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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 08 2014 23:53 GMT
#1501
On September 09 2014 08:13 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 07:32 Goumindong wrote:
Not sure about Europe but in the US verbal contracts are still binding. If he has chat logs it could easily be settled in court.

That being said who would pay 200 dollars an hour for coaching? Holy fuck $32,000 a month for a coach? That is a yearly salary for an LCS player (before sponsorships and streaming) you could buy a b team for that much money

that isn't how hourly works you don't just multiply it out


It depends on what you're doing but yes. Multiplying it out is the essence of hourly charging. Yes, i know that many people charge higher than a monthly rate to cover for the fact that they are not working all the time. I also know that many people charge lots of money because they don't want to do something. And i know that many times you wont charge for prep work. That doesn't change his supposed full time rate.

I mean what, say you pay him an actual reasonable full time salary of 4000 a month. You would get a half a week of services from him! He says he worked 12-14 hours which is about 2340 to 2730. If he was expected to work a day and a half a month you would be paying him 28 thousand dollars a year!

And its clear that he wanted to charge for his prep work since he is "estimating his time at 12-14 hours"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 09 2014 00:04 GMT
#1502
He pretty much just killed his own case because he ESTIMATES his time to be 12-14 hours.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 09 2014 00:22 GMT
#1503
Karmas a bitch. Shouldn't have stole money from people to coach them then not coach them, should have set up a contract.

LS has it coming. Whoever's right, I'm tired of hearing about LS.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 09 2014 00:23 GMT
#1504
On September 09 2014 08:38 Complete wrote:
hmm

how does vayne deal 87 magic damage damage to champions?

Has the 5% of ap magic damage on hit mastery for some reason, and had baron for a bit.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 09 2014 00:29 GMT
#1505
proccing Braum's stun also gives you a really low amount of magic damage.
Carrilord has arrived.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
September 09 2014 00:31 GMT
#1506


How does Garen gank besides just running at people and hoping they don't run away?


Isnt that what udyr does?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 09 2014 00:33 GMT
#1507
Udyr also sucks at ganking. He is a jungler because he can powerfarm, take dragon easily, and towerdive (partially because of the levels from powerfarming).
Freeeeeeedom
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 09 2014 00:39 GMT
#1508
Every time there's a story about somebody in Esports not getting paid for whatever, it makes me sad.

Because it means that somebody who is an actual part of the industry is still not taking the industry seriously.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 09 2014 00:52 GMT
#1509
On September 09 2014 09:39 Ketara wrote:
Every time there's a story about somebody in Esports not getting paid for whatever, it makes me sad.

Because it means that somebody who is an actual part of the industry is still not taking the industry seriously.




you have people not pay other people everywhere.
For example at work we dont accept any contract from certain parts of the Eu like romania, because youll just end up running after your money.


Guess in league you have this a bit more because on the one hand there are those amateurs that just really liked playing games and on the other you have those leeches who just want some of the money Riot is spreading around.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 09 2014 00:53 GMT
#1510
On September 09 2014 09:29 Slusher wrote:
proccing Braum's stun also gives you a really low amount of magic damage.


Much more than 87 though, unless she only procced it once or twice in early laning
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
September 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#1511
On September 09 2014 09:31 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +


How does Garen gank besides just running at people and hoping they don't run away?


Isnt that what udyr does?


Already answered right below you but not fully: while Udyr moves just as fast Garen he can keep the speed up for long enough to actually get to you, has a fast attack speed steroid to keep red buff on you, and a stun.
Call me Sunday
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#1512
So this is LS's response regarding the 12-14 thing:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2ftycq/daily_dotpublic_row_over_missing_payments_engulfs/ckcxy5y

I am so confused. How did he ask G2 for money if he doesn't actually know how much to claim? Did he actually ask G2 for the money, if he does not know the exact amount to ask for?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 09 2014 01:18 GMT
#1513
Yes, he acted poorly in that he didn't have a contract and didn't document the amount of time properly. Really though, that's not the issue. Who cares if he's one hour off when he's willing to settle for much less than the actual amount owed? The point is that they are (or were) not planning to give him ANYTHING. THAT is the issue.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 09 2014 01:27 GMT
#1514
Yeah as much as I'm sure LS could have handled it better, reading it it does sound like he's actually the victim here.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 09 2014 01:29 GMT
#1515
From reading the posts in the reddit thread, definitely seems like ocelote is in the wrong and LS is in the right. LS apparently provided a bunch of proof like skype logs, etc., whereas ocelote hasn't really done anything similar besides talk shit about LS.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 01:32:30
September 09 2014 01:32 GMT
#1516
holy shit jungle akali sounds legit going in dry boys
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 01:43:36
September 09 2014 01:43 GMT
#1517
So are we allowed to talk about the Worlds draws here, or should I keep all of my opinions on it to the Worlds thread?

As for oddball junglers, some of the mages can also work well in the jungle. If memory serves I tested Vel'Koz jungle when he released and it's rough until you get Spirit Stone, and after that it's pretty good. Gank wise it's pretty meh, just because of how slow you are, but the Q slow and E knockup are also kinda relevant/good.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 09 2014 01:54 GMT
#1518
On September 09 2014 10:32 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit jungle akali sounds legit going in dry boys


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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
September 09 2014 02:19 GMT
#1519
On September 09 2014 09:22 iCanada wrote:
Karmas a bitch. Shouldn't have stole money from people to coach them then not coach them, should have set up a contract.

LS has it coming. Whoever's right, I'm tired of hearing about LS.


So much this.

Also ocelote finally getting shown for what he is.
Useless wet fish.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3851 Posts
September 09 2014 02:24 GMT
#1520
On September 09 2014 10:43 Kinie wrote:
So are we allowed to talk about the Worlds draws here, or should I keep all of my opinions on it to the Worlds thread?

As for oddball junglers, some of the mages can also work well in the jungle. If memory serves I tested Vel'Koz jungle when he released and it's rough until you get Spirit Stone, and after that it's pretty good. Gank wise it's pretty meh, just because of how slow you are, but the Q slow and E knockup are also kinda relevant/good.


you have absolutely convinced me not to play Velkoz jungle

: o )
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