[Patch 4.9] RIP Kha'Zix General Discussion - Page 41
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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things. Enough is enough. Let's move along now. -NeoIllusions | ||
krndandaman
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VayneAuthority
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Sufficiency
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On June 07 2014 09:42 obesechicken13 wrote: Aw sick! I didn't know you'd made graphs or had forgotten. I didn't make graphs. I just made a spreadsheet with the green/red stuff and post it as a screenshot. | ||
Slayer91
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On June 07 2014 09:47 krndandaman wrote: Not really a working analogy. You don't have 150 different champions to play and we are not pro players. Roles in basketball are also largely defined by your height. Whenever I play pick up basketball I don't always play pointguard. If I'm the shortest player, I'll probably play it. Even then, basketball is a lot different from league in that you can pretty much do anything other people do. You aren't limited by your role (unless of course you are a professional on a team). Come up with a better analogy. Wasn't applied to pro players. I'm talking about the general populous on league. I disagree. We have over a 100 different champs to play in this game. Does it make any sense to limit yourself to just 1 champion? Sure if you wanna just gain elo you can just become a 1 trick pony and master the champion. Also the pros aren't 1 trick ponies. They are just exceptionally good at the role/champs they play but they would still smash most high elo players in other roles, especially with practice. It's no wonder pros don't really respect the 1 trick ponies. They are utterly useless in a competitive setting. I also disagree that higher elo = higher skill. It's a good marker for it but definitely not absolute. there are like 15 roles in rugby, or whatever 11 in american footbal, does it make sense to limit yourself to one positon? its the langauge you use is a problem, its not about limiting yourself its about focusing to increase your skill as much as possible in one area, and when you are finished you stop, unfortunately nobody is good enough to ever reach a skill ceiling so they just keep focusing in the same area unless they are required to switch for external reasons. pros dont respect the non pros unless they are like the top tier or solo q, so that argument doesnt mean anything, it wouldn't take a challenger 1 trick pony more than 10 games to be able to rape diamond players with a champ its the exact same argument you used for pros being able to rape people in offroles its the same thing with people who main 1 role/1 champ they tend to be significantly better at everything except champ specific skill on non main champs people who paly lots of champs arent better at regular champs, they are just equally bad on everything because its so much harder to learn with a new set of skills to work with every game | ||
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wei2coolman
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On June 07 2014 10:24 Slayer91 wrote: there are like 15 roles in rugby, or whatever 11 in american footbal, does it make sense to limit yourself to one positon? its the langauge you use is a problem, its not about limiting yourself its about focusing to increase your skill as much as possible in one area, and when you are finished you stop, unfortunately nobody is good enough to ever reach a skill ceiling so they just keep focusing in the same area unless they are required to switch for external reasons. pros dont respect the non pros unless they are like the top tier or solo q, so that argument doesnt mean anything, it wouldn't take a challenger 1 trick pony more than 10 games to be able to rape diamond players with a champ its the exact same argument you used for pros being able to rape people in offroles its the same thing with people who main 1 role/1 champ they tend to be significantly better at everything except champ specific skill on non main champs people who paly lots of champs arent better at regular champs, they are just equally bad on everything because its so much harder to learn with a new set of skills to work with every game too much rape. please think of the women. | ||
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On June 07 2014 10:31 kongoline wrote: is lulu considered easy to play? i read somewhere shes like ziggs but im after 3rd game and i still suck with her while with ziggs i was decent almost from the start lol You can probably play her okay and do okay in lane because she is quite forgiving, but she has a pretty high skillcap because she's got such a versatile kit. I'd compare her to Lee Sin (though with less micro)-- you can do so many things in so many different situations with the champ. Ziggs is you go in and blow stuff up, Lulu is more the type that controls the flow of the fight. You have to go in with a pretty different mindset, Lulu is not really about doing straight damage. | ||
krndandaman
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obesechicken13
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On June 07 2014 11:05 GolemMadness wrote: Kayle was #1 win rate before people started building hurricane on her. Oh. Nvm then | ||
Goumindong
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On June 07 2014 10:31 kongoline wrote: is lulu considered easy to play? i read somewhere shes like ziggs but im after 3rd game and i still suck with her while with ziggs i was decent almost from the start lol Her laning is really strong, but Ziggs teamfight is much easier since he has fewer critical decisions to make | ||
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On June 07 2014 11:54 GolemMadness wrote: Mikael's doesn't work on suppresses. Really? Oh man... | ||
jaybrundage
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On June 07 2014 11:50 Sufficiency wrote: WW is seriously freelo right now in plat and below. No supports build Mikail's and everyone plays dumb. You just press R and win. Simple as that. You are referencing support WW correct :3 | ||
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