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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
April 12 2014 23:04 GMT
#1341
On April 13 2014 06:24 Ketara wrote:
So, I have tried Kayle mid.

And here's what I think of Kayle mid:

Lulu mid is just a better Kayle mid.

True, but only up to the point where Kayle turns into the Deathstar.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
April 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#1342
nah, it's really mikael's that drowned cleanse. Why bother taking that when your support is gonna give you cleanse anyway?
I come in for the scraps
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#1343
--- Nuked ---
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 12 2014 23:35 GMT
#1344
On April 13 2014 07:59 GolemMadness wrote:
Maybe if instead of giving you 65% tenacity for 3 seconds after use, it just made you immune to CC for 2 seconds instead. I could see that being situationally good.


Black King Cleanse?

GG ADCs.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2014 23:50 GMT
#1345
Got a Sivir rushing brutaliser and, between two salvos of insults at our Soraka (who had a shitty pick but didn't play all that bad) argued that it was all Soraka's fault (after he ran away from her instead of coming in range for a heal) and that bruta is good on Sivir because Ricochet applies BC stacks on everyone. All while trying to fight against BotRK first Vayne and getting trashed over and over.

It was the culminating point in terms of game knowledge, but I'll stand by my opinion that week-ends are worse in general and Elo ranges are skewed between people playing mainly week-ends and people playing mainly on week days.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 13 2014 00:08 GMT
#1346
Wait, is exhaust not used anymore?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
April 13 2014 00:09 GMT
#1347
On April 13 2014 08:50 Alaric wrote:
Got a Sivir rushing brutaliser and, between two salvos of insults at our Soraka (who had a shitty pick but didn't play all that bad) argued that it was all Soraka's fault (after he ran away from her instead of coming in range for a heal) and that bruta is good on Sivir because Ricochet applies BC stacks on everyone. All while trying to fight against BotRK first Vayne and getting trashed over and over.

It was the culminating point in terms of game knowledge, but I'll stand by my opinion that week-ends are worse in general and Elo ranges are skewed between people playing mainly week-ends and people playing mainly on week days.


Weekends and school holidays tend to have a decrease in game quality (as someone who only plays evening/nighttime), I wonder why that is...
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 13 2014 00:13 GMT
#1348
On April 13 2014 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Wait, is exhaust not used anymore?


Exhaust is pretty good on support since the recent buffs too it. Most soloq games I've seen heal on ADC and exhaust on supports, with heal being popular on mids that would previously take barrier.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 13 2014 00:15 GMT
#1349
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22uoti/i_miss_the_insane_snowballing/

another complaint about the lack of snowballing in games now, do you guys miss it or like it better now?
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 13 2014 00:24 GMT
#1350
On April 13 2014 09:15 IMoperator wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22uoti/i_miss_the_insane_snowballing/

another complaint about the lack of snowballing in games now, do you guys miss it or like it better now?


I like it better now
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:33:23
April 13 2014 00:31 GMT
#1351
In terms of lomo queue games normally dragged out anyway, sure there were the occasional 20 minute faceroll or once in a blue moon a tryhard support/jungle that does suffocate the map in pinks but in S3 for the most part it's still dragged out because people aren't really co-ordinated and run around trying to find kills and occasionally stumbling on an objective.
Though how the meta changed also plays a factor because lomo queue sucks at sieges so it's virtually impossible to make a progress on the ziggs and lulus of S4 compared to the zeds and fizzes of S3.
Glorious SEA doto
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 13 2014 00:36 GMT
#1352
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 13 2014 00:38 GMT
#1353
On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

Good luck killing a tank with ghostblade.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:39:46
April 13 2014 00:38 GMT
#1354
^ you don't need to kill the tanks, the damage from your teammates+your resets will do the job. Activate ghostblade and ult, Q onto a squishy, 3-4 shot him (maybe one hit less thanks to Q) then use the resets to clean-up. Tanks don't survive that until much later, a point they won't reach if you snowball.

Breaking the high ground is still stupidly hard to do against most meta comps unless you snowballed super hard. Loss of vision also makes it so if you're confined in your base making plays is absurdly hard—in soloQ you wouldn't necessarily expect your jungle to be full of wards the way they did it in pro play to "choke" the defending team, but I'm fine with the game being balanced at pro level though.

On April 13 2014 09:13 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:08 Dark_Chill wrote:
Wait, is exhaust not used anymore?


Exhaust is pretty good on support since the recent buffs too it. Most soloq games I've seen heal on ADC and exhaust on supports, with heal being popular on mids that would previously take barrier.

It's meh in lane, good against some picks (would be against Yi if his ult didn't say "lol no AS debuffs either").
Speaking of Yi, he killed me with autoattacks during Counterstrike (Jax). I'm not sure if it's intended, but either Wuju style's active on-hit or Flare's on-hit magic damage goes through dodge.

Tbh I'm getting pissed at all the shit that should get dodged but doesn't, counterstrike feels more and more like a delayed PB-AoE stun and nothing else outside of edge cases (abusing minion aggro in early laning). Even the "reduces incoming AoE damage" part feels negligible whenever I fight a champion relying on said AoE. It's really frustrating.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 13 2014 00:38 GMT
#1355
On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

You get both
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 13 2014 00:41 GMT
#1356
On April 13 2014 09:38 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

You get both

I'd never get Bork first, early game it seems Ghostblade will help you shit on everyone far faster than Bork will tbh. I could see getting them both but you shouldn't need to be grabbing that super early imo.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 13 2014 00:41 GMT
#1357
I don't play yi so I can't give an expert opinion but that guy who mains yi in Korea says that blade is a higher priority than ghostblade on yi.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22rs5b/i_am_cowsep_i_am_a_diamond_1_foreigner_in_korea/cgpr2ch
Glorious SEA doto
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 13 2014 00:52 GMT
#1358
On April 13 2014 09:15 IMoperator wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22uoti/i_miss_the_insane_snowballing/

another complaint about the lack of snowballing in games now, do you guys miss it or like it better now?


In many ways they made games longer/less snowbally without fixing the problem that people actually had with snowballing.

Most lategame champions still aren't "meta" (lategame is kind of a misnomer, more like, champions with a weak laning phase).

People were also upset about 1-2 early-midgame picks creating a massive snowball that negated the rest of the game. That was just shifted to 1-2 mid-lategame picks negating much of the earlygame (unless its already snowballed far enough).

As for the viewing EXP, we still get much of the same things that annoy people like laneswaps and stale toplane picks, so who knows if its better.
Freeeeeeedom
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 13 2014 01:10 GMT
#1359
yo both blades are good
then you can have 7 blades total or however many master yi is wearing on his body
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 13 2014 01:11 GMT
#1360
On April 13 2014 09:41 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 09:38 MooMooMugi wrote:
On April 13 2014 09:36 arb wrote:
I dont get all these Bork rushes on Yi, I mean yeah you get a slow but it seems to me like Ghostblade is better pretty much in every way

You get both

I'd never get Bork first, early game it seems Ghostblade will help you shit on everyone far faster than Bork will tbh. I could see getting them both but you shouldn't need to be grabbing that super early imo.

Botrk synergizes with feral flame so well giving you more attack speed to proc the flame heal/magic damage and extra lifesteal already in the item, as well as giving you a slow that Yi desperately needs to stick on targets because of his lack of CC.

It also allows you to solo baron with just Feral, Botrk, Berserker Greaves, and Spirit Stone.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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