[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 87

On February 20 2014 18:50 Slayer91 wrote:
what makes you think that you aren't outplaying your enemies if you suddenly hit a wall where you can't win at a certain elo level?

support kennen has a good set of tools outside laning phase too. Literally every champ has a good set of tools.
nunu provides attack speed and movement speed. Any support can provide vision just by warding. nunu isn't even played despite having good cc and good team buffs because super buffing an adc isnt that important compared to having threats to zone them atm

On February 20 2014 18:59 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Seriously, can we get a ban on him/her? It's obviously a troll. 0 Warwick games in s4 on his/her account, advocating support ww and claiming it works up until d1, telling people "nobody has added me" like it's our duty to disprove that it works when it's clearly the worst thing you could do in bot lane period.

On February 20 2014 19:08 Sarah Bryant wrote:



Uh.
1.i dont advocate it, you people just return to it every page saying it's bad without testing/caring to read what i say, so i just say my opinion, if you ignore it, it will just die, i don't feel the need to be informative about it again unless someone asks.

2. Anyone who want to see it in action can add me and record those games. You could have a nice "OH LOL TOLD YA" after, but i don't say shit i haven't tested myself and can't back up in game. Again, you can let it just die and it won't be mentioned again, but if you indeed want to check its legit, that's the way[or god forbid actually try it yourself]

On February 20 2014 18:58 Sarah Bryant wrote:


You are outplaying and you need to play good, but it's not hardcore. As i said it can work great even in diamond, that wall where you hit your head on is very, very high and most people who aren't at that level can use it, make it work, and enjoy it, it's fun idea to begin with.


Now yea, nunu isn't played, but nunu is legit , right?. He got good tools at his disposal. i feel ww is in the same place[although i'd have nunu for my tryhard team before i pick warwick for that team],he got nice tools, but again he's not worth having over top suppors.

On February 20 2014 19:09 Omnishroud wrote:
Wont hexakill just essentially add a support to top/mid. I can see the 6th just roaming to whatever lane needs it and ganking though, maybe some sort of pseudo support with teleport / globals like panth / TF for the ganks.

Sounds like it could be fun at least.

Also what happens if you get hit by a "boomerang" skillshot and flash into it again before it starts returning? Like sivirs Q or dravens R. Do you get hit once, twice and then again when it returns through you?

On February 20 2014 19:13 Slayer91 wrote:


distinction between playing well and "hardcore outplaying" is mostly subjective and champion specific. Lee sin can "outplay hardcore" udyr can "play good" its simply nature of skillshots to make flashy plays and shake can make 20 videos about his lee sin play but you don't see people making garen highlights. this doesn't mean you can play better than a lee sin with garen despite him making flashy plays and you just playing solid you can still be outplaying him.

If you are playing below your skill level and using that to justify a champion being good you are very deluded. Literally any champ support can probably work if you are dedicated enough to the idea that you make a guide about it or at the very least 50% of champions. (like any champ this isn't hyper farm dependent, so it maybe rules out a little bit stuff like support vlad support jinx and shit)
I can play taric at d1 and do ok, so why can't you play warwick if its legit. I'm sure most people think nunu is a bad champion, it feels like you definition of "legit" is pretty vague and it seems to me mostly an attitude thing and not a champion "viability thing"

also you say you want to prove that support ww is legit but you refuse to show any stats or play with anyone giving convenient excuses (have NA account but dont want to reveal, have EU account but don't want to play with anyone D1 when nobody below D1 from EU has argued yet)

you could technically have made everything up and have never played support warwick and we wouldn't be able to tell the difference which is why people accuse you of being a troll.

On February 20 2014 19:32 Gahlo wrote:

Can't learn from no tl;dr.

On February 20 2014 19:38 Alaric wrote:

I do it sometimes in the off-topic thread! Clearly that makes it better than this one.