On April 13 2014 07:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Maybe if instead of giving you 65% tenacity for 3 seconds after use, it just made you immune to CC for 2 seconds instead. I could see that being situationally good.

Black King Cleanse?

GG ADCs.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 12 2014 23:50 GMT

#1345

Got a Sivir rushing brutaliser and, between two salvos of insults at our Soraka (who had a shitty pick but didn't play all that bad) argued that it was all Soraka's fault (after he ran away from her instead of coming in range for a heal) and that bruta is good on Sivir because Ricochet applies BC stacks on everyone. All while trying to fight against BotRK first Vayne and getting trashed over and over.

It was the culminating point in terms of game knowledge, but I'll stand by my opinion that week-ends are worse in general and Elo ranges are skewed between people playing mainly week-ends and people playing mainly on week days.

Dark_Chill

Canada3353 Posts

April 13 2014 00:08 GMT

#1346

Wait, is exhaust not used anymore?

Anggroth

United Kingdom345 Posts

April 13 2014 00:09 GMT

#1347

On April 13 2014 08:50 Alaric wrote:
Got a Sivir rushing brutaliser and, between two salvos of insults at our Soraka (who had a shitty pick but didn't play all that bad) argued that it was all Soraka's fault (after he ran away from her instead of coming in range for a heal) and that bruta is good on Sivir because Ricochet applies BC stacks on everyone. All while trying to fight against BotRK first Vayne and getting trashed over and over.

It was the culminating point in terms of game knowledge, but I'll stand by my opinion that week-ends are worse in general and Elo ranges are skewed between people playing mainly week-ends and people playing mainly on week days.

Weekends and school holidays tend to have a decrease in game quality (as someone who only plays evening/nighttime), I wonder why that is...

zodde

Sweden1908 Posts

April 13 2014 00:13 GMT

#1348

On April 13 2014 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Wait, is exhaust not used anymore?

Exhaust is pretty good on support since the recent buffs too it. Most soloq games I've seen heal on ADC and exhaust on supports, with heal being popular on mids that would previously take barrier.

IMoperator

4476 Posts

April 13 2014 00:15 GMT

#1349

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22uoti/i_miss_the_insane_snowballing/

another complaint about the lack of snowballing in games now, do you guys miss it or like it better now?

zodde

Sweden1908 Posts

April 13 2014 00:24 GMT

#1350

On April 13 2014 09:15 IMoperator wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22uoti/i_miss_the_insane_snowballing/

another complaint about the lack of snowballing in games now, do you guys miss it or like it better now?

I like it better now

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

April 13 2014 00:31 GMT

#1351

In terms of lomo queue games normally dragged out anyway, sure there were the occasional 20 minute faceroll or once in a blue moon a tryhard support/jungle that does suffocate the map in pinks but in S3 for the most part it's still dragged out because people aren't really co-ordinated and run around trying to find kills and occasionally stumbling on an objective.
Though how the meta changed also plays a factor because lomo queue sucks at sieges so it's virtually impossible to make a progress on the ziggs and lulus of S4 compared to the zeds and fizzes of S3.

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

April 13 2014 00:36 GMT

#1352

I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

Gahlo

United States35143 Posts

April 13 2014 00:38 GMT

#1353

On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

Good luck killing a tank with ghostblade.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

April 13 2014 00:38 GMT

#1354

^ you don't need to kill the tanks, the damage from your teammates+your resets will do the job. Activate ghostblade and ult, Q onto a squishy, 3-4 shot him (maybe one hit less thanks to Q) then use the resets to clean-up. Tanks don't survive that until much later, a point they won't reach if you snowball.

Breaking the high ground is still stupidly hard to do against most meta comps unless you snowballed super hard. Loss of vision also makes it so if you're confined in your base making plays is absurdly hard—in soloQ you wouldn't necessarily expect your jungle to be full of wards the way they did it in pro play to "choke" the defending team, but I'm fine with the game being balanced at pro level though.

On April 13 2014 09:13 zodde wrote:

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Exhaust is pretty good on support since the recent buffs too it. Most soloq games I've seen heal on ADC and exhaust on supports, with heal being popular on mids that would previously take barrier.

It's meh in lane, good against some picks (would be against Yi if his ult didn't say "lol no AS debuffs either").
Speaking of Yi, he killed me with autoattacks during Counterstrike (Jax). I'm not sure if it's intended, but either Wuju style's active on-hit or Flare's on-hit magic damage goes through dodge.

Tbh I'm getting pissed at all the shit that should get dodged but doesn't, counterstrike feels more and more like a delayed PB-AoE stun and nothing else outside of edge cases (abusing minion aggro in early laning). Even the "reduces incoming AoE damage" part feels negligible whenever I fight a champion relying on said AoE. It's really frustrating.

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

April 13 2014 00:38 GMT

#1355

On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

You get both

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

April 13 2014 00:41 GMT

#1356

On April 13 2014 09:38 MooMooMugi wrote:

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You get both

I'd never get Bork first, early game it seems Ghostblade will help you shit on everyone far faster than Bork will tbh. I could see getting them both but you shouldn't need to be grabbing that super early imo.

Fusilero

United Kingdom50293 Posts

April 13 2014 00:41 GMT

#1357

I don't play yi so I can't give an expert opinion but that guy who mains yi in Korea says that blade is a higher priority than ghostblade on yi.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22rs5b/i_am_cowsep_i_am_a_diamond_1_foreigner_in_korea/cgpr2ch

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

April 13 2014 00:52 GMT

#1358

In many ways they made games longer/less snowbally without fixing the problem that people actually had with snowballing.

Most lategame champions still aren't "meta" (lategame is kind of a misnomer, more like, champions with a weak laning phase).

People were also upset about 1-2 early-midgame picks creating a massive snowball that negated the rest of the game. That was just shifted to 1-2 mid-lategame picks negating much of the earlygame (unless its already snowballed far enough).

As for the viewing EXP, we still get much of the same things that annoy people like laneswaps and stale toplane picks, so who knows if its better.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

April 13 2014 01:10 GMT

#1359

yo both blades are good
then you can have 7 blades total or however many master yi is wearing on his body

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

April 13 2014 01:11 GMT

#1360

On April 13 2014 09:41 arb wrote:

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Botrk synergizes with feral flame so well giving you more attack speed to proc the flame heal/magic damage and extra lifesteal already in the item, as well as giving you a slow that Yi desperately needs to stick on targets because of his lack of CC.

It also allows you to solo baron with just Feral, Botrk, Berserker Greaves, and Spirit Stone.