• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:21
CEST 13:21
KST 20:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed17Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
Who will win EWC 2025? Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL Soulkey Muta Micro Map? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational 2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 670 users

[Patch 4.4] CUDDLY INCOMING! ヽ(*・ω・)ノ - Page 41

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 39 40 41 42 43 158 Next
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#801
MF's Q damage being moved from base to more AD scaling means that it's better to leave it at rank 1 and max W or E first instead?
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:25 GMT
#802
E max is pretty awful on MF, but I didint read the new notes did they change her E? if not never max it
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#803
the only time you E max on mf is in 1v1 tourneys for the nice harass/wave clear lol
I come in for the scraps
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#804
Jack "Regularly plays most of the 5 important champs in the game" Ho will show us the light.
God Bless
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#805
Does Renek poop on Yorick?
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:34:37
March 21 2014 01:30 GMT
#806
On March 21 2014 10:25 Yezzus wrote:
E max is pretty awful on MF, but I didint read the new notes did they change her E? if not never max it


E is changed least out of the three. Just longer duration and higher % slow.

Lower CD, and longer duration. Q got changed so that most of its damage comes from scaling but also has its CD and mana cost reduced. W pretty much got the same treatment but now scales with AD instead of AP.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:39:45
March 21 2014 01:36 GMT
#807
hmmm this seems pretty good for MF, her ult is really amazing I think she might see a comeback. that MF/Wu ult combo tho

The no escape Ads getting some buffs finally
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:42 GMT
#808
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:44:10
March 21 2014 01:44 GMT
#809
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
March 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#810
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?

Ultbot yo, who needs auto attacks?
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#811
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?


Ok. 2 BT + LW + Cleaver + IE. Fuck boots, I'm building a Zephyr.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:47 GMT
#812
BT BC LW IE boots r good for her
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 21 2014 01:48 GMT
#813
On March 21 2014 10:46 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?


Ok. 2 BT + LW + Cleaver + IE. Fuck boots, I'm building a Zephyr.

No LW, and get BotRK instead, and Genja would be proud.

Man, you know your team blows when you let NoName go 7-0-1 by 12 minutes . Looks like LMQ put on their try hard pants again.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:49 GMT
#814
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:50:49
March 21 2014 01:50 GMT
#815
On March 21 2014 10:49 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.

If you're purely teamfighting rushing BC+BT is alright, but by the time you reach late game, AS/Crit scaling is too important to give up, for better ulti. By that time it's better to transition to IE/PD afterwords.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:54 GMT
#816
On March 21 2014 10:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:49 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.

If you're purely teamfighting rushing BC+BT is alright, but by the time you reach late game, AS/Crit scaling is too important to give up, for better ulti. By that time it's better to transition to IE/PD afterwords.


In other words, don't play MF. Play Twitch. No one is better at utilizing AS/Crit scaling than him.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 02:02 GMT
#817
Morgana and Sivir vs. Annie isn't as great as most people think. Annie can just build to 3 stacks and bait the shield. Split up the high damage spell and stun so that Morg can only shield one of them. Her range also makes her better at harassment than Morg.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
NightElf
Profile Joined July 2012
Bangladesh117 Posts
March 21 2014 02:21 GMT
#818
The league of 10 carries will soon be upon us...Brace yourself..Now that all the hard cc early game junglers will be gone we can see the rise of melee carry..
None excites me more than jaedong...
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 21 2014 02:26 GMT
#819
On March 21 2014 09:32 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 09:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 09:20 Alaric wrote:
So somebody just dashed right through my Vi Q using Thresh lantern and... took no damage. Ignored the spell entirely.
Not sure if I should blame Lantern broken or Vi's Q bugged.

I don't think you can disrupt lantern pull?

Madlife cancelled lantern with lulu's ult. Besides that I've never seen a lantern be interrupted.

Pls
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 02:27 GMT
#820
What happens to the lantern? Does the chain get cut and Thresh lose all his stacks?
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Prev 1 39 40 41 42 43 158 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #136
CranKy Ducklings82
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 403
Nina 244
StarCraft: Brood War
Barracks 2881
actioN 2287
Larva 1080
Mini 816
Hyuk 701
firebathero 426
Stork 385
Soma 357
Pusan 327
TY 301
[ Show more ]
Last 202
Hyun 147
Backho 88
JulyZerg 67
Free 56
ToSsGirL 56
Sharp 55
Bonyth 51
Dewaltoss 34
zelot 22
GoRush 10
Icarus 9
Sea 0
Dota 2
Gorgc6672
singsing2173
XcaliburYe353
Super Smash Bros
Westballz31
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor147
Other Games
B2W.Neo1004
DeMusliM320
Fuzer 221
Lowko122
SortOf79
Trikslyr24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2685
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 671
UltimateBattle 107
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH238
• sitaska32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2127
League of Legends
• Jankos1326
Upcoming Events
Epic.LAN
39m
CSO Contender
5h 39m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 39m
Online Event
1d 4h
Esports World Cup
2 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Esports World Cup
3 days
Esports World Cup
4 days
Esports World Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

BSL 2v2 Season 3
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
Championship of Russia 2025
Underdog Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.