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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 20:33:27
July 30 2014 20:32 GMT
#221
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
July 30 2014 20:35 GMT
#222
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Go to the Netherlands where both are legal!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 30 2014 20:41 GMT
#223
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf


Anything involving sex seems immoral to some people. Doesn't make much sense but it's just the way the world is currently.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10352 Posts
July 30 2014 20:42 GMT
#224
On July 31 2014 05:41 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf


Anything involving sex seems immoral to some people. Doesn't make much sense but it's just the way the world is currently.

i think it comes from some old book or something
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 20:43:14
July 30 2014 20:43 GMT
#225
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf

They don't have to be immoral, it's more just some over protective mother looking over her 13-14 year old sons shoulder as he watches "that game he always plays" and sees 5 guys with giant youporn ads on their shirts filling the screen.

Not the best impression~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21509 Posts
July 30 2014 20:43 GMT
#226
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf

Do you believe Riot would be ok with a team playing in the LCS would have YouPorn written on the front in nice big letters?
How about you react to the rest of the post instead of focusing on a single word.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 30 2014 20:48 GMT
#227
From what I read about schools in the states I think Riot having a Condom brand as a sponsor would actually be pretty responsible of them.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 30 2014 20:51 GMT
#228
On July 31 2014 05:48 Numy wrote:
From what I read about schools in the states I think Riot having a Condom brand as a sponsor would actually be pretty responsible of them.

Yeah well this is also the country where abstinence only is the prevailing form of sexual education in schools so I can see how some they might get some backlash. I blame the fucking bible belt.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 20:55:24
July 30 2014 20:54 GMT
#229
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padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 21:04:24
July 30 2014 20:54 GMT
#230
fucking people with arachnophobia D:
Riot seems dead set on bringing back s2 style jungling. Maybe Oddone shouldnt have retired.
Seems we're back to jungling Jarvan/Vi on soloQ for snowballing until they nerf both of them too. Again.

I do like the trends of naut/maokai etc junglers coming out recently but their two buff clear still feels super vulnerable to lvl2 cheeses (sometimes double buff because AD junglers can quickly rush down both buffs while the poor tanky junglers are still struggling with wolves)

That being said, goddamn whens the sej early clear buffs coming
Stop procrastinating
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 21:14:35
July 30 2014 21:14 GMT
#231
On July 31 2014 05:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

On July 31 2014 05:32 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?

Riot is very conscience about there image and the image of LoL. Im 100% sure they would never allow the scenario you describe. Oh and don't forget Riot and Valve both have 0 reason to allow this for money, they are both earning more then they could ever spend.
Unlike the UFC scenario they don't have to sell their morals to stay in business.


why are porn/condoms immoral LOL wtf

Do you believe Riot would be ok with a team playing in the LCS would have YouPorn written on the front in nice big letters?
How about you react to the rest of the post instead of focusing on a single word.


because the rest of the post I wasn't going to argue with. Its a fair point that maybe its an awkward sponsor to have and UFC is a bit more adult focused with ring girls and shit.
I never stated that I disagreed with everything.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 21:59:38
July 30 2014 21:50 GMT
#232
On July 31 2014 04:56 JimmiC wrote:
I wanna pick up janna, Could explain proper itemization, runes and masteries and so on? Or to save your self time. Could you link me to a good guide? Would be much appreciated

Runes:
I've been pretty lazy with my runes this season. Still ,some guidelines...
- Mana regen. You want it, at the very least 2.0, Gleeb was running 3+ (though it was his nami page). You can't really exchange these, the so called presence of yours is measured by your shields and qs, whther they are used agressively or defensively.
- health yellows, armor quints. Aka basic bot stuff
- I use armor reds, but I've seen Jannas running mpen or flat attack damage. The latter makes you fucking annoying in lane with your shield aa harass, the former I do not like, unless you are maxin w, which you should not do if you are just picking up her.
- ap quints and scaling ap glyphs are a viable choice too. The scaling on her shield (both the shield and the bonus atk dmg part) is nuts.
- Janna goes 21 in utility and seemingly buys items with additional extra movement speed, so movement speed quints might seem reasonable too, but they are not.
- A full gp/10 rune page is awesome if you can get away with it. Janna scales extremely well with items.

Mastery:
Standard 9-21, though I'm running 5-25 taking everything in utility but phasewalker, scout, runic affinity, vampirism and inspiration.

Items:
- Start with coin, unless it's a lane where your hp bar is in danger (vs Leona ,Blitzcrank or shenanigans like pantheon or rengar), then you can start with a ruby crystal, howewer I'd strongly advise getting coin vs blitz too. If you are pulled you are fucked anyway. Starting with knife was ok too, but after the nerf to it, and the buff to coin, I see only a a very few reasons to start with it. You will always get talisman eventually on Janna. Always. Saying it twice just to be sure!
- It's not really a Janna thing but don't upgrade your sightstone to ruby sightstone. If you like wasting money, I can pm you which credit card you should transfer your money to.
- Mikael's is too good to pass up, usually a good second item. Start with the idol, unless the game is insanely passive or you do not plan on finishing mikael right away.
- Don't buy ionian boots unless you are really behind, and you don't want to be useless in teamfights. Mobi boots with 21 utility and with your w passive and with your innate passive is just ridiculously good, but always consider buying tabis or mercury. Janna is the support who can be everywhere on the map without mobis too. Usually captain enchantment is the way to go, but there are games when you absolutely need distrotion to reposition yourself with flash for ult. It's usually needed with assasins, because in a matter of seconds your adc can be chased far away from you.
- If the enemy has jax, or irelia, or yi, or trynd consider buying frozen heart. If they have at least two melee aa-based bruisers then don't just consider it, buy it.
- If you don't want Mikael as your second item, ardent censer is an amazing buy too, unless your adc is shit.
- Enemy ap carry fed; amumu or fiddle is jungling, etc. --> aegis. This is a good second buy as well.
- Get Twin Shadows early if they have an akali. Grab it anyway if your team lacks initiation, or the opponent has annoying melee aa based bruisers.
- Meijai is a great item if you learn to be safe. Usually, every death as Janna means you fucked up something hard, unless it's a game where you constantly have to flash into the middle of the enemy team, but even then you should be able to escape with talisman, shield, q-ing them up while leaving your w active.

Usual build vs a team comp (melee-, assasiny oriented) comp you shit on:
1. SS 2. Talisman 3. Tabi/Mobility 4.Frozen Heart 5. Mikael 6. Ardent - if mikaels passive is really needed, get it before frozen heart. It usually is, so just buy glacial shroud (armor and cd for you), then finish mikael.

Usual build vs more balanced team comp:
1. SS 2. Talisman 3. Mercury/Mobility 4. Aegis (locket after mikael) 5. Mikael 6. Ardent - again, Mikael can come earlier

Usual build if you are #winning
1.SS 2. Talisman 3. Mobility 4. Ardent (or Meijai) 5. Death Cap 6. Mikael, or a bf sword to disrespect. // 1. SS. 2. Talisman
3. Mobility 4. Ardent 5. Mikael 6. Frozen Heart/Locket (this is a more conservative winning build, but getting meijai or death cap is not trolly at all, ap is insanely good on support J)

- Buy a qss if you are against Malzahar. Not only because he can ult you, but you might be cc-d when you should flash q or flash r him from his ult. Oh yes, another isntance where you want distortion enchantment.
- Aside from twin shadows, vs akali or khazix upgrade sweeping lens into oracle's lens ASAP, priority over everything after Talisman. You can still buy a vision ward for skirmishes, but oracle should be more than enough.

Other notes:
- Always get exhaust, unless they have volibear support. Don't bring it if they have swain or voli top, just convince your ap to buy morellos, or buy it yourself, no biggie. You will absolutely need exhaust, it's the ultimate shutdown, and your only tool vs a fed vi or fizz. You can't stop those guys, only after they burned everything.
- It's ok to get scrying orb later on, matches are lost because there's comes a point when there are no wards at baron (it's not necessarily your fault, it could have a number of reasons), and then you either facecheck into a trap or give them free baron. Tbh it's not the support that should pick it up, but hey, it's solo queue.
- If you start playing with her in normals flash ult the enemy whenever you think "would it work?". Don't second guess yourself, you will probably die anyway, but you can't start practicing it soon enough! .D
- Stay. with. your. adc. Whenever you lose a 5v5, it's because you did something else. It's not true of course, there games where you have to play differently, but for first, always stay with your adc, even if hes shit. Unless hes vayne, fuck him then. Jk, help him too.
- Do not have more than 3 active items or vision ward in your inventory. My experience is that the more active items you have, the less efficently you will use them. You should draw the line, even though stuff like randuin (did not write about it, I know), twin shadows, qss are viable and sometimes needed, you either mash your keyboard in panic, or forget at least one of them, or fail to see one of your abilities came off cooldown. Don't forget, you will almost always have talisman and mikael, which is 2 out of the 3. That's why I like ardent, if you naturally struggle with activated items (ie have troubles even using the 1 you have) Ardent is an amazing purchease.
- Don't forget your passive!! Often just walking behind your teammate who is chasing soeone is enough for him to be able to catch up. Do not ever underestimate that 5%. remember, 3 movespeed glyphs adds 4.5% mov speed, so either everyone who uses them are stupid, or 5% is fucking good.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 30 2014 22:03 GMT
#233
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 30 2014 22:05 GMT
#234
Yeah that's a great writeup. Thanks.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 30 2014 22:10 GMT
#235
Don't forget to c/c it to the Janna thread in the strategy section, can't hurt!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 22:10:39
July 30 2014 22:10 GMT
#236
I really don't understand why you would start coin over frostfang.Coin gives you literally nothing for the same cost.Sure it builds into a more useful item but why would you limit your early laning so much.Much better to start with ff and sell it later.

Also don't always get exhaust.Look at both teams first.That should be common sense.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 30 2014 22:10 GMT
#237
yeah frostfang so much better
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 22:36:18
July 30 2014 22:29 GMT
#238
On Janna, always get exhaust. There could be a very little asterix for the likes of soraka, but janna is nothing like nami, where your opponents will sit under turret with 20% hp. If you are the type of guy who always bring ignite to bot as a support, then by all means, exhaust is still superior on Janna. That being said I won with CV Leona too, so yeah.

Frostfang is not "so much better", especially since the nerfs. It's upside was the $$$s and the better early game damage, but after this patch I don't see how can you argue about it. Frost queens active is shit, especially for Janna who already has 2 abilities to disengage and 2 abilities to catch someone. Talisman also good at two things, engaging and disengaging. cdr is the same, and it will be maxed out anyway with your choice of items, and if you want ap just buy mejai or deathcap. Spellthief is especially shit vs the likes of nami, lulu or sona, where it's way too dangerous and ineffective to utilize the goldstealing passive.

Edit: one thing I completely forgot is the cdr reduction on talisman. I've been already accustomed to having 20000% cdr (rough estimate) from support items. Ionian is still be just an emergency buy imo, but will see.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 02:24:08
July 30 2014 22:36 GMT
#239
On July 31 2014 05:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2014 05:26 JimmiC wrote:
Like 7-5 years ago when UFC wasn't as main stream as it is now they had Condom-depot.com as a sponsor on tons of guys shorts. So whatever, get your sponsors where you can, you can't start out with harley davidson, budwiser bugerking and so on. If you don't like the site or porn then don't visit. But let them send the money to esports all day.

Edit: I've always found it how it's illegal for one person to charge another person for sex, but it's fine to pay someone or boht people for sex as long as you video it and sell it. Makes sense... right?


It's all a conspiracy to keep men slaves to girlfriends/wives and spending all their money funding the corporate machine if you like this read more at reddit/r/theredpill

Thx for the link.

Don't agree with most of it but interesting reads.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
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Last Edited: 2014-07-30 22:47:54
July 30 2014 22:37 GMT
#240
so now flashing even in turret range drops turret aggro lol ...
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