually made it way better than it is on paper because it would block much more damage than it's supposed to.
Just wondering if it actually got fixed when he actually went to Riot.
I don't remember that ever being the case, but I didn't start playing til like end of season 1. Looked it up on google, only a mention of this in 2010 on rito lol forums. So either poppy was so obsolete no one noticed, secretly patched (no patch notes regarding passive), or smash qq is more unfounded than alaric's qq post. Hue
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On November 26 2014 16:54 TheYango wrote:
It used to be buggy as hell. Smash used to rage endlessly about this fact and how it fucked over kills because the damage prevention calculation was obviously wrong. The bugs actually made it way better than it is on paper because it would block much more damage than it's supposed to.
Just wondering if it actually got fixed when he actually went to Riot.
since smash got hired then it's been changed a bit with towers and true damage iirc. it'd be odd for the bugs not to be fixed, but then again, the looks into inner riot means he may not have even known they were changing it so he couldnt have input.
On November 26 2014 16:51 TheYango wrote:
Is Poppy's passive still the buggiest skill in the game?
Nah, azir got released.
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On November 26 2014 17:07 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't remember that ever being the case, but I didn't start playing til like end of season 1. Looked it up on google, only a mention of this in 2010 on rito lol forums. So either poppy was so obsolete no one noticed, secretly patched (no patch notes regarding passive), or smash qq is more unfounded than alaric's qq post. Hue
It definitely was a thing. You could go into a test game where Pantheon skills Heartseeker for the autocrit, Poppy skills nothing (so Paragon stacks aren't fucking with the damage), and once you get into Poppy passive range, progressive autoattacks would do steadily less damage. The passive wasn't working the way it was written.
It probably got fixed if it works fine now.
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Are those Sejuani buffs? Seems kind of a shuffling of some kind. I dunno, I suck at parsing this kind of thing. This isn't even getting into lowering the duration of permafrost's slow.
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On November 26 2014 17:20 Parnage wrote:Are those Sejuani buffs? Seems kind of a shuffling of some kind. I dunno, I suck at parsing this kind of thing. This isn't even getting into lowering the duration of permafrost's slow.
she does more damage, is more reliant on her team or ultimate to gank
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So you're visible while burrowing, but are you visible while making and using tunnels or using your ult?
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Why did they feel the need to nerf Ranger's smite and Golems buff? Why couldn't they have made the other smites and minibuffs on par with them? T_T
Back to the drawing board, then.
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On November 26 2014 17:33 MidnightGladius wrote:
Why did they feel the need to nerf Ranger's smite and Golems buff? Why couldn't they have made the other smites and minibuffs on par with them? T_T
Back to the drawing board, then.
The problem with rangers was it allowed people to do jungle whom they didn't want being able to do jungle. Personally I would have liked to see it play out in it's current version, and let people play around with stalkers+poachers+skirmishers a bit more. I think some adjusting to skirmisher (regarding it's interaction with WW ult was needed), stalkers probably needed a slight buff, and poachers needed some major number changes.
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On November 26 2014 17:20 Parnage wrote:Are those Sejuani buffs? Seems kind of a shuffling of some kind. I dunno, I suck at parsing this kind of thing. This isn't even getting into lowering the duration of permafrost's slow.
It's a flat nerf, especially her E. Don't listen to PX.
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On November 26 2014 17:47 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 17:20 Parnage wrote:Are those Sejuani buffs? Seems kind of a shuffling of some kind. I dunno, I suck at parsing this kind of thing. This isn't even getting into lowering the duration of permafrost's slow. It's a flat nerf, especially her E. Don't listen to PX.
? i mean mathematically she does more damage, thats a fact. that doesn't make her stronger. i've said many times she'll be weaker overall.
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On November 26 2014 18:05 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2014 17:47 Fildun wrote:On November 26 2014 17:20 Parnage wrote:Are those Sejuani buffs? Seems kind of a shuffling of some kind. I dunno, I suck at parsing this kind of thing. This isn't even getting into lowering the duration of permafrost's slow. It's a flat nerf, especially her E. Don't listen to PX. ? i mean mathematically she does more damage, thats a fact. that doesn't make her stronger. i've said many times she'll be weaker overall.
Please explain your math then.
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On November 26 2014 17:29 TheHumanSensation wrote:
So you're visible while burrowing, but are you visible while making and using tunnels or using your ult?
you're never invisible. that includes when using your tunnels/ult.
but according to a red post on reddit, you're untargetable during your ult. on top of that, if your tunnel is destroyed during your ult travel time, you still travel through.
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