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AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:19 GMT
#801
MF's Q damage being moved from base to more AD scaling means that it's better to leave it at rank 1 and max W or E first instead?
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:25 GMT
#802
E max is pretty awful on MF, but I didint read the new notes did they change her E? if not never max it
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#803
the only time you E max on mf is in 1v1 tourneys for the nice harass/wave clear lol
I come in for the scraps
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#804
Jack "Regularly plays most of the 5 important champs in the game" Ho will show us the light.
God Bless
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:27 GMT
#805
Does Renek poop on Yorick?
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:34:37
March 21 2014 01:30 GMT
#806
On March 21 2014 10:25 Yezzus wrote:
E max is pretty awful on MF, but I didint read the new notes did they change her E? if not never max it


E is changed least out of the three. Just longer duration and higher % slow.

Lower CD, and longer duration. Q got changed so that most of its damage comes from scaling but also has its CD and mana cost reduced. W pretty much got the same treatment but now scales with AD instead of AP.
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Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:39:45
March 21 2014 01:36 GMT
#807
hmmm this seems pretty good for MF, her ult is really amazing I think she might see a comeback. that MF/Wu ult combo tho

The no escape Ads getting some buffs finally
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:42 GMT
#808
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:44:10
March 21 2014 01:44 GMT
#809
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
March 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#810
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?

Ultbot yo, who needs auto attacks?
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:46 GMT
#811
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?


Ok. 2 BT + LW + Cleaver + IE. Fuck boots, I'm building a Zephyr.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
March 21 2014 01:47 GMT
#812
BT BC LW IE boots r good for her
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 21 2014 01:48 GMT
#813
On March 21 2014 10:46 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:44 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 10:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She will have an on-hit + steroid that scales off AD. I'm going to just build 3 BT + LW + Cleaver.

and completely avoid the 250% scaling of crit, and AS multiplier?


Ok. 2 BT + LW + Cleaver + IE. Fuck boots, I'm building a Zephyr.

No LW, and get BotRK instead, and Genja would be proud.

Man, you know your team blows when you let NoName go 7-0-1 by 12 minutes . Looks like LMQ put on their try hard pants again.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:49 GMT
#814
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 01:50:49
March 21 2014 01:50 GMT
#815
On March 21 2014 10:49 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.

If you're purely teamfighting rushing BC+BT is alright, but by the time you reach late game, AS/Crit scaling is too important to give up, for better ulti. By that time it's better to transition to IE/PD afterwords.
liftlift > tsm
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 01:54 GMT
#816
On March 21 2014 10:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 10:49 AsianEcksDragon wrote:
She's not autoattacking when she's ulting so there actually are some wasted value if you build crit. BC and BT have always been better for her because it boost her ult, and other abilities but also her autos.

If you're purely teamfighting rushing BC+BT is alright, but by the time you reach late game, AS/Crit scaling is too important to give up, for better ulti. By that time it's better to transition to IE/PD afterwords.


In other words, don't play MF. Play Twitch. No one is better at utilizing AS/Crit scaling than him.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 02:02 GMT
#817
Morgana and Sivir vs. Annie isn't as great as most people think. Annie can just build to 3 stacks and bait the shield. Split up the high damage spell and stun so that Morg can only shield one of them. Her range also makes her better at harassment than Morg.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
NightElf
Profile Joined July 2012
Bangladesh117 Posts
March 21 2014 02:21 GMT
#818
The league of 10 carries will soon be upon us...Brace yourself..Now that all the hard cc early game junglers will be gone we can see the rise of melee carry..
None excites me more than jaedong...
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 21 2014 02:26 GMT
#819
On March 21 2014 09:32 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 09:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 21 2014 09:20 Alaric wrote:
So somebody just dashed right through my Vi Q using Thresh lantern and... took no damage. Ignored the spell entirely.
Not sure if I should blame Lantern broken or Vi's Q bugged.

I don't think you can disrupt lantern pull?

Madlife cancelled lantern with lulu's ult. Besides that I've never seen a lantern be interrupted.

Pls
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
March 21 2014 02:27 GMT
#820
What happens to the lantern? Does the chain get cut and Thresh lose all his stacks?
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