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Updated TL LoL policy in regards to the use of "lomo"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 06 2014 18:20 GMT
#2661
That Zilean/Yorick/Annie/Kha'Zix/Ryze comp on Crumbzz's stream... I'm curious now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
May 06 2014 18:22 GMT
#2662
On May 07 2014 03:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yes, I warned him for saying "lomo". It falls under the TL rule that we have in regards to Twitch memes. I was incredibly lenient about it previously but the admins want me to enforce it on all users, staff included.

For those who haven't read my comments about the recent Roffles ban in LoL OT:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1875#37489
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1876#37506

Edit: I probably should have done a PSA or something along those lines in regards to the changed views of using lomo. So apologies to AlterKot if he took offense to me warning him.

I think that at least half, if not 3/4 of the people that read GD do not read Off-topic. In that light I think that a PSA and a modnote would be pretty nice here.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 06 2014 18:23 GMT
#2663
Yeah I remember the post that users shouldn't use that word aymore, so can't really complain about the warning.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2014 18:24 GMT
#2664
On May 07 2014 03:22 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 03:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yes, I warned him for saying "lomo". It falls under the TL rule that we have in regards to Twitch memes. I was incredibly lenient about it previously but the admins want me to enforce it on all users, staff included.

For those who haven't read my comments about the recent Roffles ban in LoL OT:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1875#37489
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1876#37506

Edit: I probably should have done a PSA or something along those lines in regards to the changed views of using lomo. So apologies to AlterKot if he took offense to me warning him.

I think that at least half, if not 3/4 of the people that read GD do not read Off-topic. In that light I think that a PSA and a modnote would be pretty nice here.


There wasn't a PSA for it in OT, but I agree a modnote for awareness is probably not a horrible idea, at least for now.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
May 06 2014 18:32 GMT
#2665
On May 07 2014 03:20 Nos- wrote:
That's a really weird point of view considering there are plenty of people shitting on every single player regardless of performance

like I'm sure people like LeBron gets flamed more intense than the fiery wrath of a thousand suns in comparison to league players

The difference is LeBron knows he's good (at least I think -- I don't really follow basketball but I'm under the impression he's one of the top players) and when you know you're good it's a lot easier to brush off flames, because there are always going to be haters. Flamers sting a lot more when there is some actual truth behind the flames

Like, I can go call DL a trash AD carry but he knows he's one of, if not the best marksman in NA, and by knowing that it's a lot easier to brush me off.

tl;dr: thick skin is easier to develop if you're good
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2014 18:42 GMT
#2666
On May 07 2014 03:32 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 03:20 Nos- wrote:
That's a really weird point of view considering there are plenty of people shitting on every single player regardless of performance

like I'm sure people like LeBron gets flamed more intense than the fiery wrath of a thousand suns in comparison to league players

The difference is LeBron knows he's good (at least I think -- I don't really follow basketball but I'm under the impression he's one of the top players) and when you know you're good it's a lot easier to brush off flames, because there are always going to be haters. Flamers sting a lot more when there is some actual truth behind the flames

Like, I can go call DL a trash AD carry but he knows he's one of, if not the best marksman in NA, and by knowing that it's a lot easier to brush me off.

tl;dr: thick skin is easier to develop if you're good


Well, it's easy to ignore stupidity when you know they're wrong and just flaming for the sake of flaming. Thick skin is more an attribute of confidence in one's abilities, and less about "not giving a fuck about what people think". The best sift through the flaming, find the constructive feedback, and better themselves.

And confidence isn't to be mistaken for arrogance.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 18:47:51
May 06 2014 18:44 GMT
#2667
between twitter, twitch, and reddit (and teamliquid because we're relevant right guys), there's no way to fully moderate a community beyond the really blatant stuff like doxing and death threats, and even that's difficult to control

the onus is on players themselves to manage their mental health. community interaction is a two way street where either party can choose to disengage at any time - 'hey all, i'm going dark on social media for a bit to focus on my game' has historically been met with vocal support, and those who are martyring players and criticizing the community need to realize that brand building through fan interaction comes at the cost of knowing what the community is saying about you, good or bad
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 06 2014 18:47 GMT
#2668
When I think about it forgiven isn't the best example, a more appropriate example of thick skin would be froggen. He's been under the microscope of community flame for a very long time post S2 until alliance really picked their game up but he didn't really seem to take it to heart and focused on improving his game which at least in terms of individual play does reflect in how he's improved.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 06 2014 18:54 GMT
#2669
I don't get this Nien thing. The guy was mediocre for quite some time. I think the whole "the community made me do it" is just a convenient excuse.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 06 2014 18:56 GMT
#2670
On May 07 2014 03:47 Fusilero wrote:
When I think about it forgiven isn't the best example, a more appropriate example of thick skin would be froggen. He's been under the microscope of community flame for a very long time post S2 until alliance really picked their game up but he didn't really seem to take it to heart and focused on improving his game which at least in terms of individual play does reflect in how he's improved.

I'll be honest, the community was fucking retarded about froggen. Even in s3 when he refused to play zed, he was still easily one of the best mids in EU.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 06 2014 19:03 GMT
#2671
There is twitch memes? I'm old.

Also, Monte's new obsession with "coms", while pretending clg does good strategic plays(which now people are pretending is reality) is making him boring.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 06 2014 19:09 GMT
#2672
On May 07 2014 04:03 cLutZ wrote:
There is twitch memes? I'm old.

Also, Monte's new obsession with "coms", while pretending clg does good strategic plays(which now people are pretending is reality) is making him boring.

I think coms just means "follow shotcalling". It's just easier to say.

CLG's strategic play has gotten a lot better since Monte, can't really deny that.
liftlift > tsm
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
May 06 2014 19:11 GMT
#2673
their drafting has improved, which is probably the area where good coaching is most evident
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 06 2014 19:18 GMT
#2674
On May 07 2014 04:11 Kyrie wrote:
their drafting has improved, which is probably the area where good coaching is most evident

meanwhile lomonation is a fucking god of drafting with his death-notebook.
liftlift > tsm
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 06 2014 19:32 GMT
#2675
On May 07 2014 03:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yes, I warned him for saying "lomo". It falls under the TL rule that we have in regards to Twitch memes. I was incredibly lenient about it previously but the admins want me to enforce it on all users, staff included.

For those who haven't read my comments about the recent Roffles ban in LoL OT:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1875#37489
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1876#37506

Edit: I probably should have done a PSA or something along those lines in regards to the changed views of using lomo. So apologies to AlterKot if he took offense to me warning him.

Are we going to have our own Tl-LoL Purge?
aka time to stop posting for a while till its over cause anyone who has survived through a purge knows what its like
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 06 2014 19:39 GMT
#2676
On May 07 2014 04:32 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 03:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Yes, I warned him for saying "lomo". It falls under the TL rule that we have in regards to Twitch memes. I was incredibly lenient about it previously but the admins want me to enforce it on all users, staff included.

For those who haven't read my comments about the recent Roffles ban in LoL OT:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1875#37489
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/league-of-legends/426393-off-topic-general-discussion?page=1876#37506

Edit: I probably should have done a PSA or something along those lines in regards to the changed views of using lomo. So apologies to AlterKot if he took offense to me warning him.

Are we going to have our own Tl-LoL Purge?
aka time to stop posting for a while till its over cause anyone who has survived through a purge knows what its like


Raising the bar for quality doesn't necessarily have to equal a purge. It just means people have to start being less stupid.

So yeah, maybe it's gonna be a purge...
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 06 2014 20:32 GMT
#2677
--- Nuked ---
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 20:39:27
May 06 2014 20:39 GMT
#2678
AlterKot's warning is not what everyone is talking about.

Roffles has been permed, and moderation is going to become more stringent on this subforum.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 06 2014 20:43 GMT
#2679
On May 07 2014 04:03 cLutZ wrote:
There is twitch memes? I'm old.

Also, Monte's new obsession with "coms", while pretending clg does good strategic plays(which now people are pretending is reality) is making him boring.


listening him analyze a game where someone is clearly just the worse player really gets to me sometimes. If you listen to him talk about the game long enough there are times when he straight up attempts to extract skill/execution. It's almost to the point of being funny when you consider a world where this is true the coach (His job) is the most valuable player.
Carrilord has arrived.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
May 06 2014 20:52 GMT
#2680
Formerly Twitch.tv's most viewed streamer Crs.Voyboy has switched to Azubu and is down to 700 viewers.
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