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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 06:59:11
March 26 2014 06:53 GMT
#1701
On March 26 2014 15:25 Sufficiency wrote:
I finished a part two of the counter analysis.

For a direct link: http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/03/league-of-legends-champion-counters_25.html

For the reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/21e8n1/champion_counters_a_statistical_analysis_part_2/

Couldn't you potentially calculate all the most p-accurate champion-champion counter/synergies, put them into a database, then create a program where you can show what everyone else has picked so far in a lobby, and have the program suggest which champion pick would give the higher probability of winning? You could weight the different probabilities by their p value or something too.

Sure calculating the data would take forever, but once you have the 30-40 most p-reliable pieces of information for each champion, wouldn't it be "relatively" simple to just put them all in an array or something, and write a script to work out the most optimal pick in a situation?

You could even ignore the normalising for winrates step, since you're only interested in the highest win% chance for this situation, which might save some time.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 26 2014 07:05 GMT
#1702
After Riot released Artic Ops Varus I'm encountering Varus in every single solo queue game now, jeez, that is annoying, because as I've noticed out of 6 games, Varus pick won the game only once. And he was in my team, fortunately.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 26 2014 07:10 GMT
#1703
I've only seen that skin once. O_O
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 26 2014 07:10 GMT
#1704
So the problem is that currently the analysis is done on a pairwise basis.

But you are right. I hope eventually (wwith more data and better models) I can predict which side can win by looking at the entire team as a whole. I think your approach is really nice and it will work.

I am mining data from Riot as we speak. I can see a lot of stuff
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 26 2014 08:49 GMT
#1705
I got my Viktor win rate back up to 50%! :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
March 26 2014 09:15 GMT
#1706
On March 26 2014 16:05 739 wrote:
After Riot released Artic Ops Varus I'm encountering Varus in every single solo queue game now, jeez, that is annoying, because as I've noticed out of 6 games, Varus pick won the game only once. And he was in my team, fortunately.


Nothing will compare to the pulsefire ezreal spam... nothing.

Oh, we have an ad? Guess they'll go ap mid... Every. Single. Game.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 26 2014 09:50 GMT
#1707
gg 5hit thresh op
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 10:22:04
March 26 2014 10:21 GMT
#1708
RIOT PLZ

THEY ADDED TEAMBUILDER WHILE I WAS PLAYING A GAME

SO THE NEXT TIME I QUEUED IT WAS FOR DRAFT NORMAL WITHOUT KNOWING IT SINCE ALL THE GAME TYPES GOT SHIFTED DOWN ONE

GGGGGG

EDIT: everyone in the game thought they queued for ranked, too.
:3
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 26 2014 11:00 GMT
#1709
On March 26 2014 19:21 Eiii wrote:
RIOT PLZ

THEY ADDED TEAMBUILDER WHILE I WAS PLAYING A GAME

SO THE NEXT TIME I QUEUED IT WAS FOR DRAFT NORMAL WITHOUT KNOWING IT SINCE ALL THE GAME TYPES GOT SHIFTED DOWN ONE

GGGGGG

EDIT: everyone in the game thought they queued for ranked, too.

SAME HERE
FUCK YOU RIOT
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE GAME THAT GOT ME PROMOTED TO CHALLENGER
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
March 26 2014 11:03 GMT
#1710
holy moly.Team builder is the best thing that happened to this game ever!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 26 2014 12:53 GMT
#1711
i think im gonna go download a nice single player game, or go find another job to work cause this game is unreal right now
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 26 2014 12:57 GMT
#1712
So who are the other TL challengers apart from me?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
March 26 2014 13:07 GMT
#1713
On March 26 2014 21:57 Scip wrote:
So who are the other TL challengers apart from me?

I'm challenger but trapped in elo hell
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 26 2014 13:14 GMT
#1714
We're not cool as you, we all belong to Wood V.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 26 2014 13:14 GMT
#1715
On March 26 2014 21:57 Scip wrote:
So who are the other TL challengers apart from me?

Imagine how much karma you could have gotten if you'd lost your series after winning that normal game, and posted it to reddit.

Such wasted potential~
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
March 26 2014 13:21 GMT
#1716
Scip so mean, basically tellin us all that we are shit. But don't worry im gonna catch up! Will only take me like a year...
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 26 2014 13:28 GMT
#1717
CJ frost invade and kill ozone's jungler at his blue, and doa and montechristo just spent like 90 seconds talking about how level 1's are now totally coinflippy, and how bad that is for the game.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 26 2014 13:41 GMT
#1718
On March 26 2014 22:28 killerdog wrote:
CJ frost invade and kill ozone's jungler at his blue, and doa and montechristo just spent like 90 seconds talking about how level 1's are now totally coinflippy, and how bad that is for the game.

Low level fog is frustrating at the very least. Nothing worse than having teammates that don't ward and having red/blue stolen with no chance to retaliate (less common now that I'm out of gold). Also, even in the better vision environment of s3, remember that 2 of C9's 3 losses were the result of Lvl 1 shenanigans. Low vision at Lvl 1 increases variance without a doubt.
Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 26 2014 13:50 GMT
#1719
On March 26 2014 22:28 killerdog wrote:
CJ frost invade and kill ozone's jungler at his blue, and doa and montechristo just spent like 90 seconds talking about how level 1's are now totally coinflippy, and how bad that is for the game.

its fucking true, its so frustrating to go to ur 2nd buff just to see it stolen and u can do nothing about it because you know its soloQ and nobody wards for you
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
March 26 2014 13:56 GMT
#1720
coinflippy level 1s in competitive play due to current vision design is not the same thing as go to ur 2nd buff just to see it stolen and u can do nothing about it because you know its soloQ and nobody wards for you
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